PATRIOTS TRAINING CAMP 2026 Patriots Training Camp Day 4

[Rob0729]

fwiw, Boutte is younger than Chism by 7 months
it is not too far fetched to envision WR 1/2 in 2028 are Boutte/Doubs

I tend to doubt it, but it could happen. I still think there is still a chance Boutte is traded. I still think it is decent enough of a chance.

My guess is even if Boutte stays, either AJ Brown or another true #1 WR (either drafted, signed in free agency, or traded for) will be on this team in 2028. I don't think Boutte is a #1 WR.

 

[Water Boy]

Reports out of camp are that Boutte is looking even better than last year and Brown and Doubs have yet to find the real rhythm and chemistry with Maye.

Pop is looking pretty good too and I think it's clear that it takes time for the WR/QB chemistry to develop in this offense.

Its one thing to know the play book and understand the option routes, its another to learn to be exactly where the QB anticipates with the right body position and leverage.

Going into the season many, myself included, appreciated Boutte but felt that Doubs and AJB are upgrades at the position and that Boutte isn't much of a separator and was benefiting from Maye's insane deep ball accuracy. I think this camp is proving that, while not a separator, Boutte knows exactly how to position himself in a way that Maye likes and can predict, thereby enabling Maye's deep ball game. He's a big part of the equation.

Hopefully our new receivers can build that rapor with Maye as well, and if they do, we can be right back to who is the odd man out debate...but it might take time.

 

[Wozzy]

Well, if you're going to compare him to Mahomes...how can I possibly top that?

You asked about his body type, his size.

It's disingenuous of you to suggest I said he was like Mahomes in any other regard... because I didn't.

 

[Family]

There are dozens of other guys on the Patriots who put the team firs just like Bouttet. The fact that he is out there and practicing and working hard while under contract should be expected, not hailed as something special. If he held out or held in, he would be definitely wrong. But he is doing what every other player under contract is doing in camp when it comes being a team player and effort.

I don't hate the guy. I would be happy if he is on the team this season. If they don't trade him, I will be rooting for him to have a 1,000 yard plus season and gets paid whether it is with the Pats or someone else next year.

But I am not going to give him flowers for doing what is expected of him in training camp. His attitude doesn't make the team any better than Romeo Dobbs showing up, work hard, and being there for his teammate or any other player.

And four days hasn't changed anything. They are giving him a lot of reps most likely for one of two reasons either to see how they can work a system with Brown, Boutte, and Dobbs getting their share of playing time or they are showcasing Boutte to help him get another team to trade for him. Both will be an ongoing thing that will evolve over training camp and the preseason and will not be decided in four days.

Nice speech grandpa.

It's not the way things always are.

 

[Clonamery]

You asked about his body type, his size.

It's disingenuous of you to suggest I said he was like Mahomes in any other regard... because I didn't.

Coincidentally how far did Patrick Mahomes at the same exact school go in the playoffs? He went 7-6 and 5-7 his last two years.

Looking for the part about body type here. I'll just pretend you don't know the definition of disingenuous Vizzini.

 

[Wozzy]

Coincidentally how far did Patrick Mahomes at the same exact school go in the playoffs? He went 7-6 and 5-7 his last two years.

Looking for the part about body type here. I'll just pretend you don't know the definition of disingenuous Vizzini.

When you question his body size, then suggest he was responsible for Texas Tech’s failure in the playoffs this answers itself.

When has Texas Tech ever been relevant in the college postseason… never.

Also why did you fail to mention how I said he also has the same body type as Aaron Rogers? Oh yeah, because Rogers is on the back 9 and not what he used to be. Mahomes still has it.

I didn’t say similar player, I said similar size.

I said this to both players when you questioned whether Behren has NFL size. He clearly does.

 

[Clonamery]

When you question his body size, then suggest he was responsible for Texas Tech’s failure in the playoffs this answers itself.

When has Texas Tech ever been relevant in the college postseason… never.

Also why did you fail to mention how I said he also has the same body type as Aaron Rogers? Oh yeah, because Rogers is on the back 9 and not what he used to be. Mahomes still has it.

I didn’t say similar player, I said similar size.

I said this to both players when you questioned whether Behren has NFL size. He clearly does.

Ok, Andy.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

Reports out of camp are that Boutte is looking even better than last year and Brown and Doubs have yet to find the real rhythm and chemistry with Maye.

Today anyway, it seems that Brown was beat by Gonzales on one rep for a pass breakup, then after that he caught EVERYTHING thrown his way. Several reporters said that he looked awesome.

 

[Rob0729]

Nice speech grandpa.

It's not the way things always are.

You want to know what most likely the way things are. The fact is the Patriots has been dangling Boutte for a fifth or sixth rounder for months with no takers. Boutte is in a contract year. It is in his best interest to come to camp and shine and be a team player. If no team is willing to trade for him for a late round pick and the Pats are willing to let him go for that amount, what would sitting out do for his trade value and contract value?

