2021 NFL Free Agency/Trade News & Discussion: March Edition

[DaBruinz]

The 8th overall pick in exchange for Watson? The 4th or 5th best QB in the 2021 draft should fill the whole losing Watson created? I must be missing something here as 2 + 2 is not equally 4.

Maybe if you read what is said, you'd have less of an issue. No where in my post did I say that the offer was only the 8th overall pick for Watson. I said you were assuming they wouldn't be getting the 8th overall pick. Whenever I've heard that phrase, it usually means the pick is in ADDITION to what's been talked about. The deal that's been talked about (not necessarily the what the Panthers have offered) would send McCaffery, the 8th pick this year, and a 1st round in 2022 for Watson. So, it wouldn't JUST be the 4th or 5th best QB for Watson. Also, how can you typify it and say that the 8th overall would end up being the 4th or 5th best when you have no way of telling how they'll pan out at this point??

Also, it's a HUGE assumption on your part that Bridgewater was mentioned at all as part of Carolina's deal. Why would you think that Carolina would include him? Just because that's how it would work in Madden doesn't mean that's what works IRL. Houston could care less about Carolina's cap issues. And since they are dealing from a place of strength, they don't have to take another teams junk to get a deal done. If I'm Houston, there's no way I want Bridgewater included in the deal.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Maybe if you read what is said, you'd have less of an issue. No where in my post did I say that the offer was only the 8th overall pick for Watson. I said you were assuming they wouldn't be getting the 8th overall pick. Whenever I've heard that phrase, it usually means the pick is in ADDITION to what's been talked about. The deal that's been talked about (not necessarily the what the Panthers have offered) would send McCaffery, the 8th pick this year, and a 1st round in 2022 for Watson. So, it wouldn't JUST be the 4th or 5th best QB for Watson. Also, how can you typify it and say that the 8th overall would end up being the 4th or 5th best when you have no way of telling how they'll pan out at this point??

Also, it's a HUGE assumption on your part that Bridgewater was mentioned at all as part of Carolina's deal. Why would you think that Carolina would include him? Just because that's how it would work in Madden doesn't mean that's what works IRL. Houston could care less about Carolina's cap issues. And since they are dealing from a place of strength, they don't have to take another teams junk to get a deal done. If I'm Houston, there's no way I want Bridgewater included in the deal.

Why does "it usually means the pick is in ADDITION to"? Because that helps your 180 degree about face? Is there some national standard that defines that? The National Institute of Measurement and NFL Statistics? Dude, don't go all @Ring 6 on me, and just admit you mistyped. It will be so much easier on both of us.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

So will most the anticipated notable cuts occur before free agency? Teams do need to be under the cap in order to sign free agents and draft picks right

 

[luuked]

So will most the anticipated notable cuts occur before free agency? Teams do need to be under the cap in order to sign free agents and draft picks right

Yep.

 

[ashley]

When does free agency start?

March 17th: At 4:00 PM ET, free agency officially begins, and teams may begin signing players or trading players who are still under contract. Additionally, all teams must be under the salary cap at this time.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

March 17th: At 4:00 PM ET, free agency officially begins, and teams may begin signing players or trading players who are still under contract. Additionally, all teams must be under the salary cap at this time.

Nice, looking forward to what becomes available over the next month

 

[ashley]

Nice, looking forward to what becomes available over the next month

Me too Patsy, going to be a very important and interesting next month or two!!!

 

[Bourne Again Christian]

Call Adam Butlerh gone
He already talking like a man who’s not with the team.
I gotta do what’s best for me and that’s what I’m going to do if it’s New England Great the relationships I have with Coach Belichick and Mr Kraft.
But I’m definitely going to do what’s best for me.
I’m not copying the quote verbatim but that’s gone gone.

 

[Zarozzor]

 

[Deus Irae]

Too much

 

[Bourne Again Christian]

see

Too much

yeah no way.
I’d do that for Watson but not Wilson

 

[RobertWeathers]

Call Adam Butlerh gone
He already talking like a man who’s not with the team.
I gotta do what’s best for me and that’s what I’m going to do if it’s New England Great the relationships I have with Coach Belichick and Mr Kraft.
But I’m definitely going to do what’s best for me.
I’m not copying the quote verbatim but that’s gone gone.

Butler was a steal as a UFA.

Hope he makes his money. Hes earned it.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Seems high but if the NEP get him the team will be picking late in the 1st rd for the next 3 years.

So if that means trading Wilson for borderline 1st rounders ok.

It's the cap space that is my concern.

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

Wilson’s cap number the next 3 years is really terrible. As he gets older he no longer will have the luxury of throwing out of the pocket.

 

[patsfanincleveland]

Carson Wentz "started" at 2 #1's. That seems to have quickly changed.

Things will reach another level once teams get a better handle on expected CAP following 2021.

 

[DW Toys]

see

yeah no way.
I’d do that for Watson but not Wilson

Cousin, OK, we see that is a high bar, but what have we gotten out of first rounders the last three years? We have netted Wynn, who is on the NFL All Star list for IR appearances, Sony Michel , who has been worth about a 4th Rounder and fantastically mediocre, Harry (nuff said)....he might not have played very well but he wasn't that good either, and no first in 2020.

Respect your comments but I was shocked myself when I looked at our"haul".

Philosophically would you trade Harry, Wynn and Sony Michel for Russell Wilson? There's your three years in typical Pats first round picks.

Which of you would do this trade? Raise your hand.

First Round picks?.....Crap shoot I say.
DW Toys

 

[Bourne Again Christian]

Cousin, OK, we see that is a high bar, but what have we gotten out of first rounders the last three years? We have netted Wynn, who is on the NFL All Star list for IR appearances, Sony Michel , who has been worth about a 4th Rounder and fantastically mediocre, Harry (nuff said)....he might not have played very well but he wasn't that good either, and no first in 2020.

Respect your comments but I was shocked myself when I looked at our"haul".

Philosophically would you trade Harry, Wynn and Sony Michel for Russell Wilson? There's your three years in typical Pats first round picks.

Which of you would do this trade? Raise your hand.

First Round picks?.....Crap shoot I say.
DW Toys

I understand but the hope is they don’t numb the next 3 first rounders.
I hear ya if we could do that in a heart beat.
Crap I’d give all 3 of those players for a any of the top 5 qb prospects in this draft.

 

[Deus Irae]

Cousin, OK, we see that is a high bar, but what have we gotten out of first rounders the last three years? We have netted Wynn, who is on the NFL All Star list for IR appearances, Sony Michel , who has been worth about a 4th Rounder and fantastically mediocre, Harry (nuff said)....he might not have played very well but he wasn't that good either, and no first in 2020.

Respect your comments but I was shocked myself when I looked at our"haul".

Philosophically would you trade Harry, Wynn and Sony Michel for Russell Wilson? There's your three years in typical Pats first round picks.

Which of you would do this trade? Raise your hand.

First Round picks?.....Crap shoot I say.
DW Toys

Why are we talking about Harry, Wynn and Michel? It could be Seymour, Wilfork and Mankins.

 

[patsfanfromoversea]

It sounds like Iupati is retiring if it wasn't already covered

 

[DW Toys]

Why are we talking about Harry, Wynn and Michel? It could be Seymour, Wilfork and Mankins.

Cousin, You are not wrong but lets do the sampling now not fifteen years ago. Things change.
For those in charge of the Pats Draft like Monte and Nick C who are gone, those were the most recent purveyors of talent.....or not in this case. . Even a sampling ten years ago brought us No Choice in 2009, D Mac in 2010 and Nate Solder in 2011. Still trade Nate and Devin for Wilson.....yep.
DW Toys