Predictions for Bucs record and Brady's stats 2022

[Guts]

Buccaneers team writer Brianna Dix. Nice.

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[crawhammer]

The censorship that takes place on this forum (blatant deletion of entire posts), and subsequent banishment from threads is RIDICULOUS. It's also ridiculous that the Administrator of the forum tells me repeatedly that he's against this practice of deleting posts by his Moderators but then allows it to continue. I don't get it, adults can't engage with opposing points of view without the risk of being biasedly and abruptly removed from the conversation. Doesn't this place have Ignore and Mute options? Use them if you don't like what you're reading. I don't want to hear "you're repeating yourself" either because a vast majority of members here are saying some variation of the same thing OVER and OVER and OVER again. And not even the curtesy of a "warning" or (unreasonably) explanation of why the deletion and/or ban is taking place. Total horsesh!t. I didn't say anything personally offensive or inappropriate in those posts that were deleted either.

Probably this post will vanish too for no valid reason but I'm going to reply to comments here because "I have insufficient privileges to post" in the actual thread.

Mac will never be MVP Cam Newton either.

True that, however Cam's numbers were massively inflated that one season due to an unusually high TD% for him (7.1%). His career TD% is much lower (4.3%). He's also completed less than 60% of his pass attempts so he's pretty much a below average (contemporary) passing quarterback for his career. He was a total stiff with _ _ _ _.

Another fact: Josh Allen will never be the dual threat Cam Newton was. Or Kyler Murray is. Or even Justin Fields will be. Those guys are all enormously faster than Josh Allen and his 4.76s 40 time. Even Mac at 4.68s is way faster than Allen.

I suppose whatever the stopwatch says is irrelevant. Allen is a highly talented rushing quarterback. He's also turned into a much better passer than Newton. Murray's getting better and should be an awesome dual threat quarterback... overall Allen is better right now. I don't know about Fields, he looked like rubbish last season and that offense in general is pretty bad.

Mac's development obviously is going to be a huge determinant for the Patriots if they have any chance of competing with Allen and Buffalo over the next handful of seasons anyway.

Every thread you contribute to becomes a Brady ***********, then you blame the posters you wrangle into this stupidity.

You're a genius too... rag on me for Brady talk then reference him multiple times in your post.

or a decade between 2005-2013 while Brady was one of the highest paid players in the league he won zero Super Bowls... you can't even get your fan fiction right. He's played 21 seasons and won 7 rings... if all you needed to win rings was "Brady magic" he would have closer to 21 rings... he doesn't.

Actually it's 20 seasons, 10 Super Bowl appearances, 7 Super Bowl rings, and 5 Super Bowl MVPs. If Brady isn't unusually special then name any other player in the history of the NFL who parallels his success. Or even comes close.

When Brady was on his rookie contract they won 3 rings, when he agreed to take a little less and the team borrowed from future cap from 2014-2019 he won three more... in comparison Mahomes won a single ring on his rookie contract... despite Mahomes having better stats... Tom played on better teams. You don't understand football, you believe in super heroes, in magic.... why does Brady have 7 rings?

6 game-winning Super Bowl drives in 6 Super Bowl appearances with the Patriots is pretty heroic. He's got more than double the postseason game-winning drives (14) than the next guy Elway (6). Mahomes is stuck on 1 ring because Brady beat him twice in the postseason.

Stop being a coward and answer the question I've asked twice, which you've ignored and erased in your responses.

What's the ultimate goal of all 32 teams?

To find the next Tom Brady.

 

[Wozzy]

The censorship that takes place on this forum (blatant deletion of entire posts), and subsequent banishment from threads is RIDICULOUS. It's also ridiculous that the Administrator of the forum tells me repeatedly that he's against this practice of deleting posts by his Moderators but then allows it to continue. I don't get it, adults can't engage with opposing points of view without the risk of being biasedly and abruptly removed from the conversation. Doesn't this place have Ignore and Mute options? Use them if you don't like what you're reading. I don't want to hear "you're repeating yourself" either because a vast majority of members here are saying some variation of the same thing OVER and OVER and OVER again. And not even the curtesy of a "warning" or (unreasonably) explanation of why the deletion and/or ban is taking place. Total horsesh!t. I didn't say anything personally offensive or inappropriate in those posts that were deleted either.

