[Old 2020 thread] NFL Free Agency/Trade Rumors:

[luuked]

Understand this but if there is a even a 40 percent chance he can be a starter and someone you can win with why even risk it.
I saw on some Raiders blog They have proposed trades with the Patriots as 3 options.
Our 4th for Mariota
Our 5th and d McCourty for Mariota
Our 5th and Adrian Phillips for Mariota
In my opinion we need to hold on to as many good safeties as possible.
So I would go the 4th or a second with a fourth coming back to us.

My point is not that we should wait for a release but that the Raiders most likely will have to move him on way or the other.

 

[50-yard-line]

The flood is beginning...

BB's Free Agency is going to be like a draft for him.

POPCORN! I need POPCORN!

 

[KDPPatsfan85]

BB better get a good QB asap if he wants to sign Hunter Henry....

 

[oceansizer]

Desean Jackson released by Philadelphia

Mostly outside the field. A few years ago he was an intriguing option.

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

BB better get a good QB asap if he wants to sign Hunter Henry....

Henry had a good young qb in san diego. Has never gotten 700 yards in a season. How’s his blocking skills?

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

Mostly outside the field. A few years ago he was an intriguing option.

The guy’s always hurt but he can still make a play or two. At this point he should be chasing a ring.

 

[Love The Drake]

Henry had a good young qb in san diego. Has never gotten 700 yards in a season. How’s his blocking skills?

No thanks give me Njoku or Smith

 

[Kontradiction]

Come on Bill overpay a little if need be.
Don’t let another team beat us to this punch.

Yeah. God forbid.

 

[Sicilian]

BB better get a good QB asap if he wants to sign Hunter Henry....

Unlesss they pull a shocker for Watson or Wilson, I'm not sure it'll matter. Chances are Henry will have offers from teams with better QB's than whoever the Pats will be able to trade for before free agency. Not to say who they get won't be good, just that Henry is probably the top TE FA, and will get an offer from someone better most likely. He'd probably consider JG as good enough, but I'm not sure we get him prior to FA (if at all), so it wouldn't matter. I expect us to sign a vet TE, but I'm guessing it's not gonna be Henry either way.

 

[50-yard-line]

Unlesss they pull a shocker for Watson or Wilson, I'm not sure it'll matter. Chances are Henry will have offers from teams with better QB's than whoever the Pats will be able to trade for before free agency. Not to say who they get won't be good, just that Henry is probably the top TE FA, and will get an offer from someone better most likely. He'd probably consider JG as good enough, but I'm not sure we get him prior to FA (if at all), so it wouldn't matter. I expect us to sign a vet TE, but I'm guessing it's not gonna be Henry either way.

News flash: not a lot of teams with "good" QBs have enough money to afford him.

 

[hornetfb85]

BB better get a good QB asap if he wants to sign Hunter Henry....

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

Unlesss they pull a shocker for Watson or Wilson, I'm not sure it'll matter. Chances are Henry will have offers from teams with better QB's than whoever the Pats will be able to trade for before free agency. Not to say who they get won't be good, just that Henry is probably the top TE FA, and will get an offer from someone better most likely. He'd probably consider JG as good enough, but I'm not sure we get him prior to FA (if at all), so it wouldn't matter. I expect us to sign a vet TE, but I'm guessing it's not gonna be Henry either way.

What’s henry looking at money wise? I feel he’s vastly overrated. Is he even an average blocker?

 

[Deus Irae]

What’s henry looking at money wise? I feel he’s vastly overrated. Is he even an average blocker?

How many receiving TEs are asked to block at even an average level, nowadays?

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

How many receiving TEs are asked to block at even an average level, nowadays?

Well that’s the point. Is he worth over 10 million dollars if he’s only going to do one thing and do it under 700 yards. Didn’t have a 100 yard game receiving this past season.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

I kinda want to give the Titans a little payback since they’ve liked to poach some of our recent free agents. Corey Davis and Jonnu could help this offense.

 

[Sicilian]

News flash: not a lot of teams with "good" QBs have enough money to afford him.

He doesn't need a lot of them. He only needs one. If one team has a better QB than Mariota (as an example) and the money, that's all it will take.

What’s henry looking at money wise? I feel he’s vastly overrated. Is he even an average blocker?

As a general rule, I feel like most free agents are overrated, and will be paid more than they're worth (as long as two teams are in the bidding). But I think we need to reduce our expectations on TE's as a fanbase. Much like with Brady, we were spoiled for years with Gronk. Most tight ends are either large slot receivers or small offensive linemen. Very few are both receiving threats that you have to gameplan against AND great blockers. And even the very good receiving tight ends that aren't Gronk, Kittle, or Kelce, net you 700 or so yards at most. Unless we really have a horseshoe stuck up our a**, we're not seeing another Gronk on this team. We need to be okay with just a GOOD tight end, because given what we've had the last two years at the position, just GOOD could radically improve our offense.

 

[Deus Irae]

Well that’s the point. Is he worth over 10 million dollars if he’s only going to do one thing and do it under 700 yards. Didn’t have a 100 yard game receiving this past season.

I'm not a Henry guy, but I'm trying to be fair. He's the #1 or #2 TE target currently on the market, and he's likely to get paid accordingly. On the other hand, I have a hard time picturing BB shelling out the big cash for him.

 

[upstater1]

I DON'T want to trigger yet another BB v. Brady thread.

I want to know if we used all the money created under the cap by our opt-outs (i.e. did we extend people, etc., use up all the cap space)? I suppose the league year isn't over yet and