NFL News Semi OT: Flores suing NFL and NYG. Texts from Bill involved in the suit.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Of course he's alleging that. You can make a "racism" claim whenever something is less than swimmingly.

Hate it when something is less than swimmingly.

 

[SVN]

 

[carmelo15]

Let’s not be stupid here the nfl probably knew about these claims coming the second it happened they didn’t find out today or yesterday

 

[bigballas]

Pats are the most racist team? Curious on this take besides the tired as hell Boston is the most racist place in the world stuff.

it was more tongue-in-cheek on my part and more to do with the boston media/sport "scene"..as you say "tired as hell" but there is a lot of truth to it as well.

that said, more importantly i think what should be noted is that the "poor collaboration" was with the GM who also happens to be black and longer tenured with the dolphins.

also, Flores spent 3 season without getting to the playoff before getting fired. it is inline with all other coaches and longer than several recent tenures by white coaches.

 

[upstater1]

So what you are saying is white people are so racist that 3 years in advance they hire a black coach so he can take them to the SB then another playoff berth because they knew by year 3 Manning would have a career threatening injury so they would want to tank for luck so hire the black guy so we can get him to lose games?

What are you even talking about here? 3 years in advance what?

I'm saying you don't ask that question of a coach who is building a legacy and career.

Are you asking me if Caldwell was disrespected? YES. Obviously. He was fired when they deliberately tanked it Ridiculous. Do I think race was a factor in that decision? Of course. It doesn't mean there is no white guy they'd do it to. But Ross thought so little of Flores they were prepared to make him the fall guy. Does he do that to Shanahan? Saban?

 

[farn]

Maybe I should be a better / bigger person. But this tweet really, really angers me. It is the crux of the hypocrisy/corruption. They don’t even want to dig into the allegation for their precious integrity ?

 

[carmelo15]

So… the MFer was Tua? Lol

At this point the dolphins owner should be applauded he wanted to tank for Burrow or get Brady

 

[upstater1]

I don’t know how many times I can say it, Daboll was not hired until after Flores interview. “I think they knew they were going to” isn’t a fact of relevance.

Bizarre response. We're talking about Flores's allegations. Can't even imagination what's going on in your head here.

 

[upstater1]

What are you blabbing about ?
Dungy pushed for this guy to succeed him

He went to the SB.

Peyton hurt all year and 2-14 is the result

Do you not realize they tanked it on purpose and they fired Caldwell?

 

[bormio]

You may think the Rooney Rule is stupid, but it is an NFL policy. And teams are thumbing their nose at it in embarrassing ways. Failure to follow a stated policy is dangerous legally.

 

[Joker]

Let’s not be stupid here the nfl probably knew about these claims coming the second it happened they didn’t find out today or yesterday

Of course they knew...Scumdell and the ruling monarchs of the NFL are always preaching "equita!" "social justice warriorism!!!" while ALWAYS protecting their bottom line and their plantation mentality. The Feds should have ripped 345 Park Avenue apart 15 years ago on RICO violations. Isn't it handy there's a "racism!!!!" issue today to mask their incredibly criminal behavior since the Goon was snuck in as Ommisioner. Sit back and watch the dog and pony and ...ignore the real racist POS's trying to drive a wedge between NFL fans because of their skin color. That is REPUGNANT on its' face.

 

[Joker]

You may think the Rooney Rule is stupid, but it is an NFL policy. And teams are thumbing their nose at it in embarrassing ways. Failure to follow a stated policy is dangerous legally.

No owner has followed the Rooney Rule since Rooney died.

 

[Ring 6]

What are you even talking about here? 3 years in advance what?

I'm saying you don't ask that question of a coach who is building a legacy and career.

Are you asking me if Caldwell was disrespected? YES. Obviously. He was fired when they deliberately tanked it Ridiculous. Do I think race was a factor in that decision? Of course. It doesn't mean there is no white guy they'd do it to. But Ross thought so little of Flores they were prepared to make him the fall guy. Does he do that to Shanahan? Saban?

