Does anyone think there is a chance Mayo is one and done?

[The Gr8est]

At some point, I'm not sure when, Bob Kraft crossed over from competent NFL franchise owner to addled old man. His infatuation with Mayo was/is purely emotion-driven illogic, which Mayo took advantage of.

I dunno about your conspiracy idea. Vrabel did interview for other 2024 HC jobs.

Mike Vrabel left without head coach job as 2024 hiring cycle wraps up: Reasons why he might've missed the cut

Vrabel will not be on the sidelines as a head coach in 2024

www.cbssports.com

Competent NFL owner?

 

[Lagaffe_07]

Robert Kraft is dumber than Woody Johnson and I thought that was impossible

 

[The Gr8est]

Robert Kraft is dumber than Woody Johnson and I thought that was impossible

If Kraft brings back Mayo then the fans need to vote with their feet.

Hey Bob, the emperor has no clothes, and you are the only one who doesn’t see it.

 

[Love The Drake]

Looks like we are all drinking heavier this new years.

 

[Love The Drake]

If Kraft brings back Mayo then the fans need to vote with their feet.

Hey Bob, the emperor has no clothes, and you are the only one who doesn’t see it.

I was just going to post the emperor has no clothes you beat me to it.

 

[sportnik]

If Kraft brings back Mayo then the fans need to vote with their feet.

Hey Bob, the emperor has no clothes, and you are the only one who doesn’t see it.

If RKK brings back Mayo, anyone who renews season tickets is complicit in the demise of this once great franchise.

 

[Tunescribe]

Competent NFL owner?

Past tense. The team did reach nine Super Bowls on his watch.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

I'm just not sure I see it with Vrabel the way others do.

He got the TEN job coming off a 1 year stint as the DC for a 2017 Texans team that ranked last in points allowed during that year.

The Titans in 2016 and 2017 were 9-7 with Mike Mularkey as the head coach. Vrabel took them over and in 2018 and 2019, again went 9-7. In 2019, that was the year they upset us in the WC round and beat BAL in the divisional round before losing to KC in the championship game.

It looked like that was going to be a huge springboard for them. The next year they started 5-0, then went 6-5 the rest of the way to end up at 11-5 and lost in the WC round. In 2020, they started out 8-2 before kind of sputtering out at 4-3 the rest of the way before losing in the WC round again. In 2022, they fell to 7-10 and then 6-11 in 2023. And during that time, there were reports of internal conflict in the organization.

It's not like he took over a bad, rebuilding team like we are and spearheaded a turnaround. He took over a team that was kind of hovering around the playoffs and he helped get them over the hump. They also found a QB on the scrap heap (Tannenhill) who solidified the position for a few years and that gave them a nice little 3-year run of making the playoffs. But only one of those they actually won a game and the thing seemed to be crumbling under Vrabel's watch on the way out. Team was in decline, and they weren't maintaining a good working environment behind the scenes. As Tannenhill was declining they kind of made some weird QB decisions. They bounced around with offensive systems as guys left (LeFluer, Arthur Smith) and he fired Todd Downing after that.

IDK, Mayo looks like a terrible coach so far and Vrabel has had some level of success as a HC so if they make the switch it's not like I'd complain. But just looking high level at Vrabel's TEN tenure, and it doesn't feel to me like he's the right guys for this team. We're a bad team that needs to be coached up all over and put in place a quality offensive support system for a QB. Vrabel's success came on a team on the cusp of the playoffs that found a vet stop gap QB and went with a few different offensive system stints to just be passable enough on that end to make the playoffs, where they only actually had success in 1 run. And once that short run of competitiveness was over and they needed to do some level of retooling/rebuilding, Vrabel didn't seem to perform well and didn't maintain his relationships behind the scenes. It feels like a very bad fit for where we are, IMO.

 

[lancerman]

I'm just not sure I see it with Vrabel the way others do.

He got the TEN job coming off a 1 year stint as the DC for a 2017 Texans team that ranked last in points allowed during that year.

The Titans in 2016 and 2017 were 9-7 with Mike Mularkey as the head coach. Vrabel took them over and in 2018 and 2019, again went 9-7. In 2019, that was the year they upset us in the WC round and beat BAL in the divisional round before losing to KC in the championship game.

It looked like that was going to be a huge springboard for them. The next year they started 5-0, then went 6-5 the rest of the way to end up at 11-5 and lost in the WC round. In 2020, they started out 8-2 before kind of sputtering out at 4-3 the rest of the way before losing in the WC round again. In 2022, they fell to 7-10 and then 6-11 in 2023. And during that time, there were reports of internal conflict in the organization.

