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[Family]

We'll see Fam: I am taking this Josh Allen over Lamar Jackson 24/7.

I would too.

The discussion is would you take Harbaugh over McDermott, and how much this great coach continues the Buffalo tradition?

 

[PatsFan2]

I would too.

The discussion is would you take Harbaugh over McDermott.

I have nothing against McDermott he has owned our Division... I think he's a very good HC and the reason why the Krafts want someone of relevance at our HC helm. I am a huge fan of the Harbaugh's let's see if either can beat Mahomes when it counts.

 

[Family]

I have nothing against McDermott he has owned our Division...

Josh Allen has owned our division.

 

[PatsFan2]

Josh Allen has owned our division.

I would hang on to Josh Allen's coattail too.

 

[PatsFan2]

??

The Bills are not really talented. They do what the Patriots used to do, and that's build depth across the organization. Who are the Bills All-Pros?

They don't have stars. They have a solid team.

I want one of those Young TE's in 25 either Colston Loveland - Terrance Ferguson - Mason Taylor or Gunnar Helm. I am not huge fan of Hunter H.

 

[upstater1]

I want one of those Young TE's in 25 either Colston Loveland - Terrance Ferguson - Mason Taylor or Gunnar Helm. I am not huge fan of Hunter H.

Sure, a young TE would help, but dont expect him to get open like Henry does

 

[p8ryts]

I want one of those Young TE's in 25 either Colston Loveland - Terrance Ferguson - Mason Taylor or Gunnar Helm. I am not huge fan of Hunter H.

I'm satisfied with Hunter and Hoover for this year, but they are long in the tooth. I would like to see a really good blocking TE.

 

[PatsFan2]

Sure, a young TE would help, but dont expect him to get open like Henry does

I am just a little envious of the Bills TE Dalton Kincaid I think he's going become a household name in the Playoffs.

 

[raduray]

OK, we know???

Let us say that DET wins the championship and CHI and NE haven't made a choice. in a couple of days.

Should Vrabel wait and HOPE that Kraft won't take Johnson and CHI takes someone else? After all, until the CHI choice the patriots will be fine if they are OK with either. Obviously, if it is clear that CHI also wants Vrabel or Johnson, then all parties can wait until after the Super Bowl.

Vrabel could reasonably pressure the team to make a decision or Vrabel will need to go elsewhere rather than be out of a top job.

My understanding, based on an article in The Athletic, is that the Pats can hire a coordinator such as Ben Johnson for head coach while his team is still in contention in the playoffs, but the announcement can't be made official until that team either loses or wins the SB. However, the news would leak. I assume the new hire would then be able to make moves to build the coaching staff while still in the playoffs.

 

[TommyD4207]

My understanding, based on an article in The Athletic, is that the Pats can hire a coordinator such as Ben Johnson for head coach while his team is still in contention in the playoffs, but the announcement can't be made official until that team either loses or wins the SB. However, the news would leak. I assume the new hire would then be able to make moves to build the coaching staff while still in the playoffs.

This. It's amazing how soon people forget, that Josh McDaniels was referred to as 'the next head coach of the Colts' during games.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I want one of those Young TE's in 25 either Colston Loveland - Terrance Ferguson - Mason Taylor or Gunnar Helm. I am not huge fan of Hunter H.

Don't forget Tyler Warren. His versatility would serve the team well.

 

[PatsFan2]

Don't forget Tyler Warren. His versatility would serve the team well.

Tyler Warren is a Sure First Rounder and we have other pressing Needs. That's why I left him out: Small school Prospect Harold Fannin jr might be something.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Tyler Warren is a Sure First Rounder and we have other pressing Needs. That's why I left him out: Small school Prospect Harold Fannin jr might be something.

Yea mid/late 1st rd seems to be where he'll be drafted.

 

[Family]

I am using your scale. You said he should have won solely because of who his qb is. I said on your scale he shouldn’t have because he lost to better QBs. There are zero excuses on what I said.
McDermott track record speaks for itself (as does Dabolls). He has done a good job.

You introduced a reason he didn’t and I am pointing out that according to your own criteria he can’t be criticized.

You think losing a player should guarantee he wins a SB? Where has history shown over and over again that something like that guarantees a championship? Do you have examples? All the I ex I can think of shazier, stingley, the Detroit guy that almost died, Dennis Byrd didn’t lead to championships. I think you are grasping at straws.

I gave no clue what the Red Sox have to do with this.

McDermott took over a team that had made the playoffs ZERO TIMES IN SEVENTEEN YEARS and hadn’t won their division in 21.
He took them to the playoffs his first season, and 7 of the 8 he has been there. He has won the division 5 years running.

Looks like an incredible turnaround to me.

Your argument is that he stinks because in 7 years he hasn’t yet been the best of all 32 teams. You do realize that by saying this you are essentially saying almost every current HC sucks because there are less than I can count on one hand who won a sb in their first 7 years.

But Brian Daboll is a stud

I said I was done with the discussion, and I am, but since we're bros I thought it was rude to leave you hanging.

So outside the discussion I'm on record:

Bills win the Super Bowl- obviously I'm wrong
Bills make the Super Bowl - The Daboll discussion is ridiculous to have.
Bills make AFC Championship - ok McDermott gets another year, but he's still shown me little. You'll have excuses for the loss
.
If The Bills get knocked out by the Ravens in the Divisional round. What will you say? Will you tell me about some Josh Allen injury that is likely the result of McDermott's insane coaching.

Will you still be quoting me stats? Of course. You won't see what type of coach he is until he has a team without Josh Allen, and no one will care anymore about him. He'll be viewed as worse than Jeff Fischer. Everyone will forget or not care about the discussion.

In other words you're never wrong.

It is a bit ironic because you would never accept these results from a hometown coach who had Josh Allen talent. But that's another story.

I fanned up. I'm on record. When do you admit that any Brian Daboll could do at least as good or better than McDermott has done? What does it take for you?

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

Not that you claimed there wasn't, but there's a huge gulf between a very successful coordinator and Jerod Mayo. A successful coordinator has already demonstrated many of the proficiencies required to be a successful HC. Obviously the scope is larger as HC. This is like a COO taking over for a CEO. Jerod was like an accountant in Finance taking over for the CEO (and that's being generous to Jerod, I was going to say janitor, since he actually demonstrated NONE of the core competencies required).

My experiences have been that CEO, CFO, CIO etc all do jack ****…

 

[Love The Drake]

Raiders firing Telesco, Tom is either fearing for Vrabel with more power than we will give him, Johnson with his GM choicez

Tom isn’t playing.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

Raiders firing Telesco, Tom is either fearing for Vrabel with more power than we will give him, Johnson with his GM choicez

Tom isn’t playing.

Dumb move. Telesco is a good GM.

 

[PWRxWLF]

Dumb move. Telesco is a good GM.

What’s he done? Genuine question.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

What’s he done? Genuine question.

First 2 rounds in his one year as Vegas GM:

1) Bowers
2) Powers-Johnson

 

[TommyD4207]

Don't forget Tyler Warren. His versatility would serve the team well.

Elijah Arroyo would be the only TE I'd want in the first round. That kid's going to be a superstar.