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DRAFT 2024 4th Round Pick - WR Javon Baker

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Yeah I had some bittersweet feelings. Reagor's gonna stay bcz of return abilities. I think he's got some phoenix in him. He's gonna rise from the ashes. Can't drop another ball, though, if not he's gone.
That's the only real path for him to stay. I can see it but I know we'll kick the tires elsewhere.
You said "one" of them, the Pats drafted two

Come on man, clean it up
Rice is still available
 
He might still be the speediest WR on the roster.
He's by FAR the speediest WR on the roster. He needs to 1) Improve his f'ing snap reaction time because it sucks - shocking for someone with a T&F background, 2) Run crisp routes, and most importantly 3) Catch the f'ing ball. I really like him and hope he sticks.

I'm just surprised they barely had any jet sweeps with this guy.
 
He's only a deep threat if he's getting open. He's been the invisible man for 2 years which demonstrates that's he not.

Obviously we're going to give him a good look in training camp first before getting rid of him.

But I don't have any faith in his ability at this point in time.

He needs to show it to us on the field before anyone can declare him a 'deep threat'.
There have been plenty of times when he's been open but due to QB not seeing him or OL absolutely sucking, it just hasn't worked out. The very few times he's gotten a deep ball, he's dropped, and that's on him. Understandable if he's gone, but I'm hoping he figures it out with the Pats.
 
I think he just came up with it. He might be my favorite pick so far. He has the mentality you’d expect from one of those alpha “give me the ball” receivers. Hasn’t been seen in a while in these parts.
Almost impossible to pull off humble yet alpha, which is the vibe this guy is giving off.
 
Baker is a tough kid from ATL who used sports to escape the day to day in some parts of this country. Big time recruit which you always want. Was at Alabama before being lost in the shuffle there.

Baker is a prototype Z with X upside if he works on his efficiency on the los and catch point against bigger corners. Natural flanker in wco. He's got very good pacing to his routes imo. That's actually how he wins most of the time. With good pacing and baiting his man before the top of his route/breaks. He could be faster and more efficient here. Doesnt break off his routes as crisp as he could. Good job setting up his defender at the top of routes for the most part. He's got the ability to separate in the pros for sure. Plus vision whether it's on screens or in-route he's able to see what's around him for space, bodies and use that to his advantage. See some good yac off his game, again good vision and awareness. Would thrive with more PA added with his routes imo. He's really able to use things like that to his advantage. He has to tighten up his hands when the ball is closer to him. Not sure if he gets distracted but his hands are inconsistent at the catch point at times. Could tighten up his path post-catch and just take efficiency > chance at a big play. Can take a hit and keep going, good contact balance. Good blocker overall but has to make first contact more and not drop his head so easy.

He's got some issues but I love the value here. On the ptp board. This is a good pick boys. WR2 upside with the possibility of a top 20 season if he really hits. Let's go.










Well, I’m encouraged that you are excited about him given your excellent football knowledge and instincts. He never seemed to be able to put it together at Alabama, and never seemed like the world’s most cerebral or mature-beyond-his-years player there, but my record of projecting Alabama players I’ve watched to the Patriots has been a bit spotty of late (cough, Mac Jones, cough). Admittedly, in his last year (2021) he was competing for snaps with superior talents like Jameson Williams and John Mechie (drafted 12th and 44th overall). Plus, he seemed to play well at UCF, and he is a couple of years more mature. He seems like good value for where he was drafted, like you say. Let’s hope he plays as well as he talks
 
I really like this pick! Solid guy and can really fly.
 
There’s a lot more to a deep threat than just how fast they ran in a straight line in the 40 yard dash. Many of the WR1s in the league have a 40 time similar or even slower than Polk and Baker. No reason one of them can’t become deep threats. They both were on their college teams.
 
There have been plenty of times when he's been open but due to QB not seeing him or OL absolutely sucking, it just hasn't worked out. The very few times he's gotten a deep ball, he's dropped, and that's on him. Understandable if he's gone, but I'm hoping he figures it out with the Pats.
If Thornton figures it out and plays to his potential, it would make the offense very dangerous.

But, not sure he will figure it out or even can.
 
Rookie of the Year you heard it here Best pick on Day 3 we got our Pucka Nacua. Javon Baker is better than the Florida kid taken in the First.
 
The Pats have a lot of cash but Juju's contract is still too heavy to move on from, unfortunately.
What happens if he fails physical with bad knees?
 
If Thornton figures it out and plays to his potential, it would make the offense very dangerous.

But, not sure he will figure it out or even can.
Thornton has had plenty of chances to show his stuff.

He has shown nothing.
 
You can choose to die on the Thornton hill and that's your choice. He's a crap player.

We will find out in camp who can take on the roles needed at WR for Alex Van Pelt's offense.

Let em compete first and the coaches will pick what roles they fit best after seeing them.

I don't pick the players and you can bark at the moon all you want, you just end up looking foolish.

This has been the conversation so far:

We need oranges.
Our previous grocery shopper bought apples.
Where are our oranges.
I don't buy the groceries, we have apples.
Stop picking on the grocery shopper, we fired him! I asked where our are damn oranges?
SMH. We just got a new grocery shopper, maybe he got some oranges, we'll have to see after we unbag the groceries at training camp.
But why are the oranges going to training camp? These are grown ass men we’re talking about here. You gonna give ‘em capri suns too?!
 
The draft started about 2.00am over here so i missed all of day 3. I was hoping to see JB's name somewhere on our list of selections.

Very happy with the pick.
 
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