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PostGame Thread OFFICIAL 2025 Week 16 Postgame Thread: Patriots Clinch Playoff Berth with 28-24 win over Ravens

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Hollins. Very very much an underrated signing. He’s been a blessing in blocking & key receiving.
He’s been phenomenal for the Pats, he’s exceeded my expectations by a mile. I thought he’d come in as a great special teams player and a run blocking 5th WR. He’s third on the team in receptions and receiving yards. Add in he’s a leader in the locker room. He’s like a pass catching small TE (because of his blocking).
 
Like Linderbaum, fully endorse that!
Lloyd….not sure.
Liked him coming out but he was quite uninspiring his first couple of years.
I know he’s having a good year this, but I haven’t watched enough Jax games to give my own objective opinion

Lindebaum should be their top priority, he's a beast.
 
Like Linderbaum, fully endorse that!
Lloyd….not sure.
Liked him coming out but he was quite uninspiring his first couple of years.
I know he’s having a good year this, but I haven’t watched enough Jax games to give my own objective opinion
 
Interesting list.
Quay Walker is another guy he was really underwhelming his first couple of years, and I have Pack freinds who complained about him last couple of years, but when I watch GB this year he has looked good and he’s still really young.
Interested to get Lambeau12s thoughts.
 
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I do know he’s older but all of a sudden our winning window is open. Maybe an IOL like Joel Bitonio would be a big benefit to Drake Maye and our young OL. Then draft an IOL with some RT potential like a Gennings Dunker.
LT: Campbell
LG: Bitonio
C: Wilson
RG: Onwenu
RT: Moses/Dunker
I don't think Dunker is a RT - he's not great at pass blocking on the edge. He'd be a very good RG though. Awesome run blocker.
 
I’m guessing Miami after our Martinez discussions. Mesidor and Keionte Scott are my two favourite prospects in the draft. Both were awesome at the weekend although they’ve been my favourites for a while now (Mesidor since the start of the year watching Bain and realising Mesidor was frequently beating Bain to the QB).

Also, I’ve already banked Toney as a binky for 2028.
Messidor is a pure pass rusher.
Bain can set an edge, and draws way more attention from protections. Bain will probably go top-5, rightfully so.

Maugioa probably will too. Markell Bell is enormous and has great quickness for his size. Brockermeyer is a good technician at center. I'm pretty sure they'll all be drafted, probably all in the top 100.

Don't be shocked if Okunlola declares too - and if he does, he's someone you could use one of those 6th round picks on. Brockton, MA native. Recruited by Highsmith.
 
My thoughts on how to fix the OL has changed since our window of winning has opened earlier than expected. Linderbaum at C would be the prize. Then Wilson stays at G where he’s getting more comfortable to my untrained eye. Or go after a David Edwards or Bitonio for G and Wilson to C. Really wat to fortify the OL with skill and experience.
 
Messidor is a pure pass rusher.
Bain can set an edge, and draws way more attention from protections. Bain will probably go top-5, rightfully so.

Maugioa probably will too. Markell Bell is enormous and has great quickness for his size. Brockermeyer is a good technician at center. I'm pretty sure they'll all be drafted, probably all in the top 100.

Don't be shocked if Okunlola declares too - and if he does, he's someone you could use one of those 6th round picks on. Brockton, MA native. Recruited by Highsmith.
I know you don't put much stock on PFF but Mesidor is the highest graded run defender in CFB on the edge. Bain lacks length and athleticism which may see him fall. However, if there's anyone in the draft that fills the Vrabel/defensive coaches mantra of "violent hands" it's Bain.
 
Nakobe Dean is there, Leo Chenal is there...guys 27 and younger (including Lloyd who I like).

They're still building the roster, I'm not sure they're in the 'Pay the 30+ year old his third contract" range yet.
 
I know you don't put much stock on PFF but Mesidor is the highest graded run defender in CFB on the edge. Bain lacks length and athleticism which may see him fall. However, if there's anyone in the draft that fills the Vrabel/defensive coaches mantra of "violent hands" it's Bain.
I watch every snap of every Miami game. Messidor will be a very good pro. But he's benefited from all the attention Bain gets on the other side - and I don't see him lacking strength or athleticism.

Messidor, might make a couple pro bowls. Bain might be an all-pro as a rookie. He's that guy. Bain would start for the Patriots right now.
 
If Quinshon Judkins doesn’t get injured it is quite possible the Bills lose.

Unlike some others here I would not want to see the Bills win the SB if the Pats don’t, because of their arrogant fans who refuse to come to grips with reality.

They had their chance and squandered it. The current Bills team is not all that.
I'll be pulling for the AFC team in the SB, just as I usually do, but the Bills would be my choice right after the Pats.
 
Williams stepping in when Pop and Boutte went down can't be understated either.
It really can't. Maye was looking for him a couple of times and that never happens unless he is seeing things in practice. Dude has legit talent and looks like he is picking up the offense. I am very excited for his development. It would be awesome if in the playoffs he took off and people asked where did he come from .
 
I watch every snap of every Miami game. Messidor will be a very good pro. But he's benefited from all the attention Bain gets on the other side - and I don't see him lacking strength or athleticism.

Messidor, might make a couple pro bowls. Bain might be an all-pro as a rookie. He's that guy. Bain would start for the Patriots right now.
Length not strength. He has sub 31" arms and he's not going to run 4.5-4.6 and may not do a sub 7 3-cone. But I'm with you, Bain is a great Vrabel pick and if it's remotely possible come draft day would be my no 1 pick on my Patriots board. And yes, he would start right now.
 
Maye threw that clutch throw to Boutte. They interfered and the corrupt refs didnt call it but Maye proved he can make the winning throw when it counts. Maye is a champion! We picked the right QB!
That in the end was the tell for me. That was really an inflection point for his career. Up until the 4th I thought Maye was kinda rough. The INT, the fumble, other INT worthy passes etc. That non PI call was a massive call that could have changed the game. Instead of turtling, Maye and the offense went to work and had a drive that I can't recall seeing before. Also, after that with the fumble, they made sure to end the game.

Those 2 drives changed what I think this team can do now and in the future. On national TV they showed they have balls, won't back down and won't stop.
 
Nakobe Dean is there, Leo Chenal is there...guys 27 and younger (including Lloyd who I like).

They're still building the roster, I'm not sure they're in the 'Pay the 30+ year old his third contract" range yet.
Dean.. that's right.. yeah. We need to target the 25-28 age range for players.. the guys we signed this season for the most part I'm sure Vrabel will offer them team friendly deals.. chassion, Tonga, Landry probably retires. Those guys can be part of the depth and rotation.
 
Interesting list.
Quay Walker is another guy he was really underwhelming his first couple of years, and I have Pack freinds who complained about him last couple of years, but when I watch GB this year he has looked good and he’s still really young.
Interested to get Lambeau12s thoughts.
Yes. Quay walker provides some great pass rush ability and he can also play the run well.. we need some guys on the edges with a High motor.
 
Williams stepping in when Pop and Boutte went down can't be understated either.
I can't wait for him to take a drag the distance.
 
I was hoping Jennings wasn't moved.. he serves a need and is an excellent edge setter. I believe he has grown on Vrabel and I hope that he remains going forward need guys like Jennings on a team.. Tavai, Ellis and Gibbens are all down hill thumpers.. they should never been in positions to cover..but.. becuase of the injuries they are pressed into those positions. Barmore is ailing and props to him for even playing in a NFL game after what he's been through.
Jenning should be back next year.
 
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