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[signbabybrady]

The message sent to the team is clear.

Vrabel is saying "We do not think the team is good enough yet to justify spending draft capital, because we are not a top tier team".
I believe the team will understand and agree and maybe rally around the underdog aspect.

The 7-2 record is a complete mirage gifted by an incredibly weak schedule.
Finishing with 10, 11 or 12 wins and then getting blown out in the first round of the playoffs (like Mac Jones rookie season) is not going to help them.
They may be picking in the 22-26 range which will limit their ability to bring in top tier blue chip rookie talent.
Yes, its fun to see them win this year but it may be the opposite of a "blessing in disguise" and slow down the talent rebuilding process.

7-2 and he wants to tank. lol. wild.

 

[mayoclinic]

The message sent to the team is clear.

Vrabel is saying "We do not think the team is good enough yet to justify spending draft capital, because we are not a top tier team".
I believe the team will understand and agree and maybe rally around the underdog aspect.

The 7-2 record is a complete mirage gifted by an incredibly weak schedule.
Finishing with 10, 11 or 12 wins and then getting blown out in the first round of the playoffs (like Mac Jones rookie season) is not going to help them.
They may be picking in the 22-26 range which will limit their ability to bring in top tier blue chip rookie talent.
Yes, its fun to see them win this year but it may be the opposite of a "blessing in disguise" and slow down the talent rebuilding process.

You are in fine form.

So are the Bills and Chiefs also telling their players they are not ready compete?

And Jerry is telling the Cowboys that this is their time?

Utter nonsense, since I can't use a stronger term.

 

[TommyD4207]

The message sent to the team is clear.

Vrabel is saying "We do not think the team is good enough yet to justify spending draft capital, because we are not a top tier team".
I believe the team will understand and agree and maybe rally around the underdog aspect.

The 7-2 record is a complete mirage gifted by an incredibly weak schedule.
Finishing with 10, 11 or 12 wins and then getting blown out in the first round of the playoffs (like Mac Jones rookie season) is not going to help them.
They may be picking in the 22-26 range which will limit their ability to bring in top tier blue chip rookie talent.
Yes, its fun to see them win this year but it may be the opposite of a "blessing in disguise" and slow down the talent rebuilding process.

 

[maust]

The message sent to the team is clear.

Vrabel is saying "We do not think the team is good enough yet to justify spending draft capital, because we are not a top tier team".
I believe the team will understand and agree and maybe rally around the underdog aspect.

The 7-2 record is a complete mirage gifted by an incredibly weak schedule.
Finishing with 10, 11 or 12 wins and then getting blown out in the first round of the playoffs (like Mac Jones rookie season) is not going to help them.
They may be picking in the 22-26 range which will limit their ability to bring in top tier blue chip rookie talent.
Yes, its fun to see them win this year but it may be the opposite of a "blessing in disguise" and slow down the talent rebuilding process.

With your uplifting messages of hope and inspiration I bet you're in high demand to speak at bar & bat mitzvahs and the occasional reform school.

 

[n1997y]

… I just don't buy the idea that there is any real prospect of their advancing much in the playoffs, if they get there at all,

The message sent to the team is clear.

Vrabel is saying "We do not think the team is good enough yet to justify spending draft capital, because we are not a top tier team".
I believe the team will understand and agree and maybe rally around the underdog aspect.

The 7-2 record is a complete mirage gifted by an incredibly weak schedule.
Finishing with 10, 11 or 12 wins and then getting blown out in the first round of the playoffs (like Mac Jones rookie season) is not going to help them.
They may be picking in the 22-26 range which will limit their ability to bring in top tier blue chip rookie talent.
Yes, its fun to see them win this year but it may be the opposite of a "blessing in disguise" and slow down the talent rebuilding process.

Sam and Thelonious agree, the playoffs are hopeless.

My Super Bowl bet on the Pats is looking better all the time.

 

[VJCPatriot]

They may be picking in the 22-26 range which will limit their ability to bring in top tier blue chip rookie talent.
Yes, its fun to see them win this year but it may be the opposite of a "blessing in disguise" and slow down the talent rebuilding process.

