Finally: 5 NFL OT's

[mgteich]

Just so everyone remembers, last year the Pats tried to get Ronnie Stanley in FA as option 1 and couldn't and we're forced to take the top rated OT in the class to fill the position as a rookie.

That same team that was 4-13 the year before went to the mother ****ing Super Bowl with that rookie LT who acquitted himself quite well before the injury despite playing next to a very green rookie playing out of position at LG.

The recentcy bias of the Super Bowl needs to be put into perspective. Maye's shoulder was ****ed, Brown should have started at LG over Wilson and given the injury, Campbell should have gotten more TE help on the edge. JMcD's game plan/ in game adjustments were pretty piss poor.

Yes, Campbell did very well at LT. That doesn't mean that he should be our LT for the next four years. Campbell is a core player io our line and will continue to be so. I don't know why folks think that Campbell has to be a LT forever to be the best value for himself and for the patriots.

 

[Water Boy]

Yes, Campbell did very well at LT. That doesn't mean that he should be our LT for the next four years. Campbell is a core player in our line and continue to be so. I don't know why folks think that Campbell has to be a LT forever to be the best value for himself and for the patriots.

I agree. If it turns out that Campbell, when healthy, can't refine his technique enough at tackle to earn and keep that job then by all means do whatever is necessary.

I just don't agree with those writing him off post injury year one before any evaluation of year two.

 

[p8ryts]

I agree. If it turns out that Campbell, when healthy, can't refine his technique enough at tackle to earn and keep that job then by all means do whatever is necessary.

I just don't agree with those writing him off post injury year one before any evaluation of year two.

I wouldn't write him off, but I wouldn't anoint him either.

 

[40yrpatsfan]

I think Campbell will become at least an average starting LT, if not better, for years. The Pats were seeking a top RT in this draft, and it didn't work out when Miller & Max got taken early, so they pivoted to a top LT in Lomu to be be a swing in 2026 and a RT in 2027. Not perfect but a pretty solid plan.

However, Lomu moves like a natural LT and the coaches could decide that he's a better LT than Will could ever be, and move Campbell to RT. That's also a pretty solid plan and I think very possible. If not for all the bs about arm length, that would probably fly under the radar as a common-sense move.

If Crownover were to simultaneously show monster potential at RT, I suppose Campbell could move to guard - he seems like the only one of the 3 that could play a good guard. I don't know if Crownover could show that much growth in 1 year though.

 

[neuronet]

In the spirit of long term aspirations, I wonder if Moses could become a coach here eventually. I love that guy.

 

[condon84]

Using the #4 overall pick on a LG would have been a poor use of draft capital

I am pretty sure they stick with Campbell at LT unless he flat out fails like he did in SB

Keeping Campbell at LT strictly because you picked him #4 overall would be very dumb. I don't think Vrabel is a dumb guy (football wise, not personal lives wise). If no one on the roster is better then you roll with it, but if Lomu performs better, then you do what's best for the team.

 

[The Gr8est]

Keeping Campbell at LT strictly because you picked him #4 overall would be very dumb. I don't think Vrabel is a dumb guy (football wise, not personal lives wise). If no one on the roster is better then you roll with it, but if Lomu performs better, then you do what's best for the team.

After Lomu was drafted he was asked and he said he would play anywhere the Pats wanted to play him.

I don’t recall if Campbell was ever asked that. At the time he was clearly drafted to plug the gaping hole at LT.

I would hope that Campbell would also be open to playing wherever the Pats felt he could help most.

 

[Ring 6]

I would not be surprised if Lomu is the #1 reserve in 2026 for every OL position except for center.

That is my expectation

 

[Joey007]

In 2011 we had Matt Light, Sebastian Vollmer, and rookies Nate Solder and Marcus Cannon at OT. We had Logan Mankins and Brian Waters at guard, and Dan Koppen at center, with Dan Connolly and Ryan Wendell for depth. We rode that OL to the SB, with a very flawed team.

You even forgot Donald Thomas at guard, a sneaky capable stater.

Man I loved that OL. Deepest we’ve ever had. Never understood why Bill never signed more vets at guard the way we did with Brian Waters that year. He was a stud.

 

[tuckeverlasting]

should we start from scratch and throw them all in a bucket and see who plays best where or do we start with our foundation from last year and plug and play with wilson moving to C and plug in AVT at G. with lomu redshirting 'til needed ? i'm torn but i do like the competition.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

AVT could get hurt walking into the building.

 

[stephens44]

Until training camp opens and injuries or other things happen, I see it as:
Will Campbell (LT)
Alijah Vera-Tucker (LG)
Jared Wilson (C)
Mike Onwenu (RG)
Morgan Moses (RT)
Lomu is the swing Tackle, Ben Brown is the Guard back up. Hopefully last year's draftees make a 2nd year leap, the new guys look good too.

 

[mayoclinic]

Sounds familiar.

 

[TheRainMaker]

In 2011 we had Matt Light, Sebastian Vollmer, and rookies Nate Solder and Marcus Cannon at OT. We had Logan Mankins and Brian Waters at guard, and Dan Koppen at center, with Dan Connolly and Ryan Wendell for depth. We rode that OL to the SB, with a very flawed team.

2011 was one of their best O-lines along with 2018. Waters was a massive addition and he played at a high level for his age.