PATRIOTS TRAINING CAMP 2026 Patriots Training Camp Day 4

[Wozzy]

It was.
Remember you said him being gone was "a done deal". Pure speculation.
I don't care what Breer and Reiss said, just because they have access doesn't mean they know what is really going on.

As I said it’s all speculation.
And all fake news.

This will age poorly.

 

[Wozzy]

Prunty's making the team if for no other reason than his draft status. I wouldn't give you even a conditional 7th-round draft pick, in 2029, for the rest of them, however, including the backup Safeties.

They cut a 5th rounder last year in Swinson, draft status wasn't important then.

They have Vildor, Prunty and some talented UDFA CB's in camp, the room will be better than last year.

 

[Wozzy]

He's the best backup here since Jimmy G. And it's really not close.

That dude won games with an absolute dogshit Giants team. Hes not perfect. That's why he's a backup and not the Jets starter or something.

Agree here, he's a pretty good backup.

The only reason I think he might be challenged is because I am pretty high on Behren Morton as a backup.

 

[rkarp1]

depends on what you want your back up to do.
if you want the back up to support the starter, and help be his eyes on the field, as well as be able to come into a game and manage the offense, Hoyer was head and shoulders above Devito imo.

 

[rkarp1]

Agree here, he's a pretty good backup.

The only reason I think he might be challenged is because I am pretty high on Behren Morton as a backup.

I agree with you on Morton

 

[Clonamery]

Agree here, he's a pretty good backup.

The only reason I think he might be challenged is because I am pretty high on Behren Morton as a backup.

Why?

 

[Wozzy]

Why?

I liked him as a prospect.

He has good NFL size, played injured his final year of college but still drove the ball downfield and showed accuracy.

He might be a diamond in the rough.

 

[Clonamery]

I liked him as a prospect.

He has good NFL QB size, played injured his final year of college but still drove the ball downfield and showed accuracy.

He might be a diamond in the rough.

OK. But he's 6' 2".

I see him as a tougher Zappe.
Serial poor decision maker.
Main reason TX Tech lost in playoffs.
Likely ceiling: Scout team punching bag.

 

[patchick]

So how do we feel about Tommy Buckets as #2? Not feeling the warm & fuzzies about it so far...

I have to admit I didn’t see him play with the Giants, I’m curious to see more of him in preseason.

In general, I think of three kinds of backups: the raw young unknown with potential, the savvy career backup who’s been called in to action enough to stay calm when it happens, and the semi-washed old veteran starter who may or may not be bitter about the younger guy playing ahead of him. I tend to like the middle type, with Brian Hoyer the prototype. I’m hoping Devito fits that mold.

The fact is, though, there aren’t even enough real NFL QBs to fill out the starting jobs. According to this ranking, there are 8 worse than Geno Smith: https://nflrankings.theringer.com/qb-rankings

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

This will age poorly.

For you?
He may well be traded.
You stating it was a done deal weeks ago was incredibly premature. If it was done deal he would’ve been gone by now.
I never argued he wouldn’t be traded (although I think it would be a mistake for 2026). My argument was it was far from a “done deal”, which it was, and still is today.

 

[Rob0729]

It's not like we're talking about a sixth round pick looking good. Boutte is an NFL player, and at the point of his career where WRs often come into their own.

Nobody's saying this is a breakout year yet or that it can't turn around resulting in a trade or demotion.

But from where he was a month ago it's a legitimate development so far.

At this point, we don't know if Boutte is any better than he was last year or any worse. That is my point. He is having a very good camp which really doesn't mean much in evaluation at least to the fan base who aren't there daily and analyzing him know on what things he needed to improve on.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

At this point, we don't know if Boutte is any better than he was last year or any worse. That is my point. He is having a very good camp which really doesn't mean much in evaluation at least to the fan base who aren't there daily and analyzing him know on what things he needed to improve on.

It would appear he’s doing the same things he did in camp last year, and in the season.
Only thing we can really conclude is he’s the same guy, which is a capable NFL WR. At worst a very good #3, and at best potentially a very good #2.
I think it would be a mistake to trade him assuming it’s a 5th, or at best a 4th.
He’s more valuable on the field than what I expect the return in a trade would be.
Despite what some have suggested (u know who you are), he has not been a distraction. He’s a professional.

 

[Wozzy]

OK. But he's 6' 2".

I see him as a tougher Zappe.
Serial poor decision maker.
Main reason TX Tech lost in playoffs.
Likely ceiling: Scout team punching bag.

Morton is 6’2” 220 or roughly the same size as Aaron Rogers or Patrick Mahomes… like I said, good NFL size.

He was tied for first in the Big12 in yards per… he throws downfield.

Coincidentally how far did Patrick Mahomes at the same exact school go in the playoffs? He went 7-6 and 5-7 his last two years.

Playoff success is a team stat, not a QB stat. Also like I said already, Morton showed toughness playing through injury. Morton in the 7th round was a solid pick.