I agree we will end up picking in the 20's because it looks very likely we are going to hit double digit wins. 12 is likely, 13 is possible.

This will test the scouting team and management to move up aggressively for the right player to acquire starter level talent.

There are players in the early to late teens that become pro bowl or even all-pro caliber, but identifying those players and moving up with conviction for them requires courage to make the call and good judgment to find them.

We should not be using all of our four 6th round picks. We should be packaging those picks to move up to fill specific needs or acquire players with good upside that will help us win.

We still have plenty of holes that we have been wallpapered over thanks to Drake Maye playing at a superstar level.

 

[mgteich]

Top men can't stop the need to pay inheritance tax..

Perhaps you need to hire an estate planner. One of their primary jobs is to structure assets and income tp minimize inheritance taxes,

 

[Thelonious]

Sam and Thelonious agree, the playoffs are hopeless.

My Super Bowl bet on the Pats is looking better all the time.

Well, I hope you win a bundle, because that would mean my team has wildly exceeded my expectations. I'll be happy; you'll be rich. What could be better?

But, you know, it ain't gonna happen, so....

 

[Thelonious]

I believe it's just a matter of the Patriots lacking talent at safety. So Vrabel tried to make Dugger work, but he just wasn't cutting it. It's best to admit the player doesn't fit and move on. That's exactly what Vrabel did.

The Patriots should have never given Dugger the big extension in the first place. It speaks volumes when a team believes signing someone off another team's practice squad is an upgrade over a player they traded away for peanuts.

Absolutely agree on the first paragraph.

I might prefix the second with, "In retrospect, it's clear that....," but other than that, this paragrph obviously on the money as well.

I would only add that, as badly degraded as Duggar's skills are, they should perhaps have held onto him, particularly given they must have known they were going to be as inert as they were in the trade window and that they were unlikely to have a replacement any time soon. None of this is a huge deal - I suppose they could find somebody on a practice squad to run around out there - but the whole thing looks a little lax to me. The reason, I suppose, that I am not much exercised about it is that I do not think these dreams of a 2025 Super Bowl are at all realistic. In the more realistic timeline, under which they might be actually competitive for the SB in a year or two, none of this really matters very much, which is probably why they have done what they have done and have not done what they have not done.

 

[Huckleberry1]

With your uplifting messages of hope and inspiration I bet you're in high demand to speak at bar & bat mitzvahs and the occasional reform school.

I'll bet a rain cloud follows Sam wherever he goes. I think that their success makes him miserable because he was 100% WRONG about everything. He didn't want Drake Maye, he didn't want Mike Vrabel, and said Aaron ( first pick in the draft) Glenn would be a HOF Coach, and didn't want Will Campbell, and said they will be picking in the top 10 again next draft if they picked him. Sam is rooting for them to lose, and tries desperately to make everyone as miserable as he is. Unfortunately for him it's not working.

 

[DaBruinz]

The message sent to the team is clear.

Vrabel is saying "We do not think the team is good enough yet to justify spending draft capital, because we are not a top tier team".
I believe the team will understand and agree and maybe rally around the underdog aspect.

The 7-2 record is a complete mirage gifted by an incredibly weak schedule.
Finishing with 10, 11 or 12 wins and then getting blown out in the first round of the playoffs (like Mac Jones rookie season) is not going to help them.
They may be picking in the 22-26 range which will limit their ability to bring in top tier blue chip rookie talent.
Yes, its fun to see them win this year but it may be the opposite of a "blessing in disguise" and slow down the talent rebuilding process.

OR.. God forbid you stop and actually THINK, What other teams wanted for compensation wasn't deemed to be worth it for a short term rental so Vrabel and the Pats felt comfortable staying put.

I know. Such ideas are a shock to your system because you insist on dwelling in a state of perpetual negativity.

 

[Ring 6]

The message sent to the team is clear.

Vrabel is saying "We do not think the team is good enough yet to justify spending draft capital, because we are not a top tier team".
I believe the team will understand and agree and maybe rally around the underdog aspect.

