Game Day Thread Official Post Game Thread- Pats beat the Dolphins

[One-If-By-Sea]

I feel the same way about Mac after the game as before. Because of the abysmal coaching this year, Mac has been so handicapped that we know nothing more about him at the end of the year than we did at the beginning. That puts us a year behind in developing/evaluating him. That's unfortunate, but it's not Mac's fault; it's Bill's. We'll have to wait until next year to find out what he is. Saying that he is "elite" at this point is childish.

If you feel the same about Mac after the game, you do not know what you are looking at. Mac took another step forward today, but you didn't take a step forward at all - same old BB hate - let's hope Mac keeps moving forward while you are stuck in a rut.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

If Mac had Weis as his coach & play caller...

Weis? The guy everyone has passed on over and over? You like Weis? If yes, you might be the only one.

 

[slash83]

I feel Dugger might be the best player on defense this year, over Judon.

 

[Rob0729]

If you feel the same about Mac after the game, you do not know what you are looking at. Mac took another step forward today, but you didn't take a step forward at all - same old BB hate - let's hope Mac keeps moving forward while you are stuck in a rut.

If you think this year is a wash because of Patricia, today wasn’t a step forward. This is a step to catch up where he was last year under McDaniels.

The only improvement from Jones you can draw from this year is his deep ball passing has been better this year with a lot more velocity on the football. Otherwise, this entire year was one big step back and most of it isn’t his fault.

But you can say that about a lot of players on offense.

 

[Rob0729]

All of those criticisms are factual and it's legitimate to question why he's so bad now with two seasons under his belt. I don't ignore those other issues (I commented about the OL and coaching decisions in today's GDT) but I can see why you would say it should be more equal. I don't agree.

Your criticisms are not factual though. It is the facts filtered through your biases.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

The only improvement from Jones you can draw from this year is his deep ball passing has been better this year with a lot more velocity on the football. Otherwise, this entire year was one big step back and most of it isn’t his fault.

I posted about Mac's improvement this week and you tried to turn that into a discussion about Mac's improvement this year. Can you see the difference between week and year? If you want to comment about Mac's improvement this year versus last, that is fine, but please comment without trying to reference to my comment.

 

[Nunchucks]

If you think this year is a wash because of Patricia, today wasn’t a step forward. This is a step to catch up where he was last year under McDaniels.

The only improvement from Jones you can draw from this year is his deep ball passing has been better this year with a lot more velocity on the football. Otherwise, this entire year was one big step back and most of it isn’t his fault.

But you can say that about a lot of players on offense.

Mac had his usual up and down play. But he is playing slightly better

 

[Rob0729]

I posted about Mac's improvement this week and you tried to turn that into a discussion about Mac's improvement this year. Can you see the difference between week and year? If you want to comment about Mac's improvement this year versus last, that is fine, but please comment without trying to reference to my comment.

He has improved over the last few months or so. But you were responding to someone who posted about a point a view similar to what I just posted. That is why I chimed in. Today he did some things better than he has this year.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I feel Dugger might be the best player on defense this year, over Judon.

Considering he has 3 TDs which would rank him #3 if he played on offense you have a good argument.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

I feel the same way about Mac after the game as before. Because of the abysmal coaching this year, Mac has been so handicapped that we know nothing more about him at the end of the year than we did at the beginning. That puts us a year behind in developing/evaluating him. That's unfortunate, but it's not Mac's fault; it's Bill's. We'll have to wait until next year to find out what he is. Saying that he is "elite" at this point is childish.

Bolded is in every one of your ****post and it's not true. Imagine scouts telling their higher-ups they couldn't evaluate a QB bc the OL was bad. Same for coaches. They dont call off QB meetings bc the OL is bad.

 

[denverpatsfan]

Huge win over a hated division rival. They needed to beat that Phucking team. To heck with the draft pick position. Old man is in the hospital. Could be the last Pats game we watch together so happy they got the win.

 

[Trolltolls]

Mac was super clutch in that long drive. That pass to Jakobi on 3rd and 5 was a DOT.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Mac had his usual up and down play. But he is playing slightly better

Yea hes cut way back on the truly awful throws but has improved since the beginning of the year

 

[Tom Tupa]

Mac has thrown 1 pick in the last 8 games and if memory serves me right he was hit on the one he did throw vs Arizona. So he has definitely cut down on the turnover-worthy throws big time.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Mac has thrown 1 pick in the last 8 games and if memory serves me right he was hit on the one he did throw vs Arizona. So he has definitely cut down on the turnover-worthy throws big time.

...and 3 picks in his last 300+ attempts. Can't really complain about that aspect of his game anymore.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Weis? The guy everyone has passed on over and over? You like Weis? If yes, you might be the only one.

...three Super Bowl wins...

He knew when to run the ball, and he did.

Lots of wins where Tom threw it less than 20 times.

 

[TheBeers]

I'd like to see more quick passing, slants, and option routes. We seem to do well in those rare plays

 

[TFB=GOAT]

I'd like to see more quick passing, slants, and option routes. We seem to do well in those rare plays

Maybe sprinkle in that Philly Special at the goal line sometime? I’m sure Fat Matt saw that from Michigan last night and went six to midnight

 

[sb1]

So Mac didn’t break anyone’s leg today? I was told he’s one of the dirtiest players in the league I’m surprised nothing happened…

 

[Patsfan1958]