Game Day Thread Official Post Game Thread- Bears beat the Pats

[Toofy]

At least this will quiet the Zappe crowd.
BB should not have yanked Mac that quick. Now you're at risk of losing the team's trust.
The 2nd half plan was not a plan, just a surrender. Everytime we bring back Collins it's useless, and our D gets worse.
We lost Dugger, Phillips & Andrews. This is bad.
We could easily lose to the Jets next week, then it's rock bottom.

I think you hit the nail on the head. Now how do you rally the troops after such a. Deflating loss. The QB is the captain of the ship and both zappe and Mac will feel terrible. Mac because he played terribly bad and zappe for seeing how Mac was treated by the crowd by chanting zappe and Mac still coming to congratulate him on the first TD. Understand they are professionals , but deep within we are all human . Meyers statement reflected that . How do you step on somebody's jobs make them redundant and then you goof it as well . If we look at the emotional or psychological aspect, it's pretty bad for both QBs.

If the team feels game planning was a problem then the coaching staff lose credibility and player buy- in takes a toss.

You need a real strong leader to motivate the troops . Earlier we had Brady , now nobody of that stature . Maybe Judon to a certain extent .

Next game decides our season. If we lose to jets it's tankathon and possibly a top 10 pick.

 

[Rob0729]

O

Serious lack of objectivity around here.

Yeah, but we love the pro Zappe crowd already. Hopefully they will get a vaccine for Zappe fever at some poin.

And yes, I know what you are talking about.

But exploiting a 5'11" (what most people thinks Zappe's real height is) pocket passing QB by taking away his passing lanes isn't exactly rocket science.

 

[Rob0729]

While at the same time advocating giving more time to a QB that has played bad the last 10 games he played

Last ten games? Really? Let's just make stuff up.

 

[Nunchucks]

You know who’s been bad recently & played a role in yesterday’s loss? Jake Bailey. Might want to consider signing someone else if that continues.

I agree Bailey was bad, but let's be honest. The bears could have started at their 5 all night and it would not have mattered.

I've never seen so many 3rd and long completed

 

[Jim Beankie]

Don't forget that the 2nd half proved that teams know how to stop Zappe now.

Bending over backwards to that extent may be attractive in porn, but doing it to make excuses for Mac the butter Knife is embarrassing.

It could also very well be that the highly ranked Bears pass defense (3rd in yds, 5th in rating) is actually pretty good.

 

[Rob0729]

Don't forget that the 2nd half proved that teams know how to stop Zappe now.

Bending over backwards to that extent may be attractive in porn, but doing it to make excuses for Mac the butter Knife is embarrassing.

I can only speak for myself. I haven't been defending Mac today or last night.

Second of all, Zappe is a fourth round pick who had one really good game and two good drives last night a long with two games where he was just asked to not screw things up. And yet the Pro-Zappe crowd have spent the last week plus saying this is Brady/Bledsoe all over again.

Zappe showed last night why he went in the fourth round. He is a small QB with limitations in his game.

 

[PatsFan2]

Really? Looks like defenses already figured out Zappe.

Really? I think the jury is still out on Zappe . But it has definitely come in on Moon ball Mac. One positive in starting moon ball is we are guaranteed a Top 10 pick. Your head have to be in the sand if you think otherwise.

 

[Rob0729]

I agree Bailey was bad, but let's be honest. The bears could have started at their 5 all night and it would not have mattered.

I've never seen so many 3rd and long completed

This was an entire team loss. No one played well except for maybe Judon in the first half (although he gave up a huge run in the second half).

 

[PatsFan2]

You guys think he is a franchise QB based on one game. Which is complete and utter nonsense. You are literally accusing me of stuff the pro Zappe crowd is doing.

We can sense your disposition though the viber optics.

 

[Jim Beankie]

I agree Bailey was bad, but let's be honest. The bears could have started at their 5 all night and it would not have mattered.

I've never seen so many 3rd and long completed

Bears were 11-18 on 3rd down (the 3rd and 14 Fields scramble for 20 was soul crushing). That's just baaad.

