Caedan Wallace?

[Wozzy]

Jacobs has the protoypical size for OT and especially the 36" arm length but not the athleticism- which is what we saw vs the 49ers. Broncos liked him, too and improved year 2 but clearly not enough as they cut him, but immediately signed him to their PS.

Maybe hes a PS emergency guy for us.

I don't quite agree, he has good athleticism. What he really lacked leaving college was strength. That's one of the few athletic traits one can fix. Where he really lacks as a player is his technique, he's either really dumb or really lazy.

Like you said, he is wider than a house... but he doesn't play with his feet. He is slow to react, then he reaches and grabs.

If a line coach and a strength coach could get through to him, he could be a starter, but this far along in his professional journey we have to wonder if the lightbulb will ever come on.

 

[mgteich]

Jacobs has the protoypical size for OT and especially the 36" arm length but not the athleticism- which is what we saw vs the 49ers. Broncos liked him, too and improved year 2 but clearly not enough as they cut him, but immediately signed him to their PS.

Maybe hes a PS emergency guy for us.

Yes, Jacobs has a role on the Practice Squad. If we were to carry 5, Jacobs could be on the 53.

TACKLES
LT: draftee, Lowe
RT: Moses, Wallace
PS: Jacobs

 

[Wozzy]

Wallace isn't a guard, his mobility/agility is crap.... so can we stop saying that. Thanks.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I don't quite agree, he has good athleticism. What he really lacked leaving college was strength. That's one of the few athletic traits one can fix. Where he really lacks as a player is his technique, he's either really dumb or really lazy.

Like you said, he is wider than a house... but he doesn't play with his feet. He is slow to react, then he reaches and grabs.

If a coach and a strength and conditioning coach could get through to him, he could be a starter, but this far along in his professional journey we have to wonder if the lightbulb will ever come on.

Yea his bench press and vertical was **** but you are correct. His 3 cone was 7.52 which is a bit more than what you want for an OT but not awful.

 

[Wozzy]

Yea his bench press and vertical was **** but you are correct. His 3 cone was 7.52 which is a bit more than what you want for an OT but not awful.

Yeah, his forty, shuttle and cone were okay. But like you said his vertical and broad jump were terrible, this could explain his lack of explosiveness out of his stance. Some guys are just content making it to the NFL, others want to be great. Jacobs has to want it, he just looks like he doesn't care. It's too bad, his length and size is a gift... he's wasting it.

 

[State]

I still hold out hope Wallace can be at least adequate at RT—I have no such expectation for him at LT—especially under the beneficial influence of Moses.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Wallace isn't a guard, his mobility/agility is crap.... so can we stop saying that. Thanks.

Wallace's mobility and agility are crap so he is a RT candidate, not a RG candidate? LOL

 

[Wozzy]

Wallace's mobility and agility are crap so he is a RT candidate, not a RG candidate? LOL

Yes, guards are asked to pull more often. And frankly I don’t have high expectations for Wallace at tackle either.

 

[PatsFan2]

Wallace isn't a guard, his mobility/agility is crap.... so can we stop saying that. Thanks.

We are double dipping at Offensive Tackle.

 

[signbabybrady]

Wallace isn't a guard, his mobility/agility is crap.... so can we stop saying that. Thanks.

Do you want to tell Wolf?

 

[Wozzy]

Do you want to tell Wolf?

Wolf thought Okorafor, Leverett and Jordan were good… I don’t think he’ll listen.

 

[DaBruinz]

Michal Fatwenu is thanking Wolf and Mayo daily he probably erected a shrine to both of them.

You've jumped the shark to the point that you make Capt Stone look intelligent. You've become a complete waste of space on the board.

 

[DaBruinz]

If Jacobs or Lowe make the 53 (let alone start) at any point in 2025, it will be a concern. Those two are not nfl players. I'd rather get another developmental player on the roster or practice squad and let Jacobs and Lowe go fishing.

You're another one who has no idea what you are talking about. 2 players who are no better than Lowe just signed BIG contracts in the league. Maybe learn something about the NFL game before making such uninformed comments. They show that you can't be taken seriously.

Lowe may not be a top 15 or 20 OT, but he IS an NFL player.