The answer is simple, go to the Buc’s forum… and not the one the mods built for you here because you’re too immature to discuss the Pats rationally but the actual Buc’s forum…. it where you really want to be anyhow. But you better enjoy it now, after this season you’re probably rooting for Blaine Gabbart and at that point we won’t really want you Benedict Arnolds back.

Probably this post will vanish too for no valid reason but I'm going to reply to comments here because "I have insufficient privileges to post" in the actual thread.

Persecution complex much? Imagine mods wanting people to talk about the Pats on a Pats forum… instead of waxing poetic about the magic powers of a former player whose been gone for years now.

True that, however Cam's numbers were massively inflated that one season due to an unusually high TD% for him (7.1%). His career TD% is much lower (4.3%). He's also completed less than 60% of his pass attempts so he's pretty much a below average (contemporary) passing quarterback for his career. He was a total stiff with _ _ _ _.

So are Lamar Jackson’s… his QB Rating was about the same last year as Mac’s versus man coverage lol.

Mac's development obviously is going to be a huge determinant for the Patriots if they have any chance of competing with Allen and Buffalo over the next handful of seasons anyway.

It was going to be important anyway, regardless of other teams in the division. But becoming a better team from 1-53 is just as important. Deshaun Watson led the NFL in passing and won 4 games, this isn’t singles tennis.

You're a genius too... rag on me for Brady talk then reference him multiple times in your post.

Every. Thread. You. Enter…

But especially ones about Mac and how he might turn out decent. You’re really invested in knocking him and BB down… that’s why people here question your fandom.

Actually it's 20 seasons, 10 Super Bowl appearances, 7 Super Bowl rings, and 5 Super Bowl MVPs. If Brady isn't unusually special then name any other player in the history of the NFL who parallels his success. Or even comes close.

The graphic I posted above showing the massive advantages he played with defensively and didn’t include OLine, weapons and special teams advantages blows your magic QB theory out of the water. There’s nothing more to say, Tom never played defense in his life.

6 game-winning Super Bowl drives in 6 Super Bowl appearances with the Patriots is pretty heroic. He's got more than double the postseason game-winning drives (14) than the next guy Elway (6). Mahomes is stuck on 1 ring because Brady beat him twice in the postseason.

I’m sure the Patriots defense played a part in stifling Mahomes… a large part.

To find the next Tom Brady.

BB is 70 years old, a pairing of perfect underdog QB and Coach will probably never happen or last that long again. Mac doesn’t have to be Brady, he has to become the best he can be. It will be up to the team to put a Super Bowl winning roster around him at that point. That’s why TB12 has 7 rings, his teams were great and he matched their greatness. Football is the ultimate team sport.

 

[PatsWSB47]

Wozzy, you don't give Brady enough credit. Crawhammer, you don't give Belichick enough credit.

 

[venecol]

The answer is simple, go to the Buc’s forum… and not the one the mods built for you here because you’re too immature to discuss the Pats rationally but the actual Buc’s forum…. it where you really want to be anyhow. But you better enjoy it now, after this season you’re probably rooting for Blaine Gabbart and at that point we won’t really want you Benedict Arnolds back.

Persecution complex much? Imagine mods wanting people to talk about the Pats on a Pats forum… instead of waxing poetic about the magic powers of a former player whose been gone for years now.

So are Lamar Jackson’s… his QB Rating was about the same last year as Mac’s versus man coverage lol.

It was going to be important anyway, regardless of other teams in the division. But becoming a better team from 1-53 is just as important. Deshaun Watson led the NFL in passing and won 4 games, this isn’t singles tennis.

Every. Thread. You. Enter…

But especially ones about Mac and how he might turn out decent. You’re really invested in knocking him and BB down… that’s why people here question your fandom.

The graphic I posted above showing the massive advantages he played with defensively and didn’t include OLine, weapons and special teams advantages blows your magic QB theory out of the water. There’s nothing more to say, Tom never played defense in his life.

