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PostGame Thread 2024 OFFICIAL POSTGAME: Pats lose to the Jags 32-16, fall to 1-6

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Bill came into a situation that was much better than what Fairbanks an Parcells had to build from.
True, but if Kraft wasn't around I'm sure Bill would right the ship. Obviously, he's not coming back and it was a joke, right?
 
We’re just limited with what we can dial up with a qb making his second start.
nah. that just an excuse. what throw can't he make?
We aren’t making the playoffs anyways, let’s just somewhat enjoy Maye progressing this year and build with our prime draft selection.
will try
 
My point is that we were pretty happy with the choice and expected him to be the answer at QB based on those two games.

Just...want to temper the joy a bit. Not kill the joy though.

 
The Pats need what RK doesn't want to do - find someone with a superb vision of a football team as a complete system and give them total control, a la Fairbanks and Parcells.

Ironic since Kraft hired Carroll and BB.
 
nah. that just an excuse. what throw can't he make?

will try

Does he even know the full playbook yet?

I’m guessing the menu is limited.
 
Those that wanted Bill gone wasn’t because of his coaching ability, it’s because the team has the worst roster in the league. Many of us have said for years the drafting had been bad but we’re drowned out by Bill sycophants who thought the roster was fine. It’s not fine and hasn’t been fine for over 1/2 a decade.

The o-line has been a mess - got rid of Thuney and Mason. Wasted 1st rounders on Wynn and Strange. A complete **** show. Our skill position players have been the worst in the league since Gronk left. Pro Bowlers and All Pros no where to be found.

I’m not sold on Mayo. I thought they should have opened up the search, but Mayo did inherit the worst roster in the league. Also not sold on Wolf, he was part of BB’s team who built this pile of ****. But to act like we should have kept Bill is ********. This dog **** roster has his finger prints all over it.
This roster has gotten worse this year . There is not even a slight improvement so what has Mayo done? It's very well to blame Bill but the new guy should have made even a little improvement but made none . Why did he not address the O-line ? Not only is a terrible coach, he can't hold Bill's jock strap. And the last 2 plus years, I believe RK is responsible for this mess as it was clear that he forced Bill to draft players he did not want. They could have gotten a proper GM and let Bill coach but because of our egotistical owner that did not happen. Letting Bill go was a huge mistake and no one can convince me otherwise !!!
 
This is what I thought about Polk last year:

BEFORE THE DRAFT:

One thing I saw from Polk last night is that he adjusted well and made a nice catch, but after a nifty move to break away from his guy, he had a clear path to the end zone with at least 3 yards separation from the help defender chasing him down.

He didn't make it to the end zone. That doesn't speak well to his speed at all. I was shocked he was hauled down.

My bust picks:

J. Polk from Washington. He just plays weak out there and doesn't seem to show much effort going for balls. I question everything about him, including his hands. On a team with 3 receivers, someone was going to be open.
 
He did a decent job and his highlight was stifling the red hot 2019 Ravens who looked like they couldn't be stopped. That was a great game plan. Brian Flores also had a great game plan making Jackson look like a back up QB a few years ago.

When Mayo is canned, Bob really has to clean house and leave no ties to BB even though Vrabel didn't coach under him. They need a hard reset.
And it should happen directly after this season. Get a Real GM and let that GM get a HC and coaching staff. But, I seriously doubt that RK will do that. He won't admit he made a mistake this soon, nor pay for the GM and coaching staff.
 
Those that wanted Bill gone wasn’t because of his coaching ability,
He was also a lousy head coach over the last 2 seasons.
 
This roster has gotten worse this year . There is not even a slight improvement so what has Mayo done? It's very well to blame Bill but the new guy should have made even a little improvement but made none . Why did he not address the O-line ? Not only is a terrible coach, he can't hold Bill's jock strap. And the last 2 plus years, I believe RK is responsible for this mess as it was clear that he forced Bill to draft players he did not want. They could have gotten a proper GM and let Bill coach but because of our egotistical owner that did not happen. Letting Bill go was a huge mistake and no one can convince me otherwise !!!
At some point it becomes his team, his players and his screwups. At some point you have to stop blaming the predecessor.
 
Mayo is quieter on the sidelines than Jim Caldwell.
And i used to think they had a life size cardboard cut out of caldwell standing on the sidelines, thats how quiet he was
 
Those that wanted Bill gone wasn’t because of his coaching ability, it’s because the team has the worst roster in the league. Many of us have said for years the drafting had been bad but we’re drowned out by Bill sycophants who thought the roster was fine. It’s not fine and hasn’t been fine for over 1/2 a decade.
There's no doubt his drafts were atrocious and was a major reason the roster is what it is. However, because of what he's done overall and the lack of alternatives, I didn't think Bob would've been dumb enough to pull the trigger.
The o-line has been a mess - got rid of Thuney and Mason. Wasted 1st rounders on Wynn and Strange. A complete **** show. Our skill position players have been the worst in the league since Gronk left. Pro Bowlers and All Pros no where to be found.
Bill didn't get rid of Thuney, but he did wait until the 11th hour to make a push to retain him which Thuney declined. Although Mason's contract wasn't bad, it was bizarre. Wynn and Strange were also head scratching picks.
I’m not sold on Mayo. I thought they should have opened up the search, but Mayo did inherit the worst roster in the league. Also not sold on Wolf, he was part of BB’s team who built this pile of ****. But to act like we should have kept Bill is ********. This dog **** roster has his finger prints all over it.
They couldn't open up the search because Mayo was the successor to Bill. It was obvious when Mayo quickly ran back home after being offered an interview with Carolina.

Wolf has been worse than Bobby Grier. It's clear he hasn't learned much from his Dad.
 
This roster has gotten worse this year . There is not even a slight improvement so what has Mayo done? It's very well to blame Bill but the new guy should have made even a little improvement but made none . Why did he not address the O-line ? Not only is a terrible coach, he can't hold Bill's jock strap. And the last 2 plus years, I believe RK is responsible for this mess as it was clear that he forced Bill to draft players he did not want. They could have gotten a proper GM and let Bill coach but because of our egotistical owner that did not happen. Letting Bill go was a huge mistake and no one can convince me otherwise !!!
They should have added talent all over with all the money they had, but it should be clear to everyone right now that having a real QB makes the OL look 10x better in pass protecting.

Drake Maye has some time to wheel and deal back there because opposing defenses are afraid of him, and he's managing this without our best OL.

It's clear we have huge deficiencies at WR.

Drake can't do it all by himself. Polk and Bourne are no better than 3rd or 4th WRs at best. Assuming we have Douglas as our #2, we still need a #1. And frankly, I'd rather have Boutte out there as our 3rd than Polk or Bourne.
 
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