Patriots Injury News Andrews may be done for the year

[Thelonious]

This is such sad news. Right or wrong, I sort of think of Andrews as the last link to the "old Pats" it was our joy to root for over two decades.

 

[Thelonious]

As for Strange, can anyone seriously assert that he was worthy of being picked where he was? He may be of some use at some point, but c'mon.

 

[Patsfan1645]

I think the writing is on the wall for Andrews. I like his leadership and I think he does an excellent job calling out protections. However, he is 32 and slightly undersized for the position, dealt with several injuries over his career and as time goes on I have noticed him getting shoved down in the dirt more and more. I think its time for him to consider retirement and enjoy life.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

I think the loss of Andrews experience can not be overstated. The center makes all the line calls (he identifies the defense, and then instructs the other lineman who they are to block). Look at what's happening with Philly with Kelce retired. Now throw in a rookie QB, and a very inexperienced o-line. It is going to get uglier (if that is even possible).

Strange can barely play guard, center is a whole different animal. The Strange pick was indefensible when it happened, and it remains true today.

 

[Wozzy]

Strange can barely play guard,

This ^ is completely wrong.

He played good as a rookie in the first half of that season, then improved and played great the second half. He played the third most offensive snaps on the team. Meanwhile Wallace and Robinson can't get on the field if not for injuries, and stink when they do.

We're just making stuff up now?

 

[Thelonious]

This ^ is completely wrong.

He played good as a rookie in the first half of that season, then improved and played great the second half. He played the third most offensive snaps on the team. Meanwhile Wallace and Robinson can't get on the field if not for injuries and stink when they do.

We're just making stuff up now?

He was a serviceable guard, but I think it reasonable to expect more from that high a draftee at that position.

 

[Wozzy]

He was a serviceable guard, but I think it reasonable to expect more from that high a draftee at that position.

He was better than serviceable. He had a teachable moment midseason as a rookie when BB benched him midway through a game, he improved and played great the second half of the season. Despite playing injured last year he was a steadying force and David Andrews said he was playing great before he hurt the same knee a second time... badly this time.

Fans hated a guard at the end of the first round so now they're simply lying about his results... it's typical fan nonsense. If by some chance Strange could return this season at his former level, he'd instantly step in as a starter, improve the line and be one of our better linemen.

 

[Thelonious]

He was better than serviceable. He had a teachable moment midseason as a rookie when BB benched him midway through a game, he improved and played great the second half of the season. Despite playing injured last year he was a steadying force and David Andrews said he was playing great before he hurt the same knee a second time... badly this time.

Fans hated a guard at the end of the first round so now they're simply lying about his results... it's typical fan nonsense. If by some chance Strange could return this season at his former level, he'd instantly step in as a starter, improve the line and be one of our better linemen.

Whatever term we might wish to apply to his accomplishment, the ROI on a first-round guard ought to be better than it has been, assuming there even is such a thing as a "first-round guard."

 

[Wozzy]

Whatever term we might wish to apply to his accomplishment, the ROI on a first-round guard ought to be better than it has been, assuming there even is such a thing as a "first-round guard."

I'd say an instant starter who can play great is what a first round lineman should be. Beyond that some fickle fans who wanted "a weapon" instead don't understand how football is won in the trenches.

This year's abomination of an offensive line should be a stark reminder of that. Dead last in sack percentage, second to last in total sacks allowed in the NFL.. this team sucks because they don't have more quality linemen like Strange.

Saying he "can barely play guard" is hyperbolic garbage, especially after seeing Layden Robinson get tossed around the last few weeks.

 

[Sicilian]

At this point, whether Strange is good/not good, or whether he was worth/not worth the 29th pick are kind of irrelevant. This OL doesn't have the luxury of turning down any potential asset that's coming in. It's all hands on deck, all options open.

That said, until Strange actually starts practicing again, none of it matters anyway.

 

[signbabybrady]

Whatever term we might wish to apply to his accomplishment, the ROI on a first-round guard ought to be better than it has been, assuming there even is such a thing as a "first-round guard."

Do you think he'd have been worth a second rounder?

 

[Thelonious]

I'd say an instant starter who can play great is what a first round lineman should be. Beyond that some fickle fans who wanted "a weapon" instead don't understand how football is won in the trenches.

This year's abomination of an offensive line should be a stark reminder of that. Dead last in sack percentage, second to last in total sacks allowed in the NFL.. this team sucks because they don't have more quality linemen like Strange.

Saying he "can barely play guard" is hyperbolic garbage, especially after seeing Layden Robinson get tossed around the last few weeks.

A fa

Do you think he'd have been worth a second rounder?

In retrospect, given his injury history, I guess not, but at the time,I suppose drafting him in the 2nd round would have been a reasonable decision. Not all reasonable decisions work out, after all, particularly in the NFL draft, the World's Most Expensive Craps Game.

 

[signbabybrady]

A fa

In retrospect, given his injury history, I guess not, but at the time,I suppose drafting him in the 2nd round would have been a reasonable decision. Not all reasonable decisions work out, after all, particularly in the NFL draft, the World's Most Expensive Craps Game.

I meant injury aside do you think his level of play would be worth a 2nd?

I'm trying to avoid grading based on draft slot and just what you think of his play in a vacuum not based on a first rounder?

 

[40yrpatsfan]

I think what BB saw in Strange was the 2nd coming of Stephen Neal, and tbh I think he can still be that if he can get his knee healed up. And if you told me we could get another Neal with the 29th pick, I'd say good.

 

[mgteich]

I don't know why we think that Strange's draft position is relevant to his future on the patriots.

 

[archstanton543]

I don't know why we think that Strange's draft position is relevant to his future on the patriots.

It's part of the overall picture.

 

[ViperGTS]

Do we even know now what happened to Strange? ACL/PCL or what? Very odd nothing has come of that.

 

[Ring 6]

I guess that extension where we turned Andrews 4.5 mill into 8 mill guaranteed to add 2025 wasn’t a good move

 

[Sciz]

Do we even know now what happened to Strange? ACL/PCL or what? Very odd nothing has come of that.

Patellar tendon

 

[TheRainMaker]

I think what BB saw in Strange was the 2nd coming of Stephen Neal, and tbh I think he can still be that if he can get his knee healed up. And if you told me we could get another Neal with the 29th pick, I'd say good.

It was more like Logan Mankins. That pick was very controversial and Bill took a lot of **** for that. Mankins turned out to be a stud.

Even Jerry Jones took heat for either drafting Travis Fredrick or Zack Martin and both were arguably the best in the league.