 

[Rob0729]

It would appear he’s doing the same things he did in camp last year, and in the season.
Only thing we can really conclude is he’s the same guy, which is a capable NFL WR. At worst a very good #3, and at best potentially a very good #2.
I think it would be a mistake to trade him assuming it’s a 5th, or at best a 4th.
He’s more valuable on the field than what I expect the return in a trade would be.
Despite what some have suggested (u know who you are), he has not been a distraction. He’s a professional.

I will applaud Boutte for growing up. His rookie year, he was a problem and a distraction. He appears to have grown out of it. Or maybe he just responds better a players’ coach like Vrabel than a disciplinarian like Belichick or whatever Mayo was.

I agree he is a #2 or #3 WR. It isn’t whether he is good enough to keep. It is whether there is a big enough role for him and whether he will continue to be a team player in that role.

 

[Clonamery]

Morton is 6’2” 220 or roughly the same size as Aaron Rogers or Patrick Mahomes… like I said, good NFL size.

He was tied for first in the Big12 in yards per… he throws downfield.

Coincidentally how far did Patrick Mahomes at the same exact school go in the playoffs? He went 7-6 and 5-7 his last two years.

Playoff success is a team stat, not a QB stat. Also like I said already, Morton showed toughness playing through injury. Morton in the 7th round was a solid pick.

Well, if you're going to compare him to Mahomes...how can I possibly top that?

 

[rkarp1]

I will applaud Boutte for growing up. His rookie year, he was a problem and a distraction. He appears to have grown out of it. Or maybe he just responds better a players’ coach like Vrabel than a disciplinarian like Belichick or whatever Mayo was.

I agree he is a #2 or #3 WR. It isn’t whether he is good enough to keep. It is whether there is a big enough role for him and whether he will continue to be a team player in that role.

fwiw, Boutte is younger than Chism by 7 months
it is not too far fetched to envision WR 1/2 in 2028 are Boutte/Doubs

 

[n1997y]

depends on what you want your back up to do.
if you want the back up to support the starter, and help be his eyes on the field, as well as be able to come into a game and manage the offense, Hoyer was head and shoulders above Devito imo.

Hoyer was in an elite class for a backup QB.

I don’t see Tommy Cutlets following that model though. He came into the league as UDFA, stuck as the third string QB, and in the middle of his second season he was promoted as starter. In the NYC market. Of course he’s a gunslinger, has to be to do that in that market. But he was a flash in the pan, now he’s in his second year here as backup. Questions I have are, does he have the talent to be a starter somewhere, and can he harness it?

If he does we will see him go elsewhere next year to compete for a starting role when his rookie contract expires, and we will likely see that even if he’s destined to end up as a career backup. So drafting Morton to develop for a year as his replacement is a very smart move.

 

[Family]

At this point, we don't know if Boutte is any better than he was last year or any worse. That is my point. He is having a very good camp which really doesn't mean much in evaluation at least to the fan base who aren't there daily and analyzing him know on what things he needed to improve on.

He could have gone a different route, but Boutte's putting himself out there as a team first guy, and what he's been bringing is the type of thing we need this season.

His behavior makes him a better player for the team. This is leadership stuff that they had with Diggs, even if his numbers are still no better. Gonzo and Boutte are building a culture for Vrabel teams.

Sorry you only see better or worse in this way.

That's why only 4 days changes whether they should trade him or not.

 

[Real fan 02]

Prunty's making the team if for no other reason than his draft status. I wouldn't give you even a conditional 7th-round draft pick, in 2029, for the rest of them, however, including the backup Safeties.

Agreed prunty.. I believe He and Dial are the back ups or will end up being the depth behind the starters.. Don't see any facilitation with Charlie lost in the Woods...

 

[Rob0729]

He could have gone a different route, but Boutte's putting himself out there as a team first guy, and what he's been bringing is the type of thing we need this season.

His behavior makes him a better player for the team. This is leadership stuff that they had with Diggs, even if his numbers are still no better. Gonzo and Boutte are building a culture for Vrabel teams.

Sorry you only see better or worse in this way.

That's why only 4 days changes whether they should trade him or not.

There are dozens of other guys on the Patriots who put the team firs just like Bouttet. The fact that he is out there and practicing and working hard while under contract should be expected, not hailed as something special. If he held out or held in, he would be definitely wrong. But he is doing what every other player under contract is doing in camp when it comes being a team player and effort.

I don't hate the guy. I would be happy if he is on the team this season. If they don't trade him, I will be rooting for him to have a 1,000 yard plus season and gets paid whether it is with the Pats or someone else next year.

But I am not going to give him flowers for doing what is expected of him in training camp. His attitude doesn't make the team any better than Romeo Dobbs showing up, work hard, and being there for his teammate or any other player.

And four days hasn't changed anything. They are giving him a lot of reps most likely for one of two reasons either to see how they can work a system with Brown, Boutte, and Dobbs getting their share of playing time or they are showcasing Boutte to help him get another team to trade for him. Both will be an ongoing thing that will evolve over training camp and the preseason and will not be decided in four days.