 

[DaBruinz]

Wolf thought Okorafor, Leverett and Jordan were good… I don’t think he’ll listen.

Okorafor tanked because of Mayo / AVP. He said as much. I think it's a garbage excuse but we also saw the disfunction from those two all year.

Belichick brought in Jordan. He was a back-up.

Leverett was brought in because he had experience in Tampa as a reserve center.

Judging the players based on the crap coaching we had is a recipe for disaster.

I have said that Wolf doesn't know how to build a team. He doesn't. Mayo/AVP don't either. The combination resulted in more O-linemen going through the locker-room than any 3 years under Belichick. Which should tell you exactly how bad the 3 of them are.

We can only hope that Vrabel / Cowden can get Wolf focused so we don't have another horrid draft ala 2022. The team can't afford it.

 

[DaBruinz]

Honestly? If they could get a 3rd rounder or early 4th for Onwenu AND get out of that awful contract this draft I’d do it.

He isn’t a special guard by any metrics. Wallace, Strange, or a rookie could likely replace him adequately. My hunch is the contract they gave him assumed he’s be a RT…we know how that turned out.

Your "hunch" is not based in reality. Try looking at the actual contracts for other RGs in the league when Onwenu was given his extension. It made hum the 3rd highest paid RG. This was pointed out the day he SIGNED that extension Just because you chose to ignore it doesn't mean wasn't the truth.

Onwenu was top 5 when he was at RG and not made to play out of position at RT or LG. That's FACT and REALITY.

Blaming Onwenu for the team not having an adequate RT the past 3 seasons is ridiculous. Thinking that any schlub draft pick could come in and replace him was shown to be BS with Robinson's complete failure last year.

 

[DaBruinz]

Those numbers are way off Ken, Their pressure rate was close to 50%, and their running backs were only averaging 1 yard before contact. They had the worst OL in football.

No, Ken's numbers aren't "way off". According to PFF, Maye saw "pressure" on 37.4% of his drop backs. Ken said 10% resulted in sacks and 20% in hurries. 10% + 20% = 30%. Ken didn't mention hits.

Now, PFF used total drop backs, which I don't believe is a correct measure. But I copied the first part of their chart. The first two lines are the most important. The 2nd two lines are a break-down of the

Maye saw 34 sacks (10.05%) , 5 hits (1.5%) , and 57 hurries (16.9%) on the 96 attempts "under pressure".

The 96 attempts is 28.4% of his 338 attempts.

It's not great, but it's not "nearly 50%" as you stated.

Interesting quirk. 7 QBs actually saw MORE pressure on dropbacks than Maye. Those 7 are Hurts, Stroud, Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson, Sam Darnold, Geno Smith and Bryce Young. Stroud, Hurts, WIlson and Darnold also had a higher percentage of pressures become sacks.

What we know is that the Pats O-line is going to have at least 3 new starters. A 4th if Strange is traded or if he's beat out for the LG position. So, everything we saw in 2024 is basically meaningless.

 

[Wozzy]

Okorafor tanked because of Mayo / AVP. He said as much. I think it's a garbage excuse but we also saw the disfunction from those two all year.

Okorafor sucked, got benched and quit on the team. He blamed Pittsburgh for his failure on the way out the door as well.

He was a poor athlete, it’s only a matter of time before he is out of the league entirely.

Belichick brought in Jordan. He was a back-up.

Wrong, Wolf signed Jordan in 2024. The. year prior he was on the Packers practice squad. He was a worthless signing. Dead weight.

Leverett was brought in because he had experience in Tampa as a reserve center.

Where he stunk, like these ^ other two. But all three have long arms to go with their poor athleticism, so we know what Wolf’s fatal flaw in lineman evaluation is.

Judging the players based on the crap coaching we had is a recipe for disaster.

I have said that Wolf doesn't know how to build a team. He doesn't. Mayo/AVP don't either. The combination resulted in more O-linemen going through the locker-room than any 3 years under Belichick. Which should tell you exactly how bad the 3 of them are.

It starts with hiring good athletic players, not terrible ones and assuming you can fix them.

We can only hope that Vrabel / Cowden can get Wolf focused so we don't have another horrid draft ala 2022. The team can't afford it.

They’ve already done a much better job than last year, there’s a vision and a priority on athleticism.