Patriots hosting OL Greg Van Roten

[Ring 6]

You're correct. Apologies. I mixed you up with another.

Do you want a do over on this one? “I'm not debating this because you are so stubborn and narrow minded, and we have this debate every year.”

 

[captain stone]

No, it’s a reflection of who they Don’t have in house. They are looking outside the org….which is why they are signing 36 yo guards in August.

Yep. As one example, Eliot could've had the clearly superior Mason McCormick at Guard with the pick he wasted, naturally, on Laydown Robinson... Heck the least he could've done was keep Strange69 last year as insurance, then re-evaluate at season's end...

Regarding Center, the release a year ago of Jake the Latest Fake Andrews may or may not have been premature... Still wish they had signed Maye's Center at UNC his senior year, Wee Willie Lampkin, who yes I know wound-up being waived/injured but he's on the Fecals 90 and they know more about OLmen than some other teams I can think-of... I also would've gone hard after the Pride of Dartmouth via Duxbury MA, UDFA G/C Delby Lemieux, currently on the Vikings' 90... Ya can't win if ya don't play.

 

[Zuma]

I am not dismissing anyone yet, but I don't see Lomu moving around at all. RT behind Moses. period.

It’s good to be able to play multiple positions…especially if you’re a rookie. But I think it’s a mistake to play Lomu at nearly every position on the line without letting him get good at one position 1st.

EDIT: I don't mind being wrong with this one

 

[Family]

Do you want a do over on this one? “I'm not debating this because you are so stubborn and narrow minded, and we have this debate every year.”

No you're stubborn and narrow minded despite this.

I was just wrong on this one.

 

[Ring 6]

No you're stubborn and narrow minded despite this.

I was just wrong on this one.

Hahahaha. Are you triumphs inbred cousin?
You are owning yourself by stubbornly calling someone else stubborn when they were right, you were wrong and THEY were stubborn because you disagreed and you turned out to be wrong.


He’s a little self evaluation for you. If you judge me stubborn because I didn’t find your argument sufficient to change your mind and it got contentious, aren’t you calling yourself stubborn because you didn’t give in either?

Pot meet kettle.

 

[Family]

Hahahaha. Are you triumphs inbred cousin?
You are owning yourself by stubbornly calling someone else stubborn when they were right, you were wrong and THEY were stubborn because you disagreed and you turned out to be wrong.


He’s a little self evaluation for you. If you judge me stubborn because I didn’t find your argument sufficient to change your mind and it got contentious, aren’t you calling yourself stubborn because you didn’t give in either?

Pot meet kettle.

You can't even take an apology gracefully.

It's patterns, not one instance.

 

[Clonamery]

You can't even take an apology gracefully.

It's patterns, not one instance.

According to the American Psychological Association, rates of perfectionist disorder in the United States have increased dramatically since the 1980s. A study conducted among English-speaking cultures such as Canada, America, and the UK, Curran and Hill found that the proportion of people who showed perfectionist traits had risen 33% from 1989 to 2016.

 

[DC Patriots]

Perfectionism isn’t a disorder, it’s a trait. Disorder implies a cluster of related traits or symptoms.

We have support groups. Hope to see you all at the next meeting

 

[Clonamery]

Perfectionism isn’t a disorder, it’s a trait. Disorder implies a cluster of related traits or symptoms.

We have support groups. Hope to see you all at the next meeting

LOL. Don't ever give in and always listen to your sponsor.

 

[Family]

According to the American Psychological Association, rates of perfectionist disorder in the United States have increased dramatically since the 1980s. A study conducted among English-speaking cultures such as Canada, America, and the UK, Curran and Hill found that the proportion of people who showed perfectionist traits had risen 33% from 1989 to 2016.

Ring obviously knows football, and has some good opinions. He was one of the early posters who thought the team was good last year.

But he's useless in discussions.

I'm not sure what causes this behavior, but you may be right.

 

[rkarp1]

It’s good to be able to play multiple positions…especially if you’re a rookie. But I think it’s a mistake to play Lomu at nearly every position on the line without letting him get good at one position 1st.

EDIT: I don't mind being wrong with this one

I agree, especially for a back up
but not a #1 pick, that was perhaps thought of to be a player that would game a percentage of the snaps each game, to give Moses a breather, and acclimate Lomu.

 

[Clonamery]

Ring obviously knows football, and has some good opinions. He was one of the early posters who thought the team was good last year.