I’m sure the Patriots defense played a part in stifling Mahomes… a large part.

BB is 70 years old, a pairing of perfect underdog QB and Coach will probably never happen or last that long again. Mac doesn’t have to be Brady, he has to become the best he can be. It will be up to the team to put a Super Bowl winning roster around him at that point. That’s why TB12 has 7 rings, his teams were great and he matched their greatness. Football is the ultimate team sport.

Hypocrite.

 

[crawhammer]

The answer is simple, go to the Buc’s forum… and not the one the mods built for you here because you’re too immature to discuss the Pats rationally but the actual Buc’s forum…. it where you really want to be anyhow. But you better enjoy it now, after this season you’re probably rooting for Blaine Gabbart and at that point we won’t really want you Benedict Arnolds back.

For what it's worth I've probably invested more sweat and tears (and money) into the Patriots organization than you. I'm not a Bucs fan either. My loyalty there is only with Brady so once he retires they can go 0-17 for the decade. Maturity and rationality? Don't make me laugh. You are apparently so feeble you can't even handle a genuinely stated opposing point of view. Calling me names and saying I should just go away. Christ just put me on Ignore or whatever asinine option was created for people who can't handle open discussion on a public forum.

How's this for a simple answer?... Let people express their point of view in a respectful and civilized manner. Deleting someone's post, which they've invested thought and time into, is entirely disrespectful. And if one of the rules here is "you must only praise the head coach and (current) quarterback" then it should be made clearly aware to the membership.

Persecution complex much? Imagine mods wanting people to talk about the Pats on a Pats forum… instead of waxing poetic about the magic powers of a former player whose been gone for years now.

I posted a ranking of all current starting NFL quarterbacks. Everything I posted thereafter was in the flow of conversation. I've had many posts deleted over the last several months, none of which had any inappropriate or disrespectful language or commentary. I've had the Administrator tell me he doesn't understand why my posts are getting deleted and he undeleted ones that he could find. It's annoying getting booted out of a conversation for no apparent reason whatsoever other than I'm not deferring every football notion I may have to Belichick's rings.

But especially ones about Mac and how he might turn out decent. You’re really invested in knocking him and BB down… that’s why people here question your fandom.

Mac had a good rookie season but he crapped out with the rest of the team with the 1-4 finish. Still he's already decent and no doubt will get better. But I don't see him entering top 10 discussion. He should get firmly into the 10-15 discussion (I have him at 16 currently) but there are too many other more talented quarterbacks with higher ceilings for him to crack the top 10. IN MY OPINION. It's not an attempt to "knock him down." As for Bill, there's low hanging fruit all over the place so I don't have to reach very far. Ultimately in my book he has to win a division and/or at least reach one Super Bowl with another quarterback to prove he can do it without Brady.

 

[ashley]

For what it's worth I've probably invested more sweat and tears (and money) into the Patriots organization than you. I'm not a Bucs fan either. My loyalty there is only with Brady so once he retires they can go 0-17 for the decade. Maturity and rationality? Don't make me laugh. You are apparently so feeble you can't even handle a genuinely stated opposing point of view. Calling me names and saying I should just go away. Christ just put me on Ignore or whatever asinine option was created for people who can't handle open discussion on a public forum.

How's this for a simple answer?... Let people express their point of view in a respectful and civilized manner. Deleting someone's post, which they've invested thought and time into, is entirely disrespectful. And if one of the rules here is "you must only praise the head coach and (current) quarterback" then it should be made clearly aware to the membership.


I posted a ranking of all current starting NFL quarterbacks. Everything I posted thereafter was in the flow of conversation. I've had many posts deleted over the last several months, none of which had any inappropriate or disrespectful language or commentary. I've had the Administrator tell me he doesn't understand why my posts are getting deleted and he undeleted ones that he could find. It's annoying getting booted out of a conversation for no apparent reason whatsoever other than I'm not deferring every football notion I may have to Belichick's rings.