The 7-2 record is a complete mirage gifted by an incredibly weak schedule.
Finishing with 10, 11 or 12 wins and then getting blown out in the first round of the playoffs (like Mac Jones rookie season) is not going to help them.
They may be picking in the 22-26 range which will limit their ability to bring in top tier blue chip rookie talent.
Yes, its fun to see them win this year but it may be the opposite of a "blessing in disguise" and slow down the talent rebuilding process.

So you think the message Vrabel is sending is different then what he actually says?

You know there is an easier way. Instead of watching this team be significantly better than you thought it was, and probably than you still think it is, and performing mental gymnastics to try to knock them down you could just admit you were/are wrong and dint really have a clue.

This weak schedule that you are calling the only reason you weren’t right was the schedule when you said they would win 5 games all year.

There is one thing that changed. Your awful analysis was proven wrong.

 

[mgteich]

OR.. God forbid you stop and actually THINK, What other teams wanted for compensation wasn't deemed to be worth it for a short term rental so Vrabel and the Pats felt comfortable staying put.

I know. Such ideas are a shock to your system because you insist on dwelling in a state of perpetual negativity.

Not all players acquired were short term rentals.

Many teams acquired minor upgrades that sometimes were for players with a couple of years left on their contracts. Of course, many of these were bottom of the roster players that the team wanted to move on from.

 

[Give Kraft A Hand]

He can't even coach UNC. What's he going to do with the Jets?

He's going to piss away their draft picks. He's not known as BB the great drafter so I'm not even scared of that.

Bill will get exposed if he returns to the NFL. We all acknowledge that he's a great defensive mind but where is his Josh Mcdaniels and Tom Brady on the offensive side? He won't have them with the Jets.

Josh is coaching for us now. Maye plays for us now. It wouldn't be revenge for BB if he came back for the Jets. He would just end up embarrassing himself. He needs to stay retired at this point. The only place where he might have a chance to succeed is with a ready made team that is already stocked with good veteran talent. The Jets are not that team, they are NFL purgatory.

I think he’ll interview if the job opens up which I doubt it will. Now the Giants job might open up and I think there’s at least a solid chance they throw him a bone.

Let’s face it, it doesn’t matter who coaches them or who plays for them that franchise is doomed. JETS will always stand for Just End The Season.

 

[mgteich]

I think he’ll interview if the job opens up which I doubt it will. Now the Giants job might open up and I think there’s at least a solid chance they throw him a bone.

Let’s face it, it doesn’t matter who coaches them or who plays for them that franchise is doomed. JETS will always stand for Just End The Season.

the giants job makes sense

 

[Bill Lee]

You don't blame ANYONE. The Pats got very unlucky in the fact the top THREE teams who were trading players (Miami, Jets, and Titans) were never going to trade with the Patriots, because they were in the division, or owned by a vindictive mad woman. It's a shame, but it's a fact.

But we need someone to blame!

Other kids got cool Christmas presents, where's ours?

 

[Zuma]

Josh: teams are stupid...someone will offer him a HC job eventually but I don't think he will be interested because A) the wife will say no B) he is content in MA and as OC C) Both A and B

 

[DaBruinz]

Not all players acquired were short term rentals.

Many teams acquired minor upgrades that sometimes were for players with a couple of years left on their contracts. Of course, many of these were bottom of the roster players that the team wanted to move on from.

There's that lack of reading comprehension again that you are known for, MG.
You never fail to prove to everyone that you'll miss the point just to be contrary.

 

[Huckleberry1]

It's hilarious that the same people who said they would suck this year are now trying to criticize them for not going " all in" to win a Lombardi this year. They are total frauds.

 

[Ring 6]

It's hilarious that the same people who said they would suck this year are now trying to criticize them for not going " all in" to win a Lombardi this year. They are total frauds.

“The Patriots stink they will be lucky to win 5 games”
The patriots are 7-2.
“I was wrrrrrr, I was wrrrrr, 7-2 is phony because the schedule and they know it and knotty can’t win. They will be lucky to get to 9 wins”
It’s fine though, once we make the playoffs, we will have one less mosquito