But he's useless in discussions.

I'm not sure what causes this behavior, but you may be right.

Your admission should have been agreeable for a forum that lends itself to constant predictions, not a meal to chew on.

 

[jdlboot14]

I'm not a huge fan of a 36 year old OG as our rescue plan.
I thought between Rupcich, Brown, Butler - we have enough to spot start in case of injury.
I know reports are that Brown has struggled at Guard, but he's the only real backup at Center - which is much more critical, since others can help at Guard if it's a mid-game fill in situation.
I mean, Van Roten should still be available on the couch if we're in say, week 5 or 6 and really need a backup. By then we could also know if any of our guys are really not going to cut it.

 

[mgteich]

I agree, especially for a back up
but not a #1 pick, that was perhaps thought of to be a player that would game a percentage of the snaps each game, to give Moses a breather, and acclimate Lomu.

I expect that Bryant and Lomu will be active early in the season (all season?), with Bryant being the backup LT.

 

[DC Patriots]

I'm not a huge fan of a 36 year old OG as our rescue plan.
I thought between Rupcich, Brown, Butler - we have enough to spot start in case of injury.
I know reports are that Brown has struggled at Guard, but he's the only real backup at Center - which is much more critical, since others can help at Guard if it's a mid-game fill in situation.
I mean, Van Roten should still be available on the couch if we're in say, week 5 or 6 and really need a backup. By then we could also know if any of our guys are really not going to cut it.

I see where you’re coming from. If/where to worry about the OL is subjective. But,

Wilson has never played center at a pro level and looked lost at times last year. AVT is dominant when healthy but has had a hard time staying healthy across a season. A back up, who was a 17 game starter last year, who can probably be had for very reasonable money isn’t the worst use of resources as a back up plan

 

[Ring 6]

You can't even take an apology gracefully.

It's patterns, not one instance.

Because it was a bs apology.
Apologizing for getting the fact wrong that you used to personally attack my character and not apologizing for the attack is not sincere it’s CYA on a gotcha.

I don’t think you understand what stubborn is.

I post opinions here that I think through, research, consider all sides and form an opinion.
Of course there is a high bar to get me to change my mind, and the bar starts with facts not anecdotal examples.
When someone disagrees with me I almost every case I respond specifically to every single point they make and give my side. I painstakingly address every point of disagreement.
If you can’t bring a persuasive argument to overcome my deeply considered opinion that’s not my fault.

I would suggest if you see a pattern you should look at why your arguments aren’t convincing or how deeply you considers the opinion you threw out there.

 

[Ring 6]

Ring obviously knows football, and has some good opinions. He was one of the early posters who thought the team was good last year.

But he's useless in discussions.

I'm not sure what causes this behavior, but you may be right.

See my last post. If you can’t bring facts and make a persuasive argument that’s a you problem.
If you try to tell me I am wrong about something you need to make a better case for your side than you have been doing.

 

[Ring 6]

Your admission should have been agreeable for a forum that lends itself to constant predictions, not a meal to chew on.

Using an incorrect fact to attack someone’s character and then apologizing for the wrong fact and not the attack is not sincere.

 

[Family]

Using an incorrect fact to attack someone’s character and then apologizing for the wrong fact and not the attack is not sincere.

I was apologizing in any way you wanted it to be. But that doesn't change that you are stubborn and narrow minded. Even caring that I think this in a nameless faceless forum says something.

I'd appreciate you not comment on my posts, and I will not comment on yours.

I will continue to read your posts because you are one of the most entertaining posters, whether it be from knowledge of the game, or from something sick inside of me that enjoys them.

It's like watching a person on one of those reality cable shows.

 

[n1997y]

According to the American Psychological Association, rates of perfectionist disorder in the United States have increased dramatically since the 1980s. A study conducted among English-speaking cultures such as Canada, America, and the UK, Curran and Hill found that the proportion of people who showed perfectionist traits had risen 33% from 1989 to 2016.

Here’s the link you should’ve posted instead of that generic link to the APA .org page: https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2018/01/perfectionism-young-people

Ironically the study lead author is Thomas Curran. lol.

Perfectionism isn’t a disorder, it’s a trait. Disorder implies a cluster of related traits or symptoms.

We have support groups. Hope to see you all at the next meeting

Grok agrees. Perfectionism is listed in the DSM as a trait for a couple of disorders. They’re no surprise: