Patriots Rumor The pending UFA: who do we keep? Who walks?

[DaBruinz]

You could ask The same question to many past patiots players that went through similar contract disputes.. I'm simply saying where I believe his value is 8-10 Milly... maybe Vrabel does 14-15??

The problem is that you have ZERO BASIS or support to say that Chaisson's value is 8-10M. In fact, it's borderline insulting considering where he ended up in the rankings compared to other players. Something I've pointed out to you and you refuse to acknowledge.

 

[DaBruinz]

As useful as Tonga was, the Pats have good depth at interior DL.

Williams, Barmore, Durden, Farmer.

The Pats rolled out 5 DL on a regular basis. That was the key to keeping them healthy and in the games. Even when they had both Tonga and Williams out, they still rolled out 5 D-line by bringing up Pharms and either Lovett or Taylor. They've already taken a step by bringing back Taylor on a Future's deal. Tonga brings a girth that the other players don't have.

They also have Eric Gregory under contract.

Tonga being re-signed will likely depend on whether the Pats believe that Gregory or Farmer can bring the same level of run defense that Tonga can despite the weight differences.

 

[203Pat]

The answer at TE is that if Henry is still TE1 next year then we royally screwed up.

I don’t know about it being a major screwup but I do agree we should have a younger guy as the main option at TE by the end of the season. Maybe we pay up for a guy like Pitts, Likely, or Njoku if they hit the market or maybe Sadiq is in range where it wouldn't cost a fortune to move up. Henry was the engine for the offense for a good chunk of the season but faded in the postseason and had a few drops. He will also turn 32 next season so either way we need to add some youth at the position.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Many are predicting Pitts to sign with NE. He would bring some athleticism, but we need a blocker which is actually hard to find.

 

[Edelmania]

Many are predicting Pitts to sign with NE. He would bring some athleticism, but we need a blocker which is actually hard to find.

I like Njoku, should be relatively cheap and is an above average blocker particularly when helping in pass protection. Should be able to replace everything Hooper does for us but at a higher level with more upside.

 

[n1997y]

All of those players would... vastly impact the rush.. I'd mafe.. not sure if Seattle has the cap to retain him? He's young and had tremendous upside.. adding him and maybe another 2nd tier edge rusher would vastly improve the edge rush to go along with KC..

Mafe in 2025 according to ESPN totaled 14 solo tackles and 2 sacks.
Chaisson, same source, totaled 25 solo tackles and 10.5 sacks.
Folks on here are saying we can’t afford Chaisson. If Seattle can’t afford Mafe how expensive will he be?
Mafe seems like a major downgrade. Perhaps he is cheaper, but are we trying to get cheaper or trying to get better?

 

[Toofy]

The best tight end we can possibly sign who would be bonkers here would be Cade Otton.

If we get him we should go get him. Much better option than Kyle Pitts.

 

[mgteich]

I don’t know about it being a major screwup but I do agree we should have a younger guy as the main option at TE by the end of the season. Maybe we pay up for a guy like Pitts, Likely, or Njoku if they hit the market or maybe Sadiq is in range where it wouldn't cost a fortune to move up. Henry was the engine for the offense for a good chunk of the season but faded in the postseason and had a few drops. He will also turn 32 next season so either way we need to add some youth at the position.

I am interested that folks want to replace Henry by the end of the season with a younger TE. Being a better TE seems to have much less interest.

 

[Toofy]

I am interested that folks want to replace Henry by the end of the season with a younger TE. Being a better TE seems to have much less interest.

I have a feeling we will keep Henry unless we sign Pitts for say 12 million a year .

 

[Real fan 02]

Mafe in 2025 according to ESPN totaled 14 solo tackles and 2 sacks.
Chaisson, same source, totaled 25 solo tackles and 10.5 sacks.
Folks on here are saying we can’t afford Chaisson. If Seattle can’t afford Mafe how expensive will he be?
Mafe seems like a major downgrade. Perhaps he is cheaper, but are we trying to get cheaper or trying to get better?

Great points. I'd say Chaisson remains.. there projects to also be some major upgrade at EDGE.. we have some nice depth and developing players like Ponder who had a nice postseason... but getting at least one premier EDGE rusher and maybe a 2nd tier guys will do wonders..

 

[Real fan 02]

The best tight end we can possibly sign who would be bonkers here would be Cade Otton.

If we get him we should go get him. Much better option than Kyle Pitts.

Bijan Robinson among 4 Falcons on AP's 2025 NFL All-Pro team

 

[dliverey44]

The problem is that you have ZERO BASIS or support to say that Chaisson's value is 8-10M. In fact, it's borderline insulting considering where he ended up in the rankings compared to other players. Something I've pointed out to you and you refuse to acknowledge.

Spotrac approximates Chaissons market value at 9m annually. I have no idea if they are usually accurate in the guesses

 

[DaBruinz]

Spotrac approximates Chaissons market value at 9m annually. I have no idea if they are usually accurate in the guesses

I could care less about that that garbage website lists. The owners are scumbag POS who steal others works.

I put up factual information as to what players who are making over 13M/yr did in comparison to Chaisson. There were plenty who didn't have the sacks or pressures that Chaisson did.

 

[dliverey44]

I could care less about that that garbage website lists. The owners are scumbag POS who steal others works.

I put up factual information as to what players who are making over 13M/yr did in comparison to Chaisson. There were plenty who didn't have the sacks or pressures that Chaisson did.

Wow aggressive. My point was that may be where he got the info.

I don't know anything about the website or their owners, but I use the website for transactions and to see who the FAs are

 

[Ring 6]

Very small list of UFA this offseason. But about 5 of the 6 played big roles this year:

Khyiris Tonga
Jaylinn Hawkins
Vederian Lowe
Thayer Munford
K’Lavon Chaisson
Austin Hooper

I think the 3 must keeps for me are Tonga, Hawkins, Lowe. Need Lowe for insurance at LT. Hawkins also is one you almost wonder if you consider a tag for. But I doubt it with how inflated the number is. But he massively impressed me this year.

Chaisson is one I’m open to if it’s for the right price. I don’t want to overpay him, we need to hit big on the edge rush this offseason. Hooper lastly just depends on the market. Wouldn’t be opposed, but also would like to get younger at the position behind Henry. Deep FA market at TE.

Tonga and Hawkins said they do not want to leave.
Both are basically JAGS who made nice contributions.
Lowe is gone because because some team that doesn’t realize he sucks will pay him because he’s played LT (poorly)
Munford should be back on the vet minimum, he’s a roster bubble/practice squad guy.
Chaisson will probably be gone because a team will pay more than we think he’s worth. Since we didn’t extend him during the year it would seem the team and player don’t agree on value.
Hooper is a JAG. And an old one. I’d rather we find a younger guy. He doesn’t really do anything that any competant backup TE would do because a TE2 gets open by scheme way more than skill. A better blocker would be good too

 

[Love The Drake]

Alec Pierce should be a target, and Pitts, or Njoku.
Get competition at Tackle and guard.

A better fullback, a better Punter.
Resign Tonga, Hawkins, Chasson, Gibby comes back.
I’d be tempted to go after Shaheed and or George Pickens.
You have to let Diggs go sadly.

I’d love to make Diggs a coach.

 

[mike_usagisan]

Alec Pierce should be a target, and Pitts, or Njoku.
Get competition at Tackle and guard.

A better fullback, a better Punter.
Resign Tonga, Hawkins, Chasson, Gibby comes back.
I’d be tempted to go after Shaheed and or George Pickens.
You have to let Diggs go sadly.

I’d love to make Diggs a coach.

I like Pierce. I don't know how serious the team is about a WR and Pierce would be a major star of the free agent market.
I think guard is a need.
I'm not sure where they stand on a tackle.
Fullback, I think they like the one on IR and if not, should be easily able to find another.
I expect some competition for punter in camp.
I don't think they'll go after Shaheed or Pickens.
I think they'll hold onto Diggs until the decide what to do at WR.

 

[Toofy]

I like Pierce. I don't know how serious the team is about a WR and Pierce would be a major star of the free agent market.
I think guard is a need.
I'm not sure where they stand on a tackle.
Fullback, I think they like the one on IR and if not, should be easily able to find another.
I expect some competition for punter in camp.
I don't think they'll go after Shaheed or Pickens.
I think they'll hold onto Diggs until the decide what to do at WR.

Alec Pierce and Cade Otton would be great signings for me . Focus more on pop and Chism as slot guyz this season to help with blitzes and short intermediate passes. . If we get linderbaum that's a bonus.

Cut or trade Diggs . Don't resign hooper.

This will build the core.

 

[TommyD4207]

Alec Pierce should be a target, and Pitts, or Njoku.
Get competition at Tackle and guard.

A better fullback, a better Punter.
Resign Tonga, Hawkins, Chasson, Gibby comes back.
I’d be tempted to go after Shaheed and or George Pickens.
You have to let Diggs go sadly.

I’d love to make Diggs a coach.

I think you need Diggs for another year for Williams protection. An AJ Brown trade ain't gonna happen until that price falls. Diggs a year removed from the ACL could still be very effective. Shaheed is a one-trick pony, and George Pickens is a loser nightmare no one in their right mind should want.

Break the bank for Tyler Linderbaum. Figure it out accordingly around him. You're going to need to draft a tackle in this draft to replace Moses, preferably, and at least one guard to replace Onwenu. No way can you bring him back for the money he's making.

You need a better fullback. Westover, I gave him all year, he didn't improve nearly enough.

Baringer has two bad games in snowstorms, and everyone wants him cut. Baringer basically won them three games this year.

Re-sign Tonga if he wants to stay cheap, he fell off a cliff, even a little bit pre-injury, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt there. He is 29, almost 30, however.

Hawkins can take the next plane out of town, as far as I'm concerned. He's fine as a depth piece, but no way am I signing him for anything resembling starting money, and you need to improve that position dramatically. He's not Myles Bryant bad, but he's damn close.

I'd try to get Chaisson on a short-term (2-3 yrs) on relatively short money with a high guarantee. You can't pay him 20 mil a year, he's not that guy. I think a big trade-up to get Harold Bain in the draft would be ideal. Landry's stuck here for another year unless he retires, and whether via draft or free agency, pass rusher desperately needs to be addressed, because you can't blitz 6 on every play and expect your back end to hold up, especially with those holes at linebacker.

Gibson on a cheap one-year deal sounds fine, but he's coming off an ACL as well. Need to get a guy in the draft as a Stevenson replacement in-waiting. Stevenson earned the right to finish out his contact here, in my mind.

Henry has a lot of dead cap, it's fine to keep him, Hooper you can probably get back on a 1-year cheap. You need to get younger and simply better at the position though. If you can't make a big move for Bain in the top 10, maybe a smaller deal to get Sadiq in the top 20, that guy's going to be a big-time star.

You need to dramatically improve at linebacker. Spillane and the Special Teamers are a nice story, but if Spillane is your best linebacker, you need a better linebacker, and Gibbens and Elliss should be depth pieces at best. Jehlani Tavai should never be allowed back in the facility again. This is something you should address twice in the draft, and probably in free agency as well.

You need to spend a premium pick to replace Carlton Davis and slowly add them to the mix. Free Agency doesn't seem to be much of a crop at Corner.

That's a lot. Incredible that roster won the AFC. I guess coaching still matters.

 

[Real fan 02]

Many are predicting Pitts to sign with NE. He would bring some athleticism, but we need a blocker which is actually hard to find.

I believe we sign or draft a blocking TE.. although those guys are surely needed and valued.. need someone at TE that strikes fear in defenses.. that can counter what a DC tries to gameplan for...

Go after the talent and coach the player up.