Patriots hosting DE Trey Flowers for a visit (Update: He's Agreed to Terms)

[Real fan 02]

I thought they already had him in. Maybe I’m misremembering.

Not a need but for low money it makes sense. Might become a need if they trade someone…

Your right I believe it was earlier in the off season he was in for a visit.. I liked trey when he was here.. was a home grown talent.. he had a nice season or 2 in Detroit.. however Injuries have kinda stalled his career. Who's to say he even makes the final roster cuts?

 

[Real fan 02]

IF I was Josh Uche I would bank on having another great year and cash in unless the Pats blow me away with an extension. They are not a getting discount from Uche with the nature of this game.

IMO uche is going to have another solid year and hit FA and cash in.. we have so many FAs to be, come next season.

 

[PatsFan2]

IMO uche is going to have another solid year and hit FA and cash in.. we have so many FAs to be, come next season.

I would make Uche my First priority regarding an Extension.

 

[Uptown]

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[Real fan 02]

I would make Uche my First priority regarding an Extension.

I like uche.. but I believe they will franchise ownenu and re up duggs.. it was reported that they were in talks with uche for an extension at the beginning of camp? It would go along way for the future of the team if we can retain our own guys..

 

[Zuma]

I like uche.. but I believe they will franchise ownenu and re up duggs.. it was reported that they were in talks with uche for an extension at the beginning of camp? It would go along way for the future of the team if we can retain our own guys..

They have the bling…it would be a failure to not re-sign our homegrown guys to another contract.

 

[Real fan 02]

They have the bling…it would be a failure to not re-sign our homegrown guys to another contract.

Agreed.. that has been the knock on the franchise the whole time we were winning.. of not always retaining our own guys.. teams had the benefit for a while of guys playing on 6 yr rookie deals.. If they are smart they would try to Jimmy Gs agent.. LOL how many contracts has he had in 9 years..

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Crazy to think he is still in his 20s… not for long but still.

 

[Real fan 02]

Crazy to think he is still in his 20s… not for long but still.

Yeah.. to me nothing but a depth signing.. who knows is he will even be on the 53..

 

[Ring 6]

IF I was Josh Uche I would bank on having another great year and cash in unless the Pats blow me away with an extension. They are not a getting discount from Uche with the nature of this game.

I don’t know about discount but I feel your opinion of his value is inflated.
He had 11.5 sacks last year after 4 in his first 2 seasons.
Last year he played 38% of the snaps (374) on defense and played 30 and 31% the 2 previous years.
He had 6 of those 11.5 sacks in 2 games (Indy and az) and 9 in a 5 game stretch.

Who will break the bank for a guy who plays 22 snaps a game, had a 5 game run of good sack numbers and otherwise has a career total of 6.5 sacks in 31 games?

If he wants a contract now it should be based upon being a part time player who had one good month rushing the QB in 3 years.
If he expects more than that, he better play like that greatest month of his life consistently this year and/or develop other skills to earn more playing time.

 

[Ring 6]

K White is a Man/Child I think Flowers will be learning from him White have Nightmare! written all over him.

I don’t see us using him the Miami did at all.

 

[italian pat patriot]

no
Flowers replaces Jennings and Perkins

So...not a very good news...i am probably in minority but i would prefere younger playiers

 

[Ring 6]

So...not a very good news...i am probably in minority but i would prefere younger playiers

The loser of a Jenkins/Perkins competition would be a guy who doesn’t belong on a roster, not a younger developmental player. Both have one foot out of the league and can’t be considered prospects.

 

[WaterfallJumper]

I don’t know about discount but I feel your opinion of his value is inflated.
He had 11.5 sacks last year after 4 in his first 2 seasons.
Last year he played 38% of the snaps (374) on defense and played 30 and 31% the 2 previous years.
He had 6 of those 11.5 sacks in 2 games (Indy and az) and 9 in a 5 game stretch.

Who will break the bank for a guy who plays 22 snaps a game, had a 5 game run of good sack numbers and otherwise has a career total of 6.5 sacks in 31 games?

If he wants a contract now it should be based upon being a part time player who had one good month rushing the QB in 3 years.
If he expects more than that, he better play like that greatest month of his life consistently this year and/or develop other skills to earn more playing time.

That's one way to look at it. Another is to look at the contracts offered when a double-digit sack artist hits the market, which isn't terribly frequent. Someone will pay up big if Uche has another season even approaching last year's showing. I'd much prefer to retain his services long term. We need speed on this defense.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Yeah.. to me nothing but a depth signing.. who knows is he will even be on the 53..

I dont have much hopes either, age doesn’t matter when your body hasn’t held up in years

 

[Real fan 02]

I dont have much hopes either, age doesn’t matter when your body hasn’t held up in years

Yes coincidentally he started having Injury issues after he got paid!

 

[Patriot Missile]

This signing makes me happy. Hopefully he can return to form and help Barmore and White dominate while cracking some heads himself along the way. Was a very good pressure guy for the Pats and in college.

 

[Ring 6]

That's one way to look at it. Another is to look at the contracts offered when a double-digit sack artist hits the market, which isn't terribly frequent. Someone will pay up big if Uche has another season even approaching last year's showing. I'd much prefer to retain his services long term. We need speed on this defense.

How many “double digit sacks artist” have 9 in 5 games and 6.5 in their other 31?
How many play less than 40% of the snaps?

Everyone who hits 10 sacks in a season is not the same player.

If he “approaches last season” by playing 38% of the snaps, and instead of a month with 9 sacks, it’s a month with 5, you have a part time player with 7.5 sacks.
No one is paying top dollar for that.

This also doesn’t take into account that if yin asked him to be an every down player on the edge he is too small to hold up, so you are not getting a full time player

 

[Real fan 02]

This signing makes me happy. Hopefully he can return to form and help Barmore and White dominate while cracking some heads himself along the way. Was a very good pressure guy for the Pats and in college.

He was a home grown guy I had wished we retained.. but we knew enough about our team. They have a number for each and every player.. I'll say the one guy that didn't give a home town discount was Moss!

 

[Ring 6]

Yes coincidentally he started having Injury issues after he got paid!

Why do you find that coincidental?