Is Mac the guy for the future?

[Sam Bam Cunningham]

Nah young Brady got good-ish fast and got great later. In the early dynasty, he just had "intangible" "it factors" and gave Madden goosebumps. In that first Super Bowl he did great on the biggest stage, but not for being the focus of everything, for game managing until he had to play a few moments of "great." He threw one TD that day. It was always a heavy lift to establish how his good (and extremely consistent) but not great play led to the results that it did... in the beginning.

But as many here basically say, they called Brady crappy, and now they call him the GOAT. However, not every QB called crappy is subsequently called the GOAT.

It's an extension of the old saying, "They laughed at Copernicus, but they also laughed at Bozo the Clown." Here's hoping Mac Jones is a little closer to Copernicus than Bozo in this analogy.

Bozo the clown was under rated. He had a cannon for an arm and was very mobile. But he never got first team reps at practice. I think his squeaky nose and high pitched voice bothered some of his coaches.
Copernicus could really sling it though

 

[BennyBledsoe]

If I could ugh and laugh react at the same time, Sam Bam's post would qualify. Like I hate myself for laughing.

 

[Wozzy]

The fact that this thread was made about TO tells the whole story.

Nobody doubted that Brady, Mahomes, Rodgers, Wilson, Herbert, Burrows, was the guy.

In 2000 absolutely nobody thought Tom Brady was "the guy." Sight unseen every rookie has to prove themselves.

I suppose you knew JaMarcus Russell and David Carr weren't "the guy" when they were drafted 1st overall and nobody had seen them play?

I suppose after one season of throwing INT's you had some intuition that despite that, Peyton Manning and Drew Brees were "the guy?"

It's amazing how genius some people are with the gift of hindsight and knowing the results.

Mac's decision making is why he leads the NFL in interceptions after week three, not arm strength. Good grief...

 

[Rob0729]

The fact that this thread was made about TO tells the whole story.

Nobody doubted that Brady, Mahomes, Rodgers, Wilson, Herbert, Burrows, was the guy.

You need to go back to early in the 2002 season. A lot of people, especially nationally, in October and early November of 2002 questioned whether the Pats traded away the wrong QB because Bledsoe had a fast start in Buffalo while Brady struggled late September and all of October in 2002.

I just love how people rewrite history.

 

[Wozzy]

Love the mental gymnastics around here to make young Brady look bad so Mac Jones looks better.

Nobody is trying to "make Brady look bad," that's just typical fanboy tilting at windmills, attacking invisible enemies because the sacred cow's name was mentioned.

They're simply pointing out how he looked like a rookie in 2001. According to the fanboys he entered the league as a first round pick and started averaging 400 yards passing and 3 TD's a a game... like he is now in his 40's on the Tampa superteam. Tom threw one TD pass (and 1 INT) in the entire 2001 postseason, over three games, he had a 77 QB Rating. He was a game manager... sorry if that's an inconvenient truth.

What he did do was manage the offense, play efficiently, threw to the open man and largely didn't turn the ball over. This is exactly what you want from a rookie or 2nd year starter. If we got this from Mac they would be 4-0 right now. If they get it from Zappe they can win games. Brady wasn't Jesus or Superman in 2001, he was a first year starter who played efficiently... who eventually grew into the best QB in the game. He developed... wasn't born that way. Good grief... the revisionist history from the millennials is nauseating.

 

[PatsFan2]

Love the mental gymnastics around here to make young Brady look bad so Mac Jones looks better.

An absolute embarrassment to the young Brady. As weak as Brady arm might have been at the time it looked a lot stronger than the year two Mac's *arm that is*.

 

[PatsFan2]

You need to go back to early in the 2002 season. A lot of people, especially nationally, in October and early November of 2002 questioned whether the Pats traded away the wrong QB because Bledsoe had a fast start in Buffalo while Brady struggled late September and all of October in 2002.

I just love how people rewrite history.

I wasn't one of them I was Pro Brady then and still now.

 

[Rob0729]

I wasn't one of them I was Pro Brady then and still now.

I will admit at the time I thought Bledsoe was more talented, but felt Brady was a better scheme fit with the Pats. I wasn't against trading Bledsoe.

 

[PatsFan2]

I will admit at the time I thought Bledsoe was more talented, but felt Brady was a better scheme fit with the Pats. I wasn't against trading Bledsoe.

