ChatGPT predicts Patriots' 2025 season results and key player stats

[Huckleberry1]

Nothing written here has anything to do with setting them up to fail, deliberate or not. That's a staggering bit of self importance.

I disagree. There is, and always has been a contingency of Patriot for whom no amount of success is ever enough, they even complained throughout the 20 year dynasty, and acted as though getting to the Super wasn’t good enough, they had to win it every year. I’m not saying Rainmaker was one of those fans, because I don’t remember that being the case. However those fans set the bar so high every year that if they didn’t win the Super Bowl they claimed the season was a failure. This year they are coming off an atrocious season, but had a really good offseason, so optimism is high for most of us, and I think pretty much everyone is hoping to see them competing for a Wild Card spot late in the season. And I think we will be disappointed if they don’t get one, but that’s different than saying it will be a failure if they don’t. In truth they were the worst team in football last season, and the only reason they didn’t have the first pick was because Buffalo threw that game so they wouldn’t get the first pick. So imo expecting them to go from being the worst team in football to being in the playoffs, and considering anything less a “ failure” is setting them up to fail. If you disagree with that feel free to explain why, I’ll be interested to hear it.

 

[50-yard-line]

There's no "I" in AI.

It's a regurgitation-based maximum GOOGLE-type search without any understanding of writer intent, sarcasm, polemic, or anything else that might crop up in the spaghetti=winding interwebs.

It functions well as an aid in specific areas with secluded data sets. Beyond that, it's a multi-trillion $$$ hedge bet that we're all going to have to pay for as it continues to fail. And it will dumb us down in the process.

 

[signbabybrady]

There's no "I" in AI.

It's a regurgitation-based maximum GOOGLE-type search without any understanding of writer intent, sarcasm, polemic, or anything else that might crop up in the spaghetti=winding interwebs.

It functions well as an aid in specific areas with secluded data sets. Beyond that, it's a multi-trillion $$$ hedge bet that we're all going to have to pay for as it continues to fail. And it will dumb us down in the process.

 

[TheRainMaker]

We're all guessing at this point, and my guess is that the Pats will be middle of the road at best. If they do better than that I'll be glad to admit I was wr, wr, wr, wrong.

A lot would have to happen for them to be middle of the road. Maye would have to be mediocre and show no improvement, Barmore sufferers another blood clot, and their FA/draft class is a bust.

I'll be ecstatic if Maye turns into the real deal. He really hasn't yet.

Agree, but I expect a big jump this season.

As for any other team's rise from the cellar, none of them were as bad as the 2024 Pats. They were historically bad.

They weren't as bad as advertised. They were still in games we didn't think they'd be in and had chances to win. That team should've gone 0-17, but the NFL is so bad today they won 3 games before the Buffalo gift.

There is, and always has been a contingency of Patriot for whom no amount of success is ever enough, they even complained throughout the 20 year dynasty, and acted as though getting to the Super wasn’t good enough, they had to win it every year. I’m not saying Rainmaker was one of those fans, because I don’t remember that being the case.

After 2004, the Pats were the closest thing to the 90's Bulls where opposing fans dreaded having their team face the Pats, rooted for them to lose and were getting sick of them winning. They were the class of the NFL and it continued on until 2019. My expectations for them were to win the Super Bowl or it was a failure. They were that good.

After Tom left, my expectations plummeted. Now they are back up. The Pats had a good off-season and Maye is in his 2nd season in a league that is QB friendly. 9 wins based on their schedule is not much to ask for. The league is really bad compared to what it used to be.

 

[lancerman]

So it sounds like AI can't evaluate football.

You can't predict a top 3 offense, along with a good defense and also predict only 10 wins.

Well really it sounds like AI just sucks at evaluation in general.

Because it doesn't matter what the topic. If you predict that X will perform good to great on all relevant metrics, but then produce a mediocre result that's weird.

To get more context I just used ChatGPT to predict the Pats season.

It predicts 9 or 10 wins. The reason being is that it's probabilities give the Pats an 8 to 11 win range.

 

[Force Zero Boomer]

AI has the value system and opinions of those who program it… so no, I don’t trust AI implicitly, double check and recheck.

The picture is far more complex with that because AI systems are by far the most complex software artifacts ever created. Here's what these companies *try* to do to keep AI inside the box:

- They control the composition of the training corpus to create the AI that they want. But when your corpus contains millions and millions of documents and your model contains 100s of billions of parameters, the activity itself is the subject of active research. What they get is often not want they want or expect, and it can be impossible to tell at release time.

- They control the system level prompts that preface every query, trying to keep the user and the community "safe" and keep the response inside the guardrails. This is notoriously ineffective, because the AI's core goal is to help the user, even if it means bending the rules.

- Pre- and post-filtering of queries and responses. Simple text matches on these are usually extremely ineffective. They are often removed because they block legitimate queries.

No one should trust AI implicitly (you'd be a fool to), but no one should say that AI reflects that values and opinions of its creators. They try to make it that way, but they just can't keep it in their box. I've had an AI walk me through getting around some guardrails. Humans have finally created something they can't contain or predict.

 

[Dec54]

I’ll wait for camp and preseason to shake out, see what the depth chart looks like…. then I’ll give you a prediction. It’s too early.

You can always change your mind later on.

 

[Dec54]

Well....**** that....

Gimme AI who says we win the Superbowl!!!

It would explode

 

[Thelonious]

Uhhhh. The Polk thing is weird, real weird. His selling point was that he is not elite in any particular way, but that he was definitely going to be a reliable, high-floor type of player. Instead, he was...I'm not sure what. Some sort of ghost?

I can't dismiss entirely the possibility that he was so ill-used and ill-coached by last year's disastrously incompetent coaching staff that he was literally prevented from developing or showing what he can do. The further we get from the Mayo Experience, the more outlandishly bad we realize it was. I never thought there was much substance to Mayo - a pleasant guy who uttered pleasant but empty things but got lost when he had to say anything of actual substance, and couldn't make a decision to save his soul: sort of an empty suit without the suit. But it was even worse than that. Not only was he useless: he was actually damaging.

Could an inferior HC and an inferior coaching staff account in part for Polk's no-show performance? It reminds me of the Mac Jones thing. Was Mac himself responsible for his demise, or was a fading and childishly vindictive and petty Bill mostly to blame? Likely it was a shared effort, two guys working in tandem to ensure nothing worthwhile would develop. Yikes. Bill may have become a once-was, but Mayo was a No Way from the start. Robert should have consulted more than the pittypat of his besotted heart before making that hire.

As for ChatGP, I just started using it...warily. I think of it as a sort of interactive search engine. Used that way it is remarkably useful. As for its skill in evaluating football teams or, as I gather some are using it, as a guide for how to make decisions in one's life (or cheat at homework, so that one can remain ignorant), No Thanks.

 

[Thelonious]

Here’s an AI generated image of a Nazi.

I guess even the Nazi's a re into Affirmative Action now. Not to worry, he's probably not really qualified for the job.

 

[signbabybrady]

Here’s an AI generated image of a Nazi.

 

[fnordcircle]

I appreciate when people post chat logs with LLMs as though there's something meaningful in them because it's like "Thanks for making sure I know to never, ever take this person seriously when it comes to tech."

LLMs aren't even good calculators ffs.

 

[Drunken Cicerone]

If those numbers wind up being close you have an offensive juggernaut putting up over 6500 total yards on offense.