Mac had a good rookie season but he crapped out with the rest of the team with the 1-4 finish. Still he's already decent and no doubt will get better. But I don't see him entering top 10 discussion. He should get firmly into the 10-15 discussion (I have him at 16 currently) but there are too many other more talented quarterbacks with higher ceilings for him to crack the top 10. IN MY OPINION. It's not an attempt to "knock him down." As for Bill, there's low hanging fruit all over the place so I don't have to reach very far. Ultimately in my book he has to win a division and/or at least reach one Super Bowl with another quarterback to prove he can do it without Brady.

We've had this conversation in private before...you've gotten booted because I get the second most complaints about you as a poster, and you're a one trick pony (bash BB and compare him to TB)...You've been warned many times so don't play the martyr. If you want to root for TB and Tampa, that's fine, but remember, this is a NE Patriot forum and if you keep posting negative things about the BB, Mac, the team and their drafts, you are going to ruffle a lot of feathers.
Ian is a great admin who has a lot of patience. I think your trolling has gone far enough. Just today I received 8 PM's about your posts.
If this forum and the admins are so "horrible" why stay here posting, why not go somewhere else?

 

[venecol]

Wait so all it takes is 8 posters complaining about another poster to get him booted from a thread? Where is that in the rules?

Craw always offers serious debate, backed up by stats. He doesn't throw insults around. Yet, because others don't like what he says, he gets booted?

I have a suggestion. Next time those 8 posters complain, how about telling them to "mute" him or put him on ignore. @Ian spent a lot of manhours making the mute function work. It works.

It shouldn't be the mods role to boot ppl from threads to cleanse it from opinions not favorable to the coach.

While we're at it, there's a clear pattern of guys like Mac10 and Wussie of being the first to bring up Brady or the Bucs in unrelated threads, which is followed by replies, but only the replies are being punished or frowned upon. How about asking those two to stop baiting ppl. Mac10 is a known troll but guaranteed he's one of the 8 ppl that complained because that's what he does.

This isn't a safe zone. This is a god damn football forum. As long as ppl are discussing football, what is the reason to ban them from threads?

I criticize BB all the time. So do many others. Why aren't we being banned? Seems like double standards are being applied.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Wait so all it takes is 8 posters complaining about another poster to get him booted from a thread? Where is that in the rules?

Craw always offers serious debate, backed up by stats. He doesn't throw insults around. Yet, because others don't like what he says, he gets booted?

I have a suggestion. Next time those 8 posters complain, how about telling them to "mute" him or put him on ignore. @Ian spent a lot of manhours making the mute function work. It works.

It shouldn't be the mods role to boot ppl from threads to cleanse it from opinions not favorable to the coach.

So the guy who complains about me in other threads is now telling other posters to use the mute function...and the guy who accuses me of going to the mods (I haven't gone to the mods once BTW) is now tagging Ian.

While we're at it, there's a clear pattern of guys like Mac10 and Wussie of being the first to bring up Brady or the Bucs in unrelated threads, which is followed by replies, but only the replies are being punished or frowned upon. How about asking those two to stop baiting ppl. Mac10 is a known troll but guaranteed he's one of the 8 ppl that complained because that's what he does.

To quote you, " how about telling them to "mute" him or put him on ignore. Ian spent a lot of manhours making the mute function work. It works."

 

[Guts]

We've had this conversation in private before...you've gotten booted because I get the second most complaints about you as a poster, and you're a one trick pony (bash BB and compare him to TB)...You've been warned many times so don't play the martyr. If you want to root for TB and Tampa, that's fine, but remember, this is a NE Patriot forum and if you keep posting negative things about the BB, Mac, the team and their drafts, you are going to ruffle a lot of feathers.
Ian is a great admin who has a lot of patience. I think your trolling has gone far enough. Just today I received 8 PM's about your posts.
If this forum and the admins are so "horrible" why stay here posting, why not go somewhere else?

I rarely care about stuff like this, but there's a handful of posters that instigate the Brady hate too. I could care less you guys made the subforum and honestly it's worked so far, but if you're going to call out crawhammer trolling you should call out the other posters trolling as well.

