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I did not post a video of the cut block.

I do think Campbell was horrible in the first two playoff games (objectively true), and that cut block attempt was terrible. I do give him credit for being better that first half.

I give him no credit for the second half. No one is a pass rush threat in 3 inches of slush.

Also what does any of that have to do with Bill being a prick for 25 years?
If you did not post the video, I apologize
 
What they're really trying to do is amplify Spygate so that's his legacy

It's pretty gross really, given what we know about the transgression and over penalization

They already got their pound of flesh, but it wasn't enough.

The Colts are and always have been *****es to the nth degree.
Which Spygate?

Rams or Mangina?


Rams…that wasn’t cool of BB.

Mangina= **** him.
 
So Brady isn’t going into the HOF? That’s the line of argument here.
The only thing you can kind of hold against Brady is deflategate and most people view that as a circus and a joke and a lot of insiders view that as more of a "we wanted to get the Patriots again for Spygate".

Spygate was always the big one that they really cared about and that was something that squarely fell on Bill and a lot of old heads felt like he never really paid what he should have for that. I think most of us know that was overblown. But the league handled that in the ****tiest way possible and created a bunch of conspiracy nonsense that made the Pats boogiemen. And now all those guys are the voters who decide who to enshrine or not.
 
So Brady isn’t going into the HOF? That’s the line of argument here. Because if they vote Tom in and not Brady, the cheating accusations are ******** and it’s simple pettiness dressed up as concern for the sanctity of the game.
Actually a fascinating storyline. Because you could make that point.

But my guess?

People hold Bill responsible for “cheating” and not Tom.

Also Tom is kind of a kiss ass which will play well with voters .

I’m kinda pissed at TB12 for slighting Drake to be transparent
 
Yes of course the voters are humans blah blah blah and they’ve managed to fully remind everyone how important ass-kissing is no matter how well one does their job. Got that everyone? Your legacy will NEVER speak for itself in the NFL if you hurt some voter’s precious fee-fees!

Legends of sport are coming out as astonished by this, so to say everyone should have expected it is just not true.
 
Here’s the million dollar question:

Did Kraft get in?

Cuz HOLY **** I can’t imagine the limp **** pounding poor Jordan will take if Kraft makes it and Bill doesn’t.
 
Yes of course the voters are humans blah blah blah and they’ve managed to fully remind everyone how important ass-kissing is no matter how well one does their job. Got that everyone? Your legacy will NEVER speak for itself in the NFL if you hurt some voter’s precious fee-fees!

Legends of sport are coming out as astonished by this, so to say everyone should have expected it is just not true.
Happened in Baseball for years. Clemons, Bonds, Pete Rose etc.

Vendettas are a thing.
 
The only thing you can kind of hold against Brady is deflategate and most people view that as a circus and a joke and a lot of insiders view that as more of a "we wanted to get the Patriots again for Spygate".

Spygate was always the big one that they really cared about and that was something that squarely fell on Bill and a lot of old heads felt like he never really paid what he should have for that. I think most of us know that was overblown. But the league handled that in the ****tiest way possible and created a bunch of conspiracy nonsense that made the Pats boogiemen. And now all those guys are the voters who decide who to enshrine or not.
I don’t think people hate Brady like they hate Belichick. Even some of Brady’s haters came around after he left NE.
 
Here’s the thing. If you don’t vote in someone who is deserving because of your personal animosity against that person, you’ve proven you’re incapable of putting the ideals of the HOF above your own pettiness. It really says more about the voters than it does Bill with all his faults.
I think we all agree. Just saying that’s how it is. Voters are biased and they always will be. There will never be a purely on-the-field objective pool of voters.
 
So Brady isn’t going into the HOF? That’s the line of argument here. Because if they vote Tom in and not Brady, the cheating accusations are ******** and it’s simple pettiness dressed up as concern for the sanctity of the game.
Brady can't get in first ballot if Kraft and BB didn't.
 
So Brady isn’t going into the HOF? That’s the line of argument here. Because if they vote Tom in and not Brady, the cheating accusations are ******** and it’s simple pettiness dressed up as concern for the sanctity of the game.
Brady is not hated like BB.
We all agree that BB should be a 1st ballot HOFer.
Even tho Brady and BB were both involved in scandals (again, real or perceived), BB would be a HOFer today even with those if he just wasn't such a ****.
Some Pats fans don't like to admit that, but he did himself no favours.
 
I think we all agree. Just saying that’s how it is. Voters are biased and they always will be. There will never be a purely on-the-field objective pool of voters.
Isn’t Ron Goddamned Borges still a voter somehow?
 
Actually a fascinating storyline. Because you could make that point.

But my guess?

People hold Bill responsible for “cheating” and not Tom.

Also Tom is kind of a kiss ass which will play well with voters .

I’m kinda pissed at TB12 for slighting Drake to be transparent
Tom has several things working in his favor that Bill doesn't.

1. Tom isn't associated with Spygate the same way which is the big cloud over Bill's peak. Deflategate was seen as a big joke.

2. Bill played poorly with the media, Tom is in the media and they like him.

3. The big one.... Tom is far higher profile than any NFL player ever. Bill not getting in the HOF this year is maybe a topic for a few days on ESPN and the other sports shows. Tom not getting in the HOF is national news and every mainstream outlet will immediately jump on it and it will put the biggest light ever on these voters and they REALLY don't want to be the guys who held the GOAT QB out. They really do not want Tom on tv every Sunday and having everyone talk about what a disgrace it is. The don't want all the news talk shows talking about it and it being water cooler discussion
 
The amount of pettiness in this damn league is stunning. People hold on to grudges to get back at someone during the Hall of Fame vote.
 
Brady is not hated like BB.
We all agree that BB should be a 1st ballot HOFer.
Even tho Brady and BB were both involved in scandals (again, real or perceived), BB would be a HOFer today even with those if he just wasn't such a ****.
Some Pats fans don't like to admit that, but he did himself no favours.
STFU. You don't like BB, we get it but just STFU.
 
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