NFL Trade Deadline Discourse

[ctpatsfan77]

I have to think the competition would be fierce. Every team with playoff aspirations and cap room would want him. He’s signed for two more years money comparable to Milton Williams minus signing bonus; big dollars but good value.

And at this point, given that owners have to sign off on trades, I wonder if Strunk would be willing to trade him to NE even if they did make the best offer. . . .

 

[Wozzy]

And If we play em and beat em everybody and Granny knows. You know how that goes.

The Bills defense isn’t very good or talented. Assuming health and continued development the Pats are a better team.

The Chiefs rounding into form scare me more.

 

[PatsFan2]

The Bills defense isn’t very good or talented. Assuming health and continued development the Pats are a better team.

The Chiefs rounding into form scare me more.

They got WR Rashee Rice back: to go along with Hollywood Brown and X-Worthy. Plus Tyquan and Juju...that's a really good bunch of Receivers. Can't say I'm not a little jealous. Hope the Chargers and Broncos keep the pressure on. Of course I wouldn't bet on any of them over Mahomes.

 

[Wozzy]

They got WR Rashee Rice back: to go along with Hollywood Brown and X-Worthy. Plus Tyquan and Juju...that's a really good bunch of Receivers. Can't say I'm not a little jealous. Hope the Chargers and Broncos keep the pressure on. Of course I wouldn't bet on any of them over Mahomes.

Harbaugh might need one more offseason and draft class to get the Chargers where they need to be, mainly that defense.

I’m not sold on Bo Nix, sure he doesn’t turn it over that much but he isn’t exactly Dan Marino throwing the ball either. His yards per attempt is feeble. Could Payton get the most out of him, sure, he already is. But can Nix pass successfully against the best defenses in the playoffs? It’s at least questionable. The Broncos defense is for real, that puts them in every game.

The Chiefs are better than either of them IMO, even if their record to start the season didn’t reflect that. Much the same way the Pats record should be better than it is.

 

[NFL Mystique]

The 2001 Pats didn't have a chance against the Greatest Show on Turf. How did that work out??

Can't totally compare it to nearly 25 years ago. Only because the league has shifted so much to offense. Back then, teams could mug receivers and the RB was a huge focal point.

Nonetheless, in a year where underdogs have covered/won a fair amount, it's crazy that he thought the Patriots stood no chance. Chiefs receiver fumbles, Chiefs throw a pick six, Patriots find a hole in their D. There are so many moving parts to an NFL game. Total opposite of basketball.

 

[PatsFan2]

Can't totally compare it to nearly 25 years ago. Only because the league has shifted so much to offense. Back then, teams could mug receivers and the RB was a huge focal point.

Nonetheless, in a year where underdogs have covered/won a fair amount, it's crazy that he thought the Patriots stood no chance. Chiefs receiver fumbles, Chiefs throw a pick six, Patriots find a hole in their D. There are so many moving parts to an NFL game. Total opposite of basketball.

What the Patriots have going for then right now is Consistency... there's no substitute for that. When you have consistency on your side: it's any given Sunday or Monday night.

 

[NFL Mystique]

Harbaugh might need one more offseason and draft class to get the Chargers where they need to be, mainly that defense.

I’m not sold on Bo Nix, sure he doesn’t turn it over that much but he isn’t exactly Dan Marino throwing the ball either. His yards per attempt is feeble. Could Payton get the most out of him, sure, he already is. But can Nix pass successfully against the best defenses in the playoffs? It’s at least questionable. The Broncos defense is for real, that puts them in every game.

The Chiefs are better than either of them IMO, even if their record to start the season didn’t reflect that. Much the same way the Pats record should be better than it is.

The AFC is pretty weak and there is no Peyton Manning or great Steelers D (04-08) standing in their way. Buffalo is the only team with a shot because of the QB. But I do not see it happening with that defense and HC.

In a SB, I think the Eagles would be the toughest opponent. They match up well with KC and are familiar with them. Lions are obvious. Though, Dan Campbell worries me. I could see him going for a 4th and 3 from his own 10, down one score, lots of time left. Over aggressiveness/panic.

