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What to do with Isaiah Wynn

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It's not your money, it's Bob Kraft's money. The Pats have one of the best offensive lines in the league... who cares?
Agree. Our OL is #1 in getting QB1 & QB2 injured in back 2 back games. Fortunately they both got injured during the preseason, so it doesn't affect our W-L during the regular season.
 
Agree. Our OL is #1 in getting QB1 & QB2 injured in back 2 back games. Fortunately they both got injured during the preseason, so it doesn't affect our W-L during the regular season.
Football players get injured.
 
He is one of those that thinks we owe the team and not the other way around. I will never understand the notion that us Joe Blow's of the world "owe" something to a multibillion dollar corporation because it has provided us entertainment. That is the main function of the NFL; to provide entertainment. They are fighting for our money and owe it to the fans to provide a compelling product.
You don’t know dck about what I believe… owe has nothing to do with anything.
 
I say uhh... (we) win. (see what I did there?)





by getting his replacement asap and scooting him.
 
They really only have Trent, Wynn and Cannon at tackle. Onwenu can play there in a pinch. Wynn has no trade value. Unless they need the cap space for a very good reason, just keep Wynn through the end of the year.
 
Specifically pass pro - When I watch film he's not nearly as balanced on the RT side. Very front loaded. I haven't seen him use independent hands much at all this year which obviously doesn't help in that area. One of our better run blockers but pass pro hasn't been that good compared to years past. He generates everything from the bottom up and used to really flash those hands but not so much recently.

Does switching sides make using independent hands difficult? Is that an instinct that builds the longer you're in a position, therefore switching sides can throw things into a flux?
 
They really only have Trent, Wynn and Cannon at tackle. Onwenu can play there in a pinch. Wynn has no trade value. Unless they need the cap space for a very good reason, just keep Wynn through the end of the year.
Maybe we get a desperate team to overpay for him at tackle.
If we could dump him for a third or higher or a player at linebacker or DT I would.
How many drive killing mental mistakes can we tolerate?
 
Specifically pass pro - When I watch film he's not nearly as balanced on the RT side. Very front loaded. I haven't seen him use independent hands much at all this year which obviously doesn't help in that area. One of our better run blockers but pass pro hasn't been that good compared to years past. He generates everything from the bottom up and used to really flash those hands but not so much recently.
He's lazy lackadaisical and uninspired QB killer keep him Inactive and on the bench.
 
Maybe we get a desperate team to overpay for him at tackle.
If we could dump him for a third or higher or a player at linebacker or DT I would.
How many drive killing mental mistakes can we tolerate?
 
Agree with this. Neither one seemed happy with the switch and I'm sure Patricia's my way or the highway stance didn't help.

Maybe switching them back should be considered. Before you guys think I'm crazy suggesting this, Brown hasn't been the great wall of china at LT either.


Ouch those stats show me we have 3 weak links on offense. The weakest links are both of our current offensive tackles, and our 3rd weakest OL oh yeah it's that 1st round pick we spent on a guard. Hard to overcome that. No wonder Mac got assassinated and injured in back to back games!

As for the reason why the players aren't performing up to standards - it's either on the coaching or the players, whom do you blame? As for our offense this year, I feel you have to lay a huge percentage of the responsibility on the coaches who instituted all these changes - Matt Patricia and Joe Judge.

 
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Agree with this. Neither one seemed happy with the switch and I'm sure Patricia's my way or the highway stance didn't help.

Maybe switching them back should be considered. Before you guys think I'm crazy suggesting this, Brown hasn't been the great wall of china at LT either.

I am going the what have you done for me lately route Trent Brown have played very well he's also playing beside an improving Rookie. Wynn have no excuse on the strong side with Onwenu.
 

Ouch those stats show me we have 3 weak links on offense. The weakest links are both of our current offensive tackles, and our 3rd weakest OL oh yeah it's that 1st round pick we spent on a guard. Hard to overcome that. No wonder Mac got assassinated and injured in back to back games!

As for the reason why the players aren't performing up to standards - it's either on the coaching or the players, whom do you blame? As for our offense this year, I feel you have to lay a huge percentage of the responsibility on the coaches who instituted all these changes - Matt Patricia and Joe Judge.



Ouch those stats show me we have 3 weak links on offense. The weakest links are both of our current offensive tackles, and our 3rd weakest OL oh yeah it's that 1st round pick we spent on a guard. Hard to overcome that. No wonder Mac got assassinated and injured in back to back games!

As for the reason why the players aren't performing up to standards - it's either on the coaching or the players, whom do you blame? As for our offense this year, I feel you have to lay a huge percentage of the responsibility on the coaches who instituted all these changes - Matt Patricia and Joe Judge.

Funny how after Judge left Giants Offense found itself after Patricia left Lions Offense now a fantasy juggernaut.
 
Where did the “lazy” notion cone from? Was it Zolak’s off handed comment. Maybe he just sucks.
 
Where did the “lazy” notion cone from? Was it Zolak’s off handed comment. Maybe he just sucks.
On Draft night didn't like his size for the Tackle Position. He's suppose to be super athletic but we haven't seen much of that only glimpses when healthy did I day when??
 
Where did the “lazy” notion cone from? Was it Zolak’s off handed comment. Maybe he just sucks.
It was brought up last summer and also this summer. The fact that he didn't show up to voluntary OTA's is where I first heard it and then from a few of the beat reporters as well. I'm not sure "lazy" was the exact word, but more like not motivated.
 
Funny how after Judge left Giants Offense found itself after Patricia left Lions Offense now a fantasy juggernaut.
It's quite likely that BB has sabotaged Mac Jones crucial second year by putting those two clowns Joe Judge and Matt Patricia in charge of the Patriots offense. A more sane move would have been to hire a real OC and a QB whisperer that I don't know had an actually good reputation instead of the guy responsible for the 31st ranked Giants offense and almost ruining Daniel Jones.

Joe Judge considering new ways to ruin Daniel Jones article: Joe Judge Considering Creative New Way To Ruin Daniel Jones' Career

The Patriots daily staff meeting featuring Joe Judge and Matt Patricia:

 
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