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PostGame Thread Week 1 OFFICIAL Post-Game Thread: Patriots lose close to the Eagles

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Put him behind Philly OL for a month and he'll be zipping. Its all about confidence. Or much of it.

If Mac Jones ever develops into a QB who can win playoff games for you and contend for championships, I’ve become convinced he’s going to need exceptional line play in front of him to reach that level.

It’s not because he gets overly jittery when pressured. All QBs, even the one honored today, can look pedestrian when being the pressured. But, the real problem is his lack of functional height (shoulder height plus arm length) lowers his release point which all too often has him flipping the ball out of a well to get his passes over the extended arms of rushers rather than being able to drive the ball for maximum velocity or distance. That’s why some of his passes look crisp with more than adequate velocity while others just float towards their target. It all depends on whether he has a clean passing lane to step into the pass or not.

It’s just a shortcoming Jones and the Patriot coaches are going to have to develop work arounds for if he’s to fully reach his potential. Deeper drops or moving pockets would be helpful in certain situations. But, the best solution is to have an Oline capable of preventing rushers from not only getting to him but also from getting too close to him as well.

I think this helps explain the emphasis on the Oline, especially interior linemen, in the Pats’ last two drafts.
 
True with the OL. Philly’s and Detroit’s OLs are top in the league.

But you guys will be surprised how stout Miami’s DL is. And LB David Long is a sideline to sideline athlete. Miami is loaded with talent.

I would take Hurts over Tua any day. I think Hurts and the Philly OL is what is the main difference between these two teams' offense.

How are Miami's DBs? Our recievers were open vs the Philly DBs all night long.
 
Don't be too harsh on either rookie. Mafi was OK. The Eagles DL is outstanding. Probably get Strange and Onwenu back in 2 weeks. Mafi and Sow will last until then. Overall we need a #1 tackle next year and we should be OK.
I agree. Between all of their current crop they should be able to settle RT. Sow and Mafi can be quality guard depth with one of them replacing Onwenu next year. They'll want to move on from Brown at LT eventually, and it's a good draft class in 2024 for tackles. Draft and develop.
 
I would take Hurts over Tua any day. I think Hurts and the Philly OL is what is the main difference between these two teams' offense.

How are Miami's DBs? Our recievers were open vs the Philly DBs all night long.
 
I’m a Pats fan so while disappointed by the loss, I choose to be optimistic. I’ve been whining for three or four years about their OL in general and OT in particular. Today for the first time in many moons I feel like there’s legit reason to be happy with it. It was far from perfect obviously but that front 7 they faced today had a future HOF and five other top 50 picks, and with two OGs playing their first NFL game and having exactly zero snaps as a unit against actual NFL starters they did more than fine.

Have a look at what the Cowboys are doing to the Giants tonight: NY has two top 10 picks for OTs and are getting humiliated. I’ll take Calvin Anderson over Evan Neal any day.

The Pats now are 2 deep at OT and OG, with the added bonus that none of them are named Ferentz. They will need every one of them, and will need J. Andrews and/or Russey behind D. Andrews. Even more significantly there is no DC or his mediocre assistant “coaching” them at a level equivalent to having Dr. Hook as your emergency surgeon.

As for Mac, my hope remains that he will evolve into a reasonable facsimile of Chad Pennington while the Pats figure out a way to significantly improve upon him before his rookie deal expires. I see nothing wrong with a game manager but he’s got a long way to go just to get to that level. Right now his biggest flaw isn’t his arm, it’s his head. If BOB can get him to stay within himself he can be fine, but they’ll need someone more talented to get back to competing for titles.
 
Hey guys. Just checking in to remind you how I took so much crap all offseason saying that getting JSS and letting Meyers go for the same money was the worst decision of the year. Pretty obvious now. JSS is slow and un-clutch.





“I felt like in the most critical times, I played my worst … felt like I let the defense down.” — Mac Jones
Mac just stf up and enjoy the season. So many miserable ****s on this team.
 
Yeah, they really throttled the Chargers today.
How many sacks did Joey Bosa and Khalil Mack get? You’re talking about one playoff team beating another likely playoff team in a shootout.

We are going to be underdogs against Miami. Rightfully so. And, no, I doubt we run for over 200 yards.
 


Howard is good. Apple has bounced around because he's not really that good. I like our WR's chances. But it all depends on how Mac is able to decipher the defense. He was able to be decisive tonight for a good amount of plays which is a positive. It means it he was prepared pretty well.

Philly's middle was open all night. If I'm planning a defense against Mac, I make him throw outside the hashes all night and test his arm strength.
 
How many sacks did Joey Bosa and Khalil Mack get? You’re talking about one playoff team beating another likely playoff team in a shootout.

We are going to be underdogs against Miami. Rightfully so. And, no, I doubt we run for over 200 yards.
Don't move the goalposts. You were raving about how talented Miami's defense is. Eli Apple is one of their starting corners. Justin Bethel is getting meaningful defensive snaps.

And why is the standard 200 yards rushing? That seems...high.
 
It was his first game in a new system with three starters out. So I will give him a few games to show some more consistency.

I think the Dolphins' defense may be significantly weaker than the Eagles. So we may be able to see if he can be more consistent next week. Plus, Parker, Strange, and Owenu could be back.
Not to mention we will really get a chance to see what this D is made of. Tua is mobile but he’s not Hurts mobile. They do have speed that kills. Will be interesting to see what the game plan is. I dont see Gonzalez fairing too well against either of their top 2 options. Both are great route runners and are blazing fast. Put Jo Jones on Hill. Use a myriad of defenders for Waddle? If the Drush plays anything like it did today and the DB’s can cover just long enough, Tua should be running for his life. Then again, Tua seems to always have a solid game against us.
 
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