It's not like he took over a bad, rebuilding team like we are and spearheaded a turnaround. He took over a team that was kind of hovering around the playoffs and he helped get them over the hump. They also found a QB on the scrap heap (Tannenhill) who solidified the position for a few years and that gave them a nice little 3-year run of making the playoffs. But only one of those they actually won a game and the thing seemed to be crumbling under Vrabel's watch on the way out. Team was in decline, and they weren't maintaining a good working environment behind the scenes. As Tannenhill was declining they kind of made some weird QB decisions. They bounced around with offensive systems as guys left (LeFluer, Arthur Smith) and he fired Todd Downing after that.

IDK, Mayo looks like a terrible coach so far and Vrabel has had some level of success as a HC so if they make the switch it's not like I'd complain. But just looking high level at Vrabel's TEN tenure, and it doesn't feel to me like he's the right guys for this team. We're a bad team that needs to be coached up all over and put in place a quality offensive support system for a QB. Vrabel's success came on a team on the cusp of the playoffs that found a vet stop gap QB and went with a few different offensive system stints to just be passable enough on that end to make the playoffs, where they only actually had success in 1 run. And once that short run of competitiveness was over and they needed to do some level of retooling/rebuilding, Vrabel didn't seem to perform well and didn't maintain his relationships behind the scenes. It feels like a very bad fit for where we are, IMO.

Vrabel to me is just the comfortable familiar move, but he's not going to turn this team into a contender.

 

[fresnostatealum]

Curran just dropped this. Not really any news but as scathing of a review as you’ll see from him considering he’s talking about his buddy. If you can’t even get Curran to buy into running it all back, I don’t know how the Krafts expect the fans will take it.

Curran: Faced with crossroads, Pats must choose a clear path forward

Robert Kraft and Patriots ownership need to make a firm decision on the coaches and front office personnel who will lead this team going forward, writes Tom E. Curran.

www.nbcsportsboston.com

 

[The Gr8est]

If RKK brings back Mayo, anyone who renews season tickets is complicit in the demise of this once great franchise.

Some signs to that effect at the game could be helpful.

“If Mayo is back I’m not.”

“Keep Mayo?

Keep your season tickets.”

 

[Boomer B]

Curran just dropped this. Not really any news but as scathing of a review as you’ll see from him considering he’s talking about his buddy. If you can’t even get Curran to buy into running it all back, I don’t know how the Krafts expect the fans will take it.

Curran: Faced with crossroads, Pats must choose a clear path forward

Robert Kraft and Patriots ownership need to make a firm decision on the coaches and front office personnel who will lead this team going forward, writes Tom E. Curran.

www.nbcsportsboston.com

Great article. They took Polk because of his coaches Patriots ties - disgraceful. Wolf should be fired just for that.

 

[Ross12]

Robert Kraft is dumber than Woody Johnson and I thought that was impossible

Tony Pauline doesn’t know jack

 

[Love The Drake]

Tony Pauline doesn’t know jack

Pray you’re right.

 

[Love The Drake]

Curran just dropped this. Not really any news but as scathing of a review as you’ll see from him considering he’s talking about his buddy. If you can’t even get Curran to buy into running it all back, I don’t know how the Krafts expect the fans will take it.

Curran: Faced with crossroads, Pats must choose a clear path forward

Robert Kraft and Patriots ownership need to make a firm decision on the coaches and front office personnel who will lead this team going forward, writes Tom E. Curran.

www.nbcsportsboston.com

He didn’t come too hard on Mayo this was more about the entire organization is at a crossroads.

Which I agree

 

[PWRxWLF]

Tony Pauline doesn’t know jack

Just read on the new links that Schefty believes Mayo is back as well. Kraft and Co. aren’t ready to move on from what they perceive as a home grown talent. If true…pathetic. This team will turn into an even larger dumpster fire while the infection spreads.

 

[Love The Drake]

Tony Pauline doesn’t know jack

He just said this

REPORT

The feeling around the NFL is that Mike Vrabel is going to use the Jets’ HC vacancy as leverage to get the job he wants, which is to be the head coach of the New England Patriots, per Tony Pauline.

The Raiders are also expected to make a run for Vrabel, but he’s uninterested in that job as well.

Mike Vrabel wants to be the next HC of the Patriots.

It’s a NO BRAINER! MAKE THE MOVE ROBERT KRAFT! #LFG!!!

 

[Love The Drake]

Just read on the new links that Schefty believes Mayo is back as well. Kraft and Co. aren’t ready to move on from what they perceive as a home grown talent. If true…pathetic. This team will turn into an even larger dumpster fire while the infection spreads.

You have the Shefter link to start my new years drinking early?

 

[Love The Drake]

If I have to watch Vrabels Jets pummel us for the the next 3 seasons.

 

[PWRxWLF]

You have the Shefter link to start my new years drinking early?

Adam Schefter shares feeling on Jerod Mayo's future with Patriots

Jerod Mayo’s future could be up in the air with the New England Patriots organization after the team's 40-7 blowout loss to the Los Angeles Chargers in Week 17. Things got so bad that "fire Mayo" chants could be heard throughout Gillette Stadium during the game.

patriotswire.usatoday.com