Patriots Player Departure Polk traded to Saints

[Since1960]

We only get a pick swap for a 6th round pick while giving up a 7th. What a disastrous waste of a 2nd. And think about it if we just stay put we could have had Mcconkey.

Our WR scouting department feels SUS. I’m surprised the Patriots didn’t overhaul it entirely when Vrabel took over.

I'm still shocked at how bad of a pick this was. If we simply sat tight and made the no brainer pick of McConkey we would have improved depth at the WR position.

Let's review the original trade:

The Patriots gave up No. 34 and No. 137, getting No. 37 and No. 110 back in return.

Patriots outcome

#37 WR Ja'Lynn Polk - Traded for a 6th round pick
#110 WR Javon Baker - Released but signed by Eagles

Chargers outcome

#34 WR Ladd McConkey - 1149 yards 7 TDs rookie season
#137 CB Tarheeb Still - 12 games started 4 INTs rookie season

Not only did we make the wrong pick with Polk, the Chargers got a better player with the trade down, a CB who actually contributed to their defense.

We traded away Polk for a 6th and he was on season ending IR. We cut Baker who got signed away for free by the Eagles. Chargers essentially drafted two starters.

So we LOST both parts of the trade. Simply terrible drafting.

But we did get one year of *excellence* from the guy with the self described “best hands in the league” and it only cost a 2nd round pick….

 

[TinhWoodhead]

you can put a polk in it

 

[UGAPatsfan]

Dawgs drive a stake in Tenn once again.

Yeah that has to be crushing for TN. If ever there was a year to beat GA it’s this year. SUPER young team, inexperienced and avg QB (though kid grew up some today and made some tough plays), defense playing as bad as I’ve ever seen…up 21-7 after 1 quarter and STILL lose to GA.

 

[captain stone]

For those who enjoy that feeling of getting kicked in the nuts…

 

[captain stone]

OK, why did you not post the 2023 and 2025 drafts instead?

He should indeed have posted the 2023 draft. Because that one ****ing Sucked too.

 

[captain stone]

The only sense it made is that they liked a bunch of receivers equally, and didn't know what to do, so they decided to be good with the one left, while adding another pick.

If that was truly the case, then that's piss-poor evaluation. Fireable.

 

[dliverey44]

Vrabel is getting rid of Mayo and Wolfs guys,

Maye I thought he was our QB for the next 10 years but not sure now.

I think White could be in trouble, or maybe they try to keep developing him.

But Vrabel is systematically moving on from players he didn’t sign off on.

Is Maye next??

 

[Wozzy]

When Wolf’s contract ends it will be the last vestiges of the collaboration… which should die and never be seen again.

Jonathan should hire well, shut up and let the professionals do their job.

 

[Triumph]

Yeah that has to be crushing for TN. If ever there was a year to beat GA it’s this year. SUPER young team, inexperienced and avg QB (though kid grew up some today and made some tough plays), defense playing as bad as I’ve ever seen…up 21-7 after 1 quarter and STILL lose to GA.

Peyton Manning was there.

I knew that TN kicker was going to miss.

 

[SteveKiner]

More what we did with the trade down rather than the other team.

As not a youngster it was one of the worst picks ever, but not as bad as Kenneth Simms or Football Phil Olsen.

Going way back to 1970, the Pats gave up their 1st round pick in 1972 and starting defensive back John Charles who was their 1st round pick in 1967 to the Vikings for the rights to QB Joe Kapp. Kapp missed the first 4 games of that year during his hold out. When he finally joined the Pats (after the Pats made him the hghest paid player in the NFL), Kapp proceded to lead the Pats to a 1-9 record completing 45% of his passes while throwing for 3 TD's and 17 INT's. Kapp refused to sign another NFL contract after this year and ended up sucessfully suing the NFL. I think that might trump all the bad draft trades ever made.

 

[sb1]

OK, why did you not post the 2023 and 2025 drafts instead?

I said 2025 was promising. 2023…meh. IMO

 

[mgteich]

OK, why did you not post the 2023 and 2025 drafts instead?

The poster apparently wanted to show that our terrible recent drafts resulted in our lack of talent. The poster did that by choosing a sample of two years.

If the poster had chosen 2023 and 2025 instead, the conclusion might be that our drafts were so excellent that they provided excellent talent for the team.

 

[mgteich]

He should indeed have posted the 2023 draft. Because that one ****ing Sucked too.

so you believe

 

[ctpatsfan77]

More bad news.

Mac Jones is starting tomorrow vs the Saints.

The pick is in 2027, so it doesn't matter. [FWIW, the pick they're giving up is a 7 in 2028.]

 

[PatsFan2]

Yup.

Imagine getting Purdy in 2022 we had so many shots to get him. Zappe Fourth Rounder: that was the Draft I was DONE with BB in my head.

 

[PatsFan2]

The pick is in 2027, so it doesn't matter. [FWIW, the pick they're giving up is a 7 in 2028.]

Wow we couldn't even get a 7th next year: the Saints are going stink this Year.

 

[Ring 6]

He forced their hand. Vrabel was clearly pissed and had the body language that he wanted to release him. By Polk telling the media this and having it go public, the Pats aren't going to want to repeat what happened last season - things were said and then the opposite occurred.

There is absolutely no way that Vrabel wanted to release him and didn’t because Polk told the media he is going on IR. Absolutely zero chance. There is no reason at all that Vrabel would care what Polk told the media.

The tail doesn’t wag the dog

However, it is against NFL rules to cut an injured player without a settllement so if he was legitimately injured Vrabel had no choice.

There was no evidence of Vrabel being pissed.

It’s like dreamt this and think it’s real.

 

[Real fan 02]

It depends on how much contract the Saints absorbed. Polks 2025 salary and 2026 salary were fully guaranteed.

Maybe additional NE cap space is the silver lining in this mess because a 2nd and 7th for a 6th is a joke.

Did we get a 7th for dog dogChaux as well??

 

[Real fan 02]

Wow we couldn't even get a 7th next year: the Saints are going stink this Year.

Did we get a 7th for DogCheaux as well?.

 

[TomPatriot]

Did we get a 7th for DogCheaux as well?.

Yup. That’s the Saints’ 7th in the next draft.