OT: Simmoms ... Atlanta Front Office Does Not Want Bill.

[Boomer B]

Reports today are that the Chargers and Harbaugh are close and that Atlanta is bringing in a few more for their 2nd interviews. Not looking good right now for BB.

 

[condon84]

I don't think that is completely true anymore. Penalties have increased the last 3 years and special teams has been a disaster.

They were in the top 10 in least penalized teams this past year - NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Penalties per Game | TeamRankings.com

The point though is that come playoff time, there's no other HC out there that can prepare a team like Belichick.

 

[Guts]

They were in the top 10 in least penalized teams this past year - NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Penalties per Game | TeamRankings.com

The point though is that come playoff time, there's no other HC out there that can prepare a team like Belichick.

Andy Reid

 

[RobertWeathers]

They were in the top 10 in least penalized teams this past year - NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Penalties per Game | TeamRankings.com

Yea thats true https://www.footballdb.com/stats/penalties.html?yr=2023. Last year was not.

The point though is that come playoff time, there's no other HC out there that can prepare a team like Belichick.

I don't think that is true anymore either since they've lost their last 2 playoff games hes coached.

 

[lancerman]

This reminds me when Brady became available and only 2 teams were interested.

If you get Belichick, you know the team is gonna be prepared, situationally sound, good game plans and adjustments. If you're Philly, Dallas, Buffalo, teams that are ready to win, you should do everything you can to bring him in.

Those teams have front offices that made them contenders and they don't want to gut them for a 2-3 year run. That's ultimately the problem. The teams good enough to merit a short term run with Bill have a proven strong structure that got them to that point and don't want massive change. The teams that aren't good enough are willing to maybe consider giving Bill full control, but they are hesistant that they'll be rebuilding with a coach who won't be there for the window to open.

The Falcons are likely the only team because they are in a sweet spot where they think Bill can turn them around fast and the front office isn't anything to ride home about.

 

[lancerman]

Yea thats true https://www.footballdb.com/stats/penalties.html?yr=2023. Last year was not.

I don't think that is true anymore either since they've lost their last 2 playoff games hes coached.

The Pats haven't won a playoff game since the 2018 season. Andy Reid has won 12 since Bill's last playoff win. It's really hard to say that Bill in his current state is better. A lot of that is who the QB is obviously.

 

[lancerman]

This right here is the sentiment I'm getting. I know people don't like to think Bill plays well with the media. But the whole will he/won't he be fired saga had Rappaport occassionally throwing out a report that carried water for Bill and then the recent reports over wanting or not wanting Mac. It does feel like Bill has a team out there trying to get a strong position in the media.

 

[gobesmug]

This reminds me when Brady became available and only 2 teams were interested.

If you get Belichick, you know the team is gonna be prepared, situationally sound, good game plans and adjustments. If you're Philly, Dallas, Buffalo, teams that are ready to win, you should do everything you can to bring him in.

Sure, except Brady had 4 offers, discussions with a few other teams, and was blocked by Brian Flores from the Dolphins while Bill has had 2 interviews with 1 team.

Yeah reminds me exactly of when Brady was a FA lol

 

[Bill Lee]

This reminds me when Brady became available and only 2 teams were interested.

Even less last off-season for Lamar Jackson, when he could have been had if any owner had the balls to go rogue.

I hope he takes his MVP trophy and parades with it through ATL's front office...

If you get Belichick, you know the team is gonna be prepared, situationally sound, good game plans and adjustments. If you're Philly, Dallas, Buffalo, teams that are ready to win, you should do everything you can to bring him in.

It's hard to square this with a guy who coached Mac Jones to a strong rookie season then presided over his decline to non-entity in less than two seasons.

 

[lancerman]

Even less last off-season for Lamar Jackson, when he could have been had if any owner had the balls to go rogue.

I hope he takes his MVP trophy and parades with it through ATL's front office...



It's hard to square this with a guy who coached Mac Jones to a strong rookie season then presided over his decline to non-entity in less than two seasons.

Tbf the real reason nobody wanted Lamar was because they knew they weren't going to get him. The Ravens were low balling him but they could match any contract. So a team either had to pay something absurd that nobody including the Ravens would pay to get him, or they give him something good but reasonable and then the Ravens match. The Ravens were just trying to get other teams to do their negotiating for them and nobody wanted to bite.

 

[aluminum seats]

Belichick can't do what he does unless he gets his players.

"Either give me the authority to drive this offense into the ground or find somebody else"

 

[upstater1]

"Either give me the authority to drive this offense into the ground or find somebody else"

It wasn't a bad offense when Matt Cassell was leading it. It was the 8th best offense n the NFL.

 

[upstater1]

Yea thats true https://www.footballdb.com/stats/penalties.html?yr=2023. Last year was not.

I don't think that is true anymore either since they've lost their last 2 playoff games hes coached.

You can be the best prepared. And still lose.

 

[Boomer B]

It wasn't a bad offense when Matt Cassell was leading it. It was the 8th best offense n the NFL.

You only had to go back 16 years to make your point.

 

[IcyPatriot]

I think his best play is to sit out a year .... do some media or whatever.
It just seems demeaning for such a great coach .... appear desperate just for a job.
Become a coach for a garbage franchise ... Anyways ... IMO ...Dallas was perfect for him ...

 

[upstater1]

You only had to go back 16 years to make your point.

I was going back to when they had a competent QB not named Brady

And a few good players at WR

I could go back to 2019 as well. And 18. And 17. And 16. And 15. And 14. And 13. And 12. And 11. And 10. And 9.

 

[RobertWeathers]

You can be the best prepared. And still lose.

Of course.

 

[Nehalem]

This reminds me when Brady became available and only 2 teams were interested.

If you get Belichick, you know the team is gonna be prepared, situationally sound, good game plans and adjustments. If you're Philly, Dallas, Buffalo, teams that are ready to win, you should do everything you can to bring him in.

You mean like the last playoff game where the Bills scored a TD on every possession?

 

[lancerman]

I think his best play is to sit out a year .... do some media or whatever.
It just seems demeaning for such a great coach .... appear desperate just for a job.
Become a coach for a garbage franchise ... Anyways ... IMO ...Dallas was perfect for him ...

I don't disagree with this. If he stays out this year, he'll be able to set himself up for a better position next year's coaching cycle. Right now it seems like nobody but the Falcons were willing to wait for us to release him and now the Falcons look like they are getting cold feet for whatever reason. Go in the media and keep your name out there and then be able to have back channel discussions where it looks like jobs are opening up.

 

[grux]

I wouldn't be surprised if BB wanting total control could be a deal breaker. If I was an owner I wouldn't want to be looking for a new coach, front office staff and assistant coaches in three years. I would be interested in BB being my head coach only and have him build a solid coaching staff.