PostGame Thread 2024 OFFICIAL POSTGAME: Pats lose to the Jags 32-16, fall to 1-6

[archstanton543]

Offensive coordinator?

Defensive coordinator?

 

[upstater1]

So if Daboll gets fired, I think that we should pursue him if Mayo is let go. Thoughts on Daboll as a HC target here?
My #1 choice is Flo, but I am not sure He leaves the Vikings.

For an HC position? He would definitely leave. Let him hire Daboll as an OC.

 

[PaulThePat]

Defensive coordinator?

Yes, we need one of those too.

 

[upstater1]

ok, ill go with the OT, the wr is a shiny object if the qb doesn't have to to throw to him

The QB had plenty of time to throw today with the backup to the backup at tackle.

I do agree we need a LT but at this point, we need a top WR even more.

 

[dliverey44]

I know that a lot of Pats fans are clamoring for the next coach to be offensive-minded and in principle, I would be fine with that, but I'm not interested in taking a chance on another first time head coach who is learning on the fly. I want someone who has proven that he can run a successful program in the NFL. Vrabel always seemed to get the most out of the talent in Tenn and Allen's career took off under Daboll. The established offensive head coaches aren’t going anywhere.

It doesn’t matter anyway because the Krafts won’t be willing to admit their mistake with Mayo and they are also too cheap to pay Mayo and his staff to not coach for them and also pay what it would take to convince a top HC/OC combo to come to Foxboro.

Agree that RK will not admit a mistake after 1 year. I would like to say that Mayo will get better but I think he is going to lose the players. Once he loses the players he won't get them back.

I bought the Patriots staff coaching football for dummies books, but not sure if I should wrap them individually and send them to Gillette or send them in bulk.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

This HC and GM are getting 2 years

Then this team will lose two years of Drake Maye then! This team is going nowhere with Mayo at the helm! Mayo is like the Zack Wilson of HC

 

[Triumph]

Sure but it's a dumpster fire right now. I don't think he saw that coming. Lose to Jax in London in the manner they did? That isn't what he expected. Plus all the other BS, like Barmore etc and it all gets to be too much.

After all the praise Kraft heaped on Mayo as the next guy?

No way. Wolf and Groh will get the axe before Mayo. That's the beauty of the HC separate from personnel and cap decisions.

 

[dliverey44]

For an HC position? He would definitely leave. Let him hire Daboll as an OC.

I don't know if you can just assume they would leave for a HC chance. Was it Johnson and Slowik that declined HC interviews last year?

 

[Force Zero Boomer]

Kraft isn't selling. Frankly, the league has revenue sharing, so there is a floor to how far an owner can fall. It takes years of losing for major metrics to go down. It takes one good season to get everyone back. There's no danger there.

My theory of the situation:

For Kraft, the most important consideration is his pride. Will he will keep the Kraft brand as the face of a perennially losing franchise, after attaining such heights with Belichick and Brady? With every losing year that passes, the notion that Kraft might have not been so important to the dynasty after all seems more and more plausible. He and Jonathan may flail around for a few years longer, who knows? Maybe another lost year with Mayo with be enough. Maybe Bob passes the torch (one way or the other) and Jonathan is free to clean house.

Kraft's name is on some of the most popular products in America (EDIT: yes, I know this isn't true). He doesn't want that brand associated with a joke franchise, especially when he's responsible for the dysfunction. If it doesn't get turned around and headed in the right direction soon, the Krafts sell.

 

[Triumph]

Do you miss BB yet?

Steve Belichick?

 

[denverpatsfan]

The 1990s ****ty Pats teams played harder than this 2024 version does. Is that talent or coaching?
Find me another win on the schedule.
Rams game??

 

[Love The Drake]

After all the praise Kraft heaped on Mayo as the next guy?

No way. Wolf and Groh will get the axe before Mayo. That's the beauty of the HC separate from personnel and cap decisions.

Trying to understand this paragraph, are you saying your thought is Mayo will be fired prior to Wolf? Or your thought is Wolf would be fired prior to Mayo?
Cause we can say talent isn’t a full cubboard but this losing streak seems to be coaching to me.

 

[ViperGTS]

My theory of the situation:

For Kraft, the most important consideration is his pride. Will he will keep the Kraft brand as the face of a perennially losing franchise, after attaining such heights with Belichick and Brady? With every losing year that passes, the notion that Kraft might have not been so important to the dynasty after all seems more and more plausible. He and Jonathan may flail around for a few years longer, who knows? Maybe another lost year with Mayo with be enough. Maybe Bob passes the torch (one way or the other) and Jonathan is free to clean house.

Kraft's name is on some of the most popular products in America. He doesn't want that brand associated with a joke franchise, especially when he's responsible for the dysfunction. If it doesn't get it turned around and headed in the right direction soon, the Krafts sell.

Kraft doesn't have anything to do with Kraft foods or so I thought.

Still your point stands and makes complete sense.

 

[Ring 6]

Says the second biggest clown here after Wozzy. ELL! OH! ELL!

See here is the thing. When I read your posts I would hope you gave a bad opinion of be, because that must mean I am right.
Hence my comment. Your post was easily the dumbest of the day.

 

[Lavictoire]

Glad the Jags were classy enough not to rub it in by putting Mac Jones in under two minutes after the Pats turned it over on downs.

 

[Love The Drake]

My concern with Covington taking over the D was mental errors and mistakes in critical moments.

I didn’t expect to see a soft defense that gets bullied around on a consistent basis.

 

[Ring 6]

The QB had plenty of time to throw today with the backup to the backup at tackle.

I do agree we need a LT but at this point, we need a top WR even more.

He had a lot of pressure but did well moving away from it and buying time but he didn’t have many instances where he had all the time he needed.

 

[ViperGTS]

Finally for the Mac Maye sucks crowd, he was much better this week. Way more efficient with his passing, balls that came out on time and on target with few exceptions. Yes he had 1 close interception throw but that was it. The other 2 possibles interception was a bad read from Hooper, and the last doesn't count because Hail Mary type plays are just that.

Maye progressed immensely this week, ran more no huddle, so take your anti-Maye sentiments and shove them where the sun doesn't shine. Not saying he isn't going to deserve criticism but this is not the week for those takes

 

[TomPatriot]

On a positive note I thought C Ben Brown played pretty well today. Not perfect but I’d give him a B+.

 

[mike_usagisan]

He did a decent job and his highlight was stifling the red hot 2019 Ravens who looked like they couldn't be stopped. That was a great game plan. Brian Flores also had a great game plan making Jackson look like a back up QB a few years ago.

When Mayo is canned, Bob really has to clean house and leave no ties to BB even though Vrabel didn't coach under him. They need a hard reset.

Our D is built for a BB guy. But I like the idea of getting a HC who is an innovative offensive guy.