Caldwell was hired 3 years before.

It is racist for you to suggest the decision if ranking has anything to do with who the coach is, and it is very telling that you see black coaches as potential fall guys but think it’s incomprehensible to ask a white guy.

 

[ralmat55]

??? What are you even talking about, have you lost your mind?

I can't believe someone here seriously believes Flores doesn't have the clearly established better credentials. This is insane.

Flores refused to throw games. Pederson threw the last game of the 2020 season and was still fired.

 

[bormio]

No owner has followed the Rooney Rule since Rooney died.

Has anyone sued until now? That probably is a poor defense in court

 

[Ring 6]

Bizarre response. We're talking about Flores's allegations. Can't even imagination what's going on in your head here.

We are talking about your comment that they didn’t complete the process despite interviewing Flores before actually hiring Daboll.
The accusation doesn’t stand up to the facts. The “proof” is rumor. Thee we facts conflict with it.

 

[upstater1]

Caldwell was hired 3 years before.

It is racist for you to suggest the decision if ranking has anything to do with who the coach is, and it is very telling that you see black coaches as potential fall guys but think it’s incomprehensible to ask a white guy.

A. You don't know what the word racist means.

B. There's a disgusting pattern of racism here among the hiring of coaches that's clearly in evidence, and people on this thread have been uttering hideously shameful racist things.

C. Flores is clearly responding to the level of clear animus these schlubs are showing for the Rooney rule and care for the NFL's huge race problem in general.

Marcus Spears said it pretty well on ESPN.

 

[Ring 6]

Flores refused to throw games. Pederson threw the last game of the 2020 season and was still fired.

Pederson made the playoffs 3 times in 5 years and won a Sb. Flores made the playoffs 0 times in 3 years. There isn’t an argument about who is more qualified based upon their resume.

 

[upstater1]

We are talking about your comment that they didn’t complete the process despite interviewing Flores before actually hiring Daboll.
The accusation doesn’t stand up to the facts. The “proof” is rumor. Thee we facts conflict with it.

Holy cow: I'm saying it's clear this is what Flores is alleging.

 

[Give Kraft A Hand]

I wouldn’t say it’s tired actually.

It’s still a problem. There are several current accounts of folks saying bostons racist.

They hide behind the immigrant stuff, the John Kerry stuff, the colleges, their juxtaposition against the south in general.

That’s why it’s such an enigma. It’s not tired at all.

In fact, European immigrants were some of the most racist towards blacks because socioeconomically, psychologically… they needed someone under them and a common enemy/scapegoat. They could put their respective differences aside and say “at least I ain’t no _, this is my job/neighborhood/school, not yours”.

They wasted what could’ve been a political alliance against white supremacy for the sake of passing. Look at the Cubans in Florida today.

Cornell west points out “**** whatever you were. You’re off the boat - you’re white now”. That was the olive branch handed to Irish/eastern euro/fair skinned Latino folk from the ruling white elite.

You wanna roll your eyes at that scene in GF2 when the Senator looks down on Italians like ok boo hoo dude.

In the south replace that immigrant/poor while demographic with poor descendants of English ppl (in the Midwest you got Germanic ppl), paddy rollers, overseers who couldn’t afford to own land and slaves… you New Englanders tend to look down on them as rednecks but it’s all the same from the AA perspective.

If anything blue state, neoliberal racism has become more sinister and less dealt with in the post-trump era because they can have a black sheep to poke fun at but then vote against voting rights, or generally speaking uphold the antebellum constructs that prevent blacks (and poor whit ppl) from reforming society.

It’s a family business…

The tired comment wasn't intended to mean that Boston isn't racist. But, is it the only racist place in America? Absolutely not. I'm part Hispanic, I've probably been harassed more in TX FL and CA than MA. But all good I guess.

People are going to be racist if thats what they know. It sucks balls. I had someone tell me that the taco truck is over there during a conference in San Fran. I'm not even Mexican. I'm Puerto Rican. Point is racists are morons.

PS: I do love Tacos