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Player Signing Patriots Sign OT James Hudson III

patfanken said:
This puts a different light compared to that Dallas clip with all the penalties.
Seems like a serviceable possibility to fight for a back up role in camp. A JAG.

BUT I will remind you that over 90% of rosters are made up of JAGs. To win you need those guys to be capable and consistent.

Hudson was given an opportunity to compete for a role one of 90 competing for 53 spots. Here's hoping he's one of those no name signings, like Tonga and Durden, who end up turning into real contributors come November.
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Well after watching that film I'm not too sure what all the fuss is about. Looks OK to me, but what do I know?
 
Ring 6 said:
I like the attitude. He plays hard. Nothing in those plays says he can’t play.
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If he can get better coaching, great.
 
Looks to be quick afoot. An early signing suggests he might have backup potential. But, now, he’s just 1 of 90.
 
RobertWeathers said:
If he can get better coaching, great.
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Don’t slap guys in the head and remember the snap count isn’t high level ultra skilled coaching. Whether he has talent or not is another question but that clip is pretty meaningless.
 
Seems that Hudson has talent, but lets his emotions overrule his head.

Vrabel might just be the coach who can get through to him.

Vrabel understands players and relates to them very well.

This is the sort of player that I can see Vrabel having success with, but with BB not so much.
 
The Gr8est said:
Seems that Hudson has talent, but lets his emotions overrule his head.

Vrabel might just be the coach who can get through to him.

Vrabel understands players and relates to them very well.
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Got that from 4 plays in one game. Gotcha
 
Hudson doesn’t have “talent,” he’s a stiff.

And not every move this regime makes is genius
or even good. Moreover there’s certainly favoritism or nepotism involved in some moves. “I like the guy” or “I worked with the guy” certainly happens in the NFL.

He was a poor athlete in the testing process, check his combine and pro day results. College players can get by or even excel just being big, the NFL is a different animal altogether.

Just because some outliers succeed without being really athletic, doesn’t mean it’s common or a regular occurrence. A prospect needs athleticism and brains, some have more of one than the other. You need to understand how to play and have the physical abilities to play at the highest level.

If Hudson had that, he would have shown it already. If Chuks Okorafor was going to be good, he would have shown it already. God knows both guys were given every opportunity.

Draft status means zero, absolutely nothing after the draft happens. The NFL is a meritocracy. Draft status may buy you more time, but it won’t make you a better player.

Let’s not go 10 pages trying to polish this turd into a diamond.
 
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Camp body.....and course there will be swings and misses.....wild swings even....just sayin'....
 
Ring 6 said:
Don’t slap guys in the head and remember the snap count isn’t high level ultra skilled coaching. Whether he has talent or not is another question but that clip is pretty meaningless.
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Last year he had 5 penalties in 85 snaps...4 in one game. Hopefully he gets the discipline that works for him here.
 
Ring 6 said:
Don’t slap guys in the head and remember the snap count isn’t high level ultra skilled coaching. Whether he has talent or not is another question but that clip is pretty meaningless.
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Clearly, he was out of his mind because of something during that game. Nobody can be that outrageous without some meaningful event he experienced. Still not to be excused because of impact on his team.
 

When James Hudson learned he needed to switch from defensive tackle to offensive tackle after his first season at Michigan, the first player he thought of was Joe Thomas.

Hudson knew he needed to watch tape from any offensive tackle legend to learn the position. Thomas, the All-Pro and future Hall of Famer from the Cleveland Browns, was the perfect model to watch. So he Googled Thomas' name, clicked on the first YouTube link he saw and started studying.

"Joe Thomas, I look up to him," Hudson said in a video call with local reporters. "When I first got switched from defensive line to offensive line, I went to YouTube, and I typed in Joe Thomas. That was the first thing I did, just to learn some stuff, see how he plays the game and apply what he did to my game."

Now, Hudson will look to continue to blossom at the position with the same team as Thomas.

Hudson, a Toledo native, was drafted by the Browns in the fourth round (110th overall) of the 2021 NFL Draft. He emerged as one of the top tackle prospects of the draft class after becoming a full-time starter with Cincinnati, where he transferred after the 2018 season, and earning First Team All-AAC honors in 2020.

