Dale Arnold: NFL looking into crowd noise issue

[RayClay]

You're all missing the point. If the league is investigating and the media's reporting, it doesn't matter if it's real anymore.

The same phenomenon that's been biting us in the ass is taking over. The public doesn't have the attention span to wait for confirmation. If it's being investigated and is in the media, it happened! Especially with past reports to throw in a story!

Ha ha ha ha ha. Throw in the corrupt officiating and it's a gift wrapped media bomb package. :woohoo:

 

[PatsRule]

This may have already been posted but listen to the whole thing its amazing

http://www.zshare.net/audio/4689789fb55d66/

 

[Dr Pain]

You're all missing the point. If the league is investigating and the media's reporting, it doesn't matter if it's real anymore.

If it's being investigated and is in the media, it happened! Especially with past reports to throw in a story!
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http://kdka.com/topstories/Ed.Bouchette.Colts.2.380404.html

Steelers Insider Ed Bouchette alleges Steelers sources say the Colts amplified the crowd noise during Steelers offensive snaps on Monday night.

Amplifying the crowd noise would be a violation of NFL rules.

It also would explain why the Steelers had an inordinate number of false starts on Monday night. The players simply couldn't hear the count.

"The Colts were pumping in noise," Bouchette said. "I can tell you that they had extra microphones spread around the stadium and they took that noise from the fans and put it back through the PA."

 

[PlattsFan]

How many audio sources is CBS piping in at a time?

You've got the announcers, you've got the field mikes. That's it. It's obviously not the announcer mikes, that's for certain. So I guess there could have been a problem with the field mike, but the thing is, you could clearly hear cheering other than the sounds of the skipping. Heck, you could hear the ref's whistle. So, that proves that the field mic wasn't skipping either.

So, assuming CBS only has two audio signals going during the play, that would absolutely prove this was not a CBS problem.

No, that's way too simplistic a look at the audio situation. There are dozens and dozens of different audio sources, some of them mixed separately and fed through various processors. There's not a single "field mic" feed. There are fixed mics, the dudes with the parabolic mics on the sideline, mics hanging above the crowd ... all sorts of stuff going on.

That said, listening to it again, I have to say that the post-glitch audio sounds a lot more realistic than the pre-glitch audio. While I still say that technically it could be CBS, the sound of the crowd before the glitch does just sound weird.

 

[onegameatatime]

And the funny thing is that I commend that a-hole Polian for turning the heat up and piping in noise. I don't mind and it's part of the NFL game inside of the game. However, now that the Patriot's have been slammed/fined/gouged/etc. I would expect the same to happen to the Colts for a similar level of "cheating."

There's a big difference between turning up the heat and piping in noise.

Turning up the heat creates a condition for both teams equally, even if one team will tend to benefit more. Compare this to baseball teams that cut grass a certain way or wet down the dirt more or less. I consider this to be legitimate and acceptable gamesmanship.

Adjusting noise depending on who is on offense creates an unfair advantage. For another baseball comparison, the Twins used to be accused of turning on the AC when the other team was batting to knock down balls. This is more like cheating.

 

[godef]

Here's a thought...This game is going to be replayed Wednesday night on NFL network. They can't edit out that sound, so isn't this going to be an embaressment for the league? SERIOUSLY!

where do i go to see this?

Umm... the NFL Network?

 

[Solaris]

There's a big difference between turning up the heat and piping in noise.

Turning up the heat creates a condition for both teams equally, even if one team will tend to benefit more. Compare this to baseball teams that cut grass a certain way or wet down the dirt more or less. I consider this to be legitimate and acceptable gamesmanship.

Adjusting noise depending on who is on offense creates an unfair advantage. For another baseball comparison, the Twins used to be accused of turning on the AC when the other team was batting to knock down balls. This is more like cheating.

Except when the Patriot's team were suffering from the flu.

 

[workhorse]

That's a valid point. However, it could be that those in the crowd were so overwhelmed by the real noise of those around them that they were unable to hear it.