 

[PatsWSB47]

MAC10 belittles posters, he laughs at a lot of their posts and pretty much non stop trolls anyone who is a fan of Tom Brady.

 

[VectorPrime]

And the admins and mods love it.

 

[ashley]

Craw always offers serious debate, backed up by stats. He doesn't throw insults around. Yet, because others don't like what he says, he gets booted?


I criticize BB all the time. So do many others. Why aren't we being banned? Seems like double standards are being applied.

Let's be honest, he's a troll and a one trick pony. If he offers serious debate and good content, he will not get banned.

I personally think you're a good poster and bring good thoughts/insight to the forum. I don't get complaints about you and don't think your a troll. Hope that answers your question.

 

[catent]

There’s, what, one single poster who genuinely dislikes and disparages Brady. One. There are a handful more who probably sell him short and don’t give him the credit he deserves, but I count exactly ONE (1) poster who actively dislikes and trolls Brady.

On the other hand, there are a minimum of 5 posters (likely closer to 8-10) who genuinely dislike Belichick and want to tell the world about it every waking second.

Bit of a false equivalence IMO. Belichick gets more sh*t here, both in terms of scope and severity, than Brady does. And there’s no good reason for it (nor is there any good reason to disparage Brady, either).

 

[PatsWSB47]

And

There’s, what, one single poster who genuinely dislikes and disparages Brady. One. There are a handful more who probably sell him short and don’t give him the credit he deserves, but I count exactly ONE (1) poster who actively dislikes and trolls Brady.

On the other hand, there are a minimum of 5 posters (likely closer to 8-10) who genuinely dislike Belichick and want to tell the world about it every waking second.

Bit of a false equivalence IMO. Belichick gets more sh*t here, both in terms of scope and severity, than Brady does. And there’s no good reason for it (nor is there any good reason to disparage Brady, either).

Let's be honest, he's a troll and a one trick pony. If he offers serious debate and good content, he will not get banned.

I personally think you're a good poster and bring good thoughts/insight to the forum. I don't get complaints about you and don't think your a troll. Hope that answers your question.

Maybe so but MAC10 is as well. Why no one trick poney troll assessment for him?

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Maybe so but MAC10 is as well. Why no one trick poney troll assessment for him?

Because i talk Patriots football on this board, quite a bit. Much more so than any of the Bucs posters and certainly more than Crawhammer. In fact Crawhammer only comes on the main board if the discussion involves Brady. So Ashley is 100% correct in her assessment that he is a 1 trick pony.

MAC10 belittles posters, he laughs at a lot of their posts and pretty much non stop trolls anyone who is a fan of Tom Brady.

Laughing at a post is belittling the poster? No, belittling a poster is when Venecol and you make personal attacks. And belittling a poster is calling them Dipshit10 or Mac10yearold, like you do...

 

[crawhammer]

Let's be honest, he's a troll and a one trick pony.

Explanation please. Just a couple of sentences that justify you calling me a troll.

A lot members seem to agree with some of my content and echo some of the same sentiments about Brady, Belichick and the team. I resource most of my posts with data so it's not like I'm making arbitrarily arguments. You're just totally wrong about me. Other posters supposedly complaining about me is no excuse for a moderator to delete my posts and call me out in the forum as a troll. Not once in our private conversations have you ever accused me of being a troll. In fact our conversations have been entirely cordial. As for deleting my posts, basically you've told me something along the lines of "I had to because of the complaints." You also told me months ago that you wouldn't delete anymore of my posts... that didn't last very long. Yes, I complained to Ian, and I was told he couldn't find a justification for the deletions. He subsequently undeleted some posts at that time. You gave yourself away in your reply to venecol in saying "I personally."

By the way venecol, I appreciate you backing me up.

You've been warned many times

By who? Where?

If you want to root for TB and Tampa, that's fine, but remember, this is a NE Patriot forum and if you keep posting negative things about the BB, Mac, the team and their drafts, you are going to ruffle a lot of feathers.

And? You want me to lie?