Bledsoe was more talented stronger arm and all that but we know how he folds when pressure comes up the Middle. You could see Brady's command of the pocket early on Bledsoe never had that he needed the protection to be almost perfect.

 

[203Pat]

Love the mental gymnastics around here to make young Brady look bad so Mac Jones looks better.

The Brady slander and revisionist history since Brady left have been laughable. Anyone dare give Brady any credit for 20 years of greatness they're told to "Go root for the Bucs" like you can't root for the franchise's greatest player while also being a Patriots fan. I hate the Bucs and their fans. I truly do but not as much as I like Tom Brady and root for him because of all he did here. Now we have a bunch of doofuses trying to compare Mac's stats to Brady's from 20 years ago when it might as well be a different sport.

 

[203Pat]

I will admit at the time I thought Bledsoe was more talented, but felt Brady was a better scheme fit with the Pats. I wasn't against trading Bledsoe.

I remember thinking Bledsoe was the prototype for a QB and he was also my childhood QB so I was all about him but the more and more Brady won games in 01 the harder it became to say Drew was the better QB for us. I wasn't against trading him either but it hurt to see him go to the Bills.

 

[sb1]

You need to go back to early in the 2002 season. A lot of people, especially nationally, in October and early November of 2002 questioned whether the Pats traded away the wrong QB because Bledsoe had a fast start in Buffalo while Brady struggled late September and all of October in 2002.

I just love how people rewrite history.

And Bledsoe beating us 31-0 in Buffalo in the 2003 opener was probably when the volume on that was the loudest. I remember that CBS broadcast was non stop BB bashing from start to finish.

 

[Wozzy]

Brady was once a rookie = “slander”

Don’t expect rational thought from fanboys.

 

[Wozzy]

Bledsoe was more talented stronger arm and all that but we know how he folds when pressure comes up the Middle. You could see Brady's command of the pocket early on Bledsoe never had that he needed the protection to be almost perfect.

Bledsoe wouldn’t check the ball down and take the easy efficient throws, he also threw interceptions. This is why Michael Holley said BB was thinking of switching to Brady before Drew got hurt.

Arm strength never had anything to do with it. Brady’s arm isn’t what makes him special, it’s decision making and accuracy.

 

[203Pat]

Brady was once a rookie = “slander”

Don’t expect rational thought from fanboys.

 

[Wozzy]

Facts and stats are inconvenient for you… they don’t reflect the millennial nostalgia of your memories of the early 2000’s.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Bozo the clown was under rated. He had a cannon for an arm and was very mobile. But he never got first team reps at practice. I think his squeaky nose and high pitched voice bothered some of his coaches.
Copernicus could really sling it though

Copernicus would of succeedeed for a coach who didn't think the universe revolved around him

 

[TheRainMaker]

I remember thinking Bledsoe was the prototype for a QB and he was also my childhood QB so I was all about him but the more and more Brady won games in 01 the harder it became to say Drew was the better QB for us. I wasn't against trading him either but it hurt to see him go to the Bills.

Yup, I was a die hard Bledsoe fan, even though he would throw his famous INT’s to the MLB. I didn’t care for Brady much until they won the Super Bowl with him. How weird would it have been had Brady’s ankle not been good enough to go against the Rams, but they still won with Drew? Now that would be a tough decision for Bill.

 

[PatsFan2]

Yup, I was a die hard Bledsoe fan, even though he would throw his famous INT’s to the MLB. I didn’t care for Brady much until they won the Super Bowl with him. How weird would it have been had Brady’s ankle not been good enough to go against the Rams, but they still won with Drew? Now that would be a tough decision for Bill.

Couldn't see Drew getting us in a winning position on that masterful game ending drive that lead to Adam's FG.

 

[Rob0729]

Bledsoe was more talented stronger arm and all that but we know how he folds when pressure comes up the Middle. You could see Brady's command of the pocket early on Bledsoe never had that he needed the protection to be almost perfect.

The problem wasn't that he folded with pressure up the middle. It was he was from a bygone era that was changing around this time where the defense got way too fast for the 5-7 drop pure pocket passers. Bledsoe came from an era where a QB could have 3-4 seconds to drop back and make a pass. The game was speeding up where QBs needed to get rid of the ball closer to two seconds. Defenses just got too fast for Bledsoe.