I think that is a viable explanation.

That could explain the Colts fans, but what about the Patriot fans and the players and the media types.

Whether it was heard on other recordings is not necessarily indicative of whether or not they were piping in audio, as a poster (Frezo) points out in another thread. As others have pointed out, it seems the radio stations and CBS do not share the same crowd noise feed.

If it came through the stadium sound system any crowd mic wound have picked it up.

I'm only sorta an audio expert; I've done audio on quite a few live TV events, some ESPN events, but not a football game (which are some of the largest productions).

To me, you can't tell from that sound where in the process the problem got introduced. It's *not* obviously from a CD, in fact I don't think it sounds like a CD at all. It's definitely digital, but I've heard a similar sound from digital processers that get hung up. You need to reset it. It could be from someone in the RCA Dome, or it could be from the audio booth of CBS. And, if it was from CBS, a good portion of the crowd noise would go through that processer, so it would get quieter right after that as the processor got reset.

I'm not saying it's CBS or not, but you can't tell from what you hear on that clip. Personally, I'd bet on it being from CBS. It's the more likely situation.

I do seriously hope it's from the Colts, though. That would make an already fantastic season into the greatest stretch of entertainment in sports history.

Thank you.

 

[scout]

If in fact, the Colts used illegal technology in the game Sunday, I think there championship season will be tarnished. Just like Barry Bonds, whose accomplishments were tainted. Its disappointing that it wasn't a good situation for the league or any of the players in the NFL. Hmmmmmmmm, sound familiar, no?

 

[NEPatriot]

There was an Audio expert on D&H just now saying that the only explanation was piped in sound. Dale said he didn't think anything would come of this. How can that be. This is clearly cheating, and if we get slapped with fines and draft picks taken away for wrong camera placement then Goddell HAS to respond in kind or he risks taking the NFL and turning it into a laughingstock!

It hasn't even been proven. Sounds like it's CBS, but if it isn't there will be a leauge response. As others have stated, lets enjoy the win.

 

[shmessy]

If in fact, the Colts used illegal technology in the game Sunday, I think there championship season will be tarnished. Just like Barry Bonds, whose accomplishments were tainted. Its disappointing that it wasn't a good situation for the league or any of the players in the NFL. Hmmmmmmmm, sound familiar, no?

It's a sad day for the NFL.........

 

[pheenix11]

Podgate!!

http://coloyan.com/society/s110407.html

 

[Airkuhl]

Dolts* = Cheaters !!!!!!!

3 >>> 1*

It's a sad day for the NFL

This seriously calls into question their Superbowl win. Forever, it will have an * next to that shameful year of cheating by the Colts.



Sorry, had to get that out of my system. I feel better now.

 

[Horace's Ivories]

This will be swept under the rug.

Remember there were hundreds of NFL officials at the AFCCG last year in January feeling the 85 degree heat in the RCA Dome.

No comparison, both teams have to deal with the 85 degrees..

 

[Sariana]

No comparison, both teams have to deal with the 85 degrees..

But how many members of the Colts had the flu?

 

[He Ban Me]

The microphones have already been destroyed

 

[aluminum seats]

Maybe this is technologically ignorant, but how could a skipping crowd sound be a CBS mistake? The announcers audio wasn't skipping. They're not on separate tracks, right?

 

[bigjunk1]

Wouldn't the announcers have said something about it?

In the YouTube clip Nance just keeps talking right through the audio disturbance, like he didn't hear anything.

Hope I'm wrong, but I think this will turn out to be a CBS screw-up.

 

[maverick4]

Take away a 1st round pick!

 

[PlattsFan]

Maybe this is technologically ignorant, but how could a skipping crowd sound be a CBS mistake? The announcers audio wasn't skipping. They're not on separate tracks, right?

Yes, they are. Not when it's getting broadcast, but at almost every point before that they are separate streams of information.