If OBJ is released by the Browns and is unclaimed, do you want him in NE on the cheap? (Update: Signed by Rams)

[sb1]

Well that's it then. Move on folks nothing more to see here...

 

[Hammer of Thor]

Well that's it then. Move on folks nothing more to see here...

I don’t think anyone ever thought the Patriots would claim him. The thought was that the contract was too burdensome for anyone to want to claim him, so he would clear waivers and then be able to sign with anyone. And they’d be able to fit him at that point since they could structure the contract their own way.

 

[SlowGettingUp]

I don’t think anyone ever thought the Patriots would claim him. The thought was that the contract was too burdensome for anyone to want to claim him, so he would clear waivers and then be able to sign with anyone. And they’d be able to fit him at that point since they could structure the contract their own way.

Exactly. The Browns and he deliberately structured the deal so that nobody would even vaguely think about claiming him.

So then it will become a negotiation after tomorrow - where does he want to go, and who will offer the most for him. But I think his priority is finding the right fit rather than getting paid this year. Bill in his comments cited other players that they brought in late in the year that worked out well for both sides. That's a sign that he's definitely interested if the price is right.

The difference between OBJ and Agholor is that OBJ can win on a quick route as well. So he would have been useful even in a game like yesterday's where Mac had little time to throw.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

Tomorrow after 4PM either nobody will have claimed him, or a bad team will have claimed him, he will balk at going there, and then he will be released again come Wednesday.

 

[Patsgofor4]

This notion that he is washed is out if touch with reality

2018 (last year with Giants with over-the-hill Eli as his QB):
77 for
1,052 (13.7 ypc) and 6TDs *in only 12 games*.

2019: 74 rec for 1,035 yds (14 ypc with long of 89 yds) and 4 TDs

is he still struggling to recover from his ACL injury? That I don’t know.

As a guy who has the ability to play inside and outside with elite YAC ability, he is in some ways perfect for the Pats offense. People love to write that he freelances but we have no idea to what extent that is true or if it is true at all. He'll never be the guy that he was during his early Giants days but he would still give them a potential difference maker in the passing game, which they currently lack.

Bill is usually spot-on when it comes to establish veterans and how they will fit in in the locker room and on the practice field (ie. will they buy in to the Patriots “culture”). I trust him to properly gauge whether OBJ is a personality and scheme fit for this year's team and whether he is likely to have a positive or negative affect on Mac and his development. In other words, I will be fine if they decide to aggressively pursue him and also if they pass on him.

 

[crownontherocks]

 

[SHOWTIME15]

if it’s between us and the Saints I would think NE has an edge with Jameis on IR…

 

[Betterthanmost]

I think we have already been in contact. It is happening. This is going to be lit.........................................
Harrison 2.0
I sometimes listen to Scott Pioli and he sometimes gives insight into the clandestine moves this team makes.

 

[TBR]

That's not a credible source.

 

[Patsgofor4]

I have a hard time taking this source seriously, when it uses the words there are "expected interset" in the tweet.

 

[signbabybrady]

That's not a credible source.

Is Trent credible tho?

 

[patsinthesnow]

Schefter mentioned the saints, seahawks & pats pregame as teams interested FWIW

 

[PP2]

He officially hit waivers at 4pm today so the deadline is pushed to 4pm tomorrow.. definitely not playing this coming Sunday.

 

[Patsgofor4]

Pete deluding himself that the Seahawks and their slapd*ck OL and defense can contend in the NFC. He’s gonna ruin everything by claiming OBJ on waivers.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

This notion that he is washed is out if touch with reality

2018 (last year with Giants with over-the-hill Eli as his QB):
77 for
1,052 (13.7 ypc) and 6TDs *in only 12 games*.

2019: 74 rec for 1,035 yds (14 ypc with long of 89 yds) and 4 TDs

is he still struggling to recover from his ACL injury? That I don’t know.

As a guy who has the ability to play inside and outside with elite YAC ability, he is in some ways perfect for the Pats offense. People love to write that he freelances but we have no idea to what extent that is true or if it is true at all. He'll never be the guy that he was during his early Giants days but he would still give them a potential difference maker in the passing game, which they currently lack.

Bill is usually spot-on when it comes to establish veterans and how they will fit in in the locker room and on the practice field (ie. will they buy in to the Patriots “culture”). I trust him to properly gauge whether OBJ is a personality and scheme fit for this year's team and whether he is likely to have a positive or negative affect on Mac and his development. In other words, I will be fine if they decide to aggressively pursue him and also if they pass on him.

I don’t think he’s washed. I think he’s far from his prime, but that doesn’t mean he can’t contribute anything. I posted earlier about his yards/target and how his efficiency has gone down. Since the injuries started in his third season, his yardage totals have been more than anything about a high volume of targets.

He’s 29. Even without injuries, a wide receiver so reliant on speed and acceleration is likely to slow down.

Pete deluding himself that the Seahawks and their slapd*ck OL and defense can contend in the NFC. He’s gonna ruin everything by claiming OBJ on waivers.

Claiming him on waivers would seem stupid, but I think Seattle‘s offense is a good landing spot for him. It isn’t their OL; Wilson loves to weave and dodge and look for broken plays on improv. And since it seems Beckham isn’t so good with route discipline, this would be seem ideal. Also, they have two other WRs who defenses will need to defend first.

Sure, Bill may see a great fit, and if OBJ is fairly cheap, then I’d love to see that move.

 

[BTTA]

Exactly. The Browns and he deliberately structured the deal so that nobody would even vaguely think about claiming him.

So then it will become a negotiation after tomorrow - where does he want to go, and who will offer the most for him. But I think his priority is finding the right fit rather than getting paid this year. Bill in his comments cited other players that they brought in late in the year that worked out well for both sides. That's a sign that he's definitely interested if the price is right.

The difference between OBJ and Agholor is that OBJ can win on a quick route as well. So he would have been useful even in a game like yesterday's where Mac had little time to throw.

I thought that he was pressured on less than 25% of the drop backs.

 

[slash83]

If it’s Seattle OBJ would be the 3rd option behind DK and Lockett. Come to NE and become the best WR on the team.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Pete deluding himself that the Seahawks and their slapd*ck OL and defense can contend in the NFC. He’s gonna ruin everything by claiming OBJ on waivers.

Seattle has 13.5 million in cap space…

 

[Patsgofor4]

Seattle has 13.5 million in cap space…

Hence their ability to claim him on waivers….

When did I claim that they didn’t have the cap space. It is foolish for them, in my opinion, to waste $7.25 on a half season rental when they already have two elite guys at WR and are unlikely to contend for a deep playoff run in a stacked NFC this year, even with Wilson returning this week. That unused cap space could be pushed into 2022, minus any end-of-season performance bonuses.

 

[Family]

Hence their ability to claim him on waivers….

When did I claim that they didn’t have the cap space. It is foolish for them, in my opinion, to waste $7.25 on a half season rental when they already have two elite guys at WR and are unlikely to contend for a deep playoff run in a stacked NFC this year, even with Wilson returning this week. That unused cap space could be pushed into 2022, minus any end-of-season performance bonuses.

But according to reports during this offseason, the clock is ticking on Wilson's time in Seattle.