 

[Rob0729]

Really? I think the jury is still out on Zappe . But it has definitely come on on Moon ball Mac. One positive in starting moon ball is we are guaranteed a Top 10 pick. Your head have to be in the sand if you think otherwise.

And I think the jury is still out on Mac and I am not convinced that Zappe will ever be a legitimate starting QB.

I think Patricia needs to do what McDaniels would have done this season and go back to the basics and then mix in the down the field passing. Unfortunately, now we are near the midway point of the season where they have to do it. Patricia really screwed up Jones. A lot of that is on Jones, but I still think if he can get out of his funk, he is the better QB. If not, he is trash.

 

[TomPatriot]

I think you hit the nail on the head. Now how do you rally the troops after such a. Deflating loss. The QB is the captain of the ship and both zappe and Mac will feel terrible. Mac because he played terribly bad and zappe for seeing how Mac was treated by the crowd by chanting zappe and Mac still coming to congratulate him on the first TD. Understand they are professionals , but deep within we are all human . Meyers statement reflected that . How do you step on somebody's jobs make them redundant and then you goof it as well . If we look at the emotional or psychological aspect, it's pretty bad for both QBs.

If the team feels game planning was a problem then the coaching staff lose credibility and played but in takes a toss.

You need a real strong leader to motivate the troops . Earlier we had Brady , now nobody of that stature . Maybe Judon to a certain extent .

Next game decides our season. If we lose to jets it's tankathon and possibly a top 10 pick.

Take the blame, analyze what went wrong, fix what’s broken, move on to the Jets and work harder and smarter.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

Last ten games? Really? Let's just make stuff up

Sorry 8 of his last 9

Colts
Bills
Miami
Bills
Miami
Steelers
Ravens
Bears

Only good being The jaguars which had 20 players on the Covid list and could barely field an NFL team

 

[Rob0729]

We can sense your disposition though the viber optics.

Really? I am fine. Thanks for asking.

 

[RIpats88]

Lol at the pro zappe crowd excusing his bad performance with 2 picks and tipped passes

While also putting all of Macs on him

 

[PatsWSB47]

Mac wanting to become like Brady…bush league play right here

Lol. Just can't resist can you?

 

[SammyBlueCat]

Fields threw for 179 yards on 13 for 21..with an INT and 4 sacks,,,and the Pats get blown out of their own building?...HUH?

He ran the ball at will

 

[Lagaffe_07]

And I think the jury is still out on Mac and I am not convinced that Zappe will ever be a legitimate starting QB.

Again a QB that has played 22 games with 8 bad games in his last 9 and the jury is still out but a rookie that played 4 games with one bad half and it’s set in stone that the guy can never get better.

Are you Rob Parker ?

 

[Rob0729]

Sorry 8 of his last 9

Colts
Bills
Miami
Bills
Miami
Steelers
Ravens
Bears

Only good being The jaguars which had 20 players on the Covid list and could barely field an NFL team

He played really well in the second half against the Colts and almost brought the Patriots back. Then the defense gave up a huge TD run. And the first Bills game neither team threw for much of the game because of the conditions. And he played fairly well against the Bills in the playoffs. The defense was just abismal.

And most of the games late in the season last year , the defense forced Jones to huck the ball down the field and get out of his game.

But I am not saying Mac is the answer. I am just saying Zappe isn't the answer.

 

[catent]

Some claim Zappe has limitations in his game and argue he’s therefore unplayable (or not worth playing).

I guess what I’m struggling with there, is the implication that Jones doesn’t have limitations that are (currently) making him unplayable.

IMO both clearly have a lot to work on, but I’d much rather go with the guy who has demonstrated consistently good pocket awareness, poise, field vision, timing/rhythm, and tight-window-throw ability - but lacks stature and will need to adapt to batted passes - than the guy whose current limitation is his ability to consistently operate with poise in the pocket while simultaneously keeping his eyes downfield.

When Jones gets a clean pocket and can throw in rhythm, he has the ability to be an elite pure passer of the football. Reminds me a lot of Peyton, actually, in many ways, when he’s at his best.

But being an elite passer of the football, alone, is not sufficient for being an elite quarterback.

Zappe, to my eye, has been the better quarterback.