My guess is that if Boutte was a 1200 yard receiver in the last year of his deal and the Patriots didn't appear to want to pay him, his approach to training camp including reporting might be completely different than it is now.

Boutte needs to show the Pats or a potential other team that he is worthy of a big deal and that means he has to show he is a hard worker. Christian Gonzalez could sit out if he chose to and it wouldn't hurt his contract value. Boutte cannot. That is the way things always are with players who are not highly coveted by their own team or another team.

 

[n1997y]

Today anyway, it seems that Brown was beat by Gonzales on one rep for a pass breakup, then after that he caught EVERYTHING thrown his way. Several reporters said that he looked awesome.

Yeah. IIRC they didn’t match him up with Gonzo after the first PBU. Gotta give Maye a chance!

 

[Family]

You want to know what most likely the way things are. The fact is the Patriots has been dangling Boutte for a fifth or sixth rounder for months with no takers. Boutte is in a contract year. It is in his best interest to come to camp and shine and be a team player. If no team is willing to trade for him for a late round pick and the Pats are willing to let him go for that amount, what would sitting out do for his trade value and contract value?

My guess is that if Boutte was a 1200 yard receiver in the last year of his deal and the Patriots didn't appear to want to pay him, his approach to training camp including reporting might be completely different than it is now.

Boutte needs to show the Pats or a potential other team that he is worthy of a big deal and that means he has to show he is a hard worker. Christian Gonzalez could sit out if he chose to and it wouldn't hurt his contract value. Boutte cannot. That is the way things always are with players who are not highly coveted by their own team or another team.

I suspect they are still going to trade him. It's a complete logjam at the position. And two weeks from now these four days will seem like ancient history.

But Boutte's motivation doesn't matter. He's grown up and has good habits.

They should keep him IMO unless a player comes back in a similar situation.

 

[captain stone]

depends on what you want your back up to do.
if you want the back up to support the starter, and help be his eyes on the field, as well as be able to come into a game and manage the offense, Hoyer was head and shoulders above Devito imo.

Yep, especially during his first two tours here, during the Brady years.

 

[captain stone]

I have to admit I didn’t see him play with the Giants, I’m curious to see more of him in preseason.

In general, I think of three kinds of backups: the raw young unknown with potential, the savvy career backup who’s been called in to action enough to stay calm when it happens, and the semi-washed old veteran starter who may or may not be bitter about the younger guy playing ahead of him. I tend to like the middle type, with Brian Hoyer the prototype. I’m hoping Devito fits that mold.

The fact is, though, there aren’t even enough real NFL QBs to fill out the starting jobs. According to this ranking, there are 8 worse than Geno Smith: https://nflrankings.theringer.com/qb-rankings

I stopped reading after #1.

 

[captain stone]

Agreed prunty.. I believe He and Dial are the back ups or will end up being the depth behind the starters.. Don't see any facilitation with Charlie lost in the Woods...

Charlie's been a Pet of theirs from Stretch's days with the LARs; so his job might actually be safe... And remember, we all know how much value Mikey places on Loyalty; just ask him.

 

[Keyser Söze]

People are putting way too much of what happens in training camp. Hell,they haven’t even had a full pads practice yet. Yes, Boutte has looked really good and AJ Brown can’t get on the same page with Drake Maye yet. It really means very little at this point.

I remember discussions about cutting Randy Moss in 2007 when he had a bad camp before getting injured. And I can kill Ian in badwidth fees with all the players who looked like superstars in camp and preseason who did nothing in the regular season and many not even making the roster.

It is a positive that Boutte looks so good so far, but pump the breaks.

I saw that Felger and Mazz did a segment on whether we should be concerned about AJ Brown since he can’t get on the same page with Maye. My response is why are you wasting our time with such a ridiculous segment? I am not the slightest bit concerned in the first week of camp.

Felger and Mazz were obviously trolling with that….pretty on the nose actually.

 

[Wozzy]

Ok, Andy.

Don’t know Andy.

 

[Clonamery]

When you question his body size, then suggest he was responsible for Texas Tech’s failure in the playoffs this answers itself.

When has Texas Tech ever been relevant in the college postseason… never.

Also why did you fail to mention how I said he also has the same body type as Aaron Rogers? Oh yeah, because Rogers is on the back 9 and not what he used to be. Mahomes still has it.

I didn’t say similar player, I said similar size.

I said this to both players when you questioned whether Behren has NFL size. He clearly does.

I didn't question your defense of his size. He's avg size for today's QB. You brought up Mahomes in separate post.

 

[Clonamery]

Don’t know Andy.

Or yourself.

 

[Wozzy]

I didn't question your defense of his size. He's avg size for today's QB. You brought up Mahomes in separate post.

And Aaron Rogers, as comparisons on size.

 

[Wozzy]

Or yourself.

Know myself well.