I've acknowledged Belichick has the accomplishments of a great head coach.
I've commented on some of Mac's strengths and have stated he had a good rookie season.
I've said a million positive things about the team including every time I complement anything Brady did in a Patriots uniform.
I've critiqued the drafts along with everyone else... Belichick gets dumped on all the time with his poor drafts so I'm hardly alone here.

If this forum and the admins are so "horrible" why stay here posting, why not go somewhere else?

I didn't say anyone was "horrible" so that's a false quote. If you're the one deleting my posts and banning me from threads then... well you can figure out the rest.

 

[venecol]

Because i talk Patriots football on this board, quite a bit. Much more so than any of the Bucs posters and certainly more than Crawhammer. In fact Crawhammer only comes on the main board if the discussion involves Brady. So Ashley is 100% correct in her assessment that he is a 1 trick pony.

Lol. What you do is bring up Brady a/o Bucs in totally unrelated threads to garner reactions. Everyone knows this. You're 100% obsessed with Brady and do nothing but troll about him.

Here's just one of multiple daily examples of your sh*t. In a thread about MIA signing Sanu, you bring up Brady simply to troll and bait posters.

Be Very Afraid! ‘Phins Sign Sanu

He had nothing left in the tank three years ago. Has shown nothing since. Go Miami! Dolphins Reportedly Sign Ex-Patriots Receiver To Further Bolster Group

www.patsfans.com

You're the one trick pony. Constantly baiting posters (which is against the rules) & trolling (also against forum rules). Hell, you've even bragged about openly trolling multiple times.

Yet, whenever anyone reacts to your lame posts and you get schooled, you immediately tag @ashley1992 to try to get that poster tossed from the thread. It's what you openly do with zero consequence.

I suspect it's only because your target is Brady, so most don't care, certainly not the mods.

I personally don't care about your lame trolling & rather enjoy making fun of you. However, when you bait ppl and then turn around and try to get them banned, and the mods bite, that's where this whole mess is fv*ked up.

Either let everyone troll or no one troll. You can't selectively enforce the rules based on the target of the troll.

BTW, your contributions to football discussions is lame at best. At least Craw offers good historical facts and stats to counter the haters, which in and of itself, adds value.

You otoh offer nothing but bull sh*t. Now go f_ck yourself.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Lol. What you do is bring up Brady a/o Bucs in totally unrelated threads to garner reactions. Everyone knows this. You're 100% obsessed with Brady and do nothing but troll about him.

Here's just one of multiple daily examples of your sh*t. In a thread about MIA signing Sanu, you bring up Brady simply to troll and bait posters.

Be Very Afraid! ‘Phins Sign Sanu

He had nothing left in the tank three years ago. Has shown nothing since. Go Miami! Dolphins Reportedly Sign Ex-Patriots Receiver To Further Bolster Group

www.patsfans.com

You're the one trick pony. Constantly baiting posters (which is against the rules) & trolling (also against forum rules). Hell, you've even bragged about openly trolling multiple times.

And you do nothing but troll about Bill...so why complain about me? And it seems like you have trouble understanding what the definition of a one trick pony is.

Yet, whenever anyone reacts to your lame posts and you get schooled, you immediately tag @ashley1992 to try to get that poster tossed from the thread. It's what you openly do with zero consequence.

Nope. I never complain to or tag Ashley. You've done it multiple times. And you've done it again in this post.

I personally don't care about your lame trolling

Obviously you do because you keep responding to me.

BTW, your contributions to football discussions is lame at best. At least Craw offers good historical facts and stats to counter the haters, which in and of itself, adds value.

Oh really. My threads generate a great deal of discussion, for the most part, including the one on Bill praising Mac. And the only people who care about Craw's posts are you and maybe 6-7 other Bradyites. When I bring up Montana's stats, you say it's trolling or post lame pictures of a fat guy simply because you can't respond...

 

[ashley]

By who? Where?

You're joking right? You've been warned by both myself and Ian. You were actually banned for two weeks I believe. Because you begged Ian you'd be on your best behavior, he let you back on here, which I wouldn't have. Don't lie, I can't stand liars. This is your last warning.