Edit: I forgot the Rams!!! They have the coaching/QB/receivers and RB to go toe to toe with them. They are a sneaky good team getting underrated.

 

[PatsFan2]

Where's that PreGame game Thread??

 

[TommyD4207]

Where's that PreGame game Thread??

sb started it again, and since he's blocked by more than half the board at this point, it's probably hidden.

Which, by the way, is the argument against 'Just mute the poster/ignore the thread'.

 

[NFL Mystique]

sb started it again, and since he's blocked by more than half the board at this point, it's probably hidden.

Which, by the way, is the argument against 'Just mute the poster/ignore the thread'.

Unignore them for the GDT then put them back on block. Next week, do the same.

But I see your point.

 

[mgteich]

When did he show anything? Looks like Uche 2.0

???

You are comparing someone who can't make the 53 to someone who has been on NFL team rosters for SEVEN seasons?

Swinson DREAMS of having a 7+ year NFL career.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

Unignore them for the GDT then put them back on block. Next week, do the same.

But I see your point.

Too stupid to put them back.
Seriously, stupidity is something I have zero patience with.

 

[Grogan14]

Vrabel is a conservative guy when it comes to trading away draft picks.
He is building this team with an eye to the future.
I just do not see him making any major trades other than perhaps a 5th or 6th rounder at most for a player like Ford from the browns.

 

[DaBruinz]

If Campbell or Moses go down you are good with Vederian Lowe or Bryant? Can’t say I am.

And I'm sure you've seen SO MUCH of Bryant as a PRO to make that determination.. NOT.

Bryant has had 11 total snaps in subbing for Moses. Both were at the end of games. At worst, he's an unknown. But he did beat out 3 others to secure the back-up Swing Tackle spot.

Lowe is a bottom 32 starter.. Not preferable, but better when coming off the bench. And, surprisingly did IMPROVE from year to year. The Pats are like 90% of the rest of the league, currently. They would be struggling if they had to move a bench Tackle into the starting role. Gone are the days when teams like the Pats could lose 4 OT to injury and STILL have 2 OTs that were better than average. Before you question me on this. In 2003 and 2004, the Pats put 4 OTs onto IR. over the course of the year.

 

[DaBruinz]

I have not one time mentioned trade terms... But to not even consider the possibility of replacing Wilson in the starting lineup, at Any price, is ****ing moronic. Kyle Williams isn't seeing many snaps, so what about his "development"? Or Farmer's at DT?

Hey Cap. - Maybe try doing some research instead of running your mouth and looking like a fool.

Farmer is averaging 16 snaps a game currently.
Wililams is averaging almost 11 snaps a game.

They're rookies. That's to be expected.

 

[DaBruinz]

Did I see all star poster Zuma say Lowe is average?...

Average BACK-UP. Go get some new glasses.

 

[Gumby]

We may have had some unrealistic hopes for Henderson and K. Williams this season. Hopefully with a full season and off season in the pros they can really start to tap into thier potential next season.. I don't see or feel it happening this year..

All is not lost, …… 17 game season is like almost 2 college seasons.

Some of other rookies may be tired by game 14.
due to lack of use, these two might just be rounding into /developed to season 2 form by game 15, just in time for the playoffs.

 

[Dec54]

Albert Breer predicted 8 wins this season. He doesn’t know what a talented team looks like.

So did others and it was a reasonable assumption.

 

[Dec54]

I remember Sims and Florio interviewing Bo Nix. I was quite impressed with him, even if I still wanted to draft Maye. Sims was all over Nix just loved him.
His QB rankings for the draft were
Williams
Daniels
Nix
Penix
McCarthy
Maye

Yes Maye at six. Just goes to show, we all can be wrong at times.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

So did others and it was a reasonable assumption.

Yes it was a reasonable assumption.

I think the previous point was since Breer is a football "expert" on the radio and TV, his knowledge should extend beyond that of reasonableness to insightful.

If the Pats win 10 games, then an 8 game prediction shows limited insight. If the Pats win 11 games, then a 8 game prediction shows very little insight, if any at all.