At 6-foot-4 and 313 pounds, Hudson immediately enters the competition as a swing tackle — he practiced both left and right tackle in college — and joins an offensive line that was the top-ranked unit in the NFL in 2020.

"I think we went to bed last night hoping that he would be there at this spot," said Glenn Cook, Browns Vice President of Player Personnel. "Just in terms of speaking to the position, you can never have enough big dudes who can move and can fit in the scheme. Just a really good fit and really good value for where we got him."

Hudson, of course, has plenty of room to develop after spending only three years as a tackle. Before he committed to Michigan, he was a four-star defensive tackle prospect at Central Catholic High School, where he earned First Team All-Conference honors as a junior and the Conference Defensive Player of the Year in his senior season. He received offers from Alabama, Miami and several other prestigious programs before deciding on Michigan.

In Ann Arbor, Hudson's career took a significant but positive change. His potential and chances to see the field would be higher if he transitioned to an offensive tackle, so he made the switch. Then, he transferred to Cincinnati, where he hoped to receive a chance to start in 2020.

The plan worked. And throughout the whole process, Hudson viewed the tape of Thomas.

"He is a very athletic tackle like I am," Hudson said. "He goes all out every time he goes onto the field, and I feel like that relates to me. I just feel like Joe Thomas is the type of guy who I looked up to and I still look up to."

Hudson isn't planning on stopping his review of Thomas' tape anytime soon, of course. Now, he'll likely have an opportunity to talk to Thomas himself and absorb even more technique tips on how to excel at the position.

"I can't wait to hear what he has to say and just learn something from the best," Hudson said. "He is probably one of the best offensive linemen to play the game so I just can't wait to learn and soak up some things from him.
 
Wozzy said:
Hudson doesn’t have “talent,” he’s a stiff.

And not every move this regime makes is genius
or even good. Moreover there’s certainly favoritism or nepotism involved in some moves. “I like the guy” or “I worked with the guy” certainly happens in the NFL.

He was a poor athlete in the testing process, check his combine and pro day results. College players can get by or even excel just being big, the NFL is a different animal altogether.

Just because some outliers succeed without being really athletic, doesn’t mean it’s common or a regular occurrence. A prospect needs athleticism and brains, some have more of one than the other. You need to understand how to play and have the physical abilities to play at the highest level.

If Hudson had that, he would have shown it already. If Chuks Okorafor was going to be good, he would have shown it already. God knows both guys were given every opportunity.

Draft status means zero, absolutely nothing after the draft happens. The NFL is a meritocracy. Draft status may buy you more time, but it won’t make you a better player.

Let’s not go 10 pages trying to polish this turd into a diamond.
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why is Chuks your go to, when you are mostly wrong about him?
in 2020/21/22 , the Steelers were in the playoffs 2 of those years. Chuks played 94%, 97% and 100% of the teams offensive snaps those 3 seasons, earning a 2nd contract from the team that drafted him.
granted, once he got paid, he lost interest and fell off (a la Trent Brown). he came here on a look see/change of scenery deal, and again lost interest/poor coaching/poor scheme and he walked away...
for a 3 year span, he was a very viable RT
 
RobertWeathers said:
Saying Marone sucks or Hudson is too far gone?
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Not that Marone sucks, I just think that he is too rigid and does not do very well adapting to changes. As long as everything is perfect he is good but when adversity arises he seems to lack the ability to adjust.

I am basing this off of tape from previous teams that he was the OL coach of, when he signed I went back and watched alot of his OL units. I am not in the room so I could be way of base, but that is what I saw on tape.
 
The Gr8est said:
Seems that Hudson has talent, but lets his emotions overrule his head.

Vrabel might just be the coach who can get through to him.

Vrabel understands players and relates to them very well.

This is the sort of player that I can see Vrabel having success with, but with BB not so much.
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Maybe they had some contact when Vrabel worked for the Browns?

I'd guess he only gets paid if he makes the roster after taking $6 mil from the Giants, and then making NFL history as the first guy to commit four penalties on an opening drive.

After two games the Giants walked away.

That's his legacy unless he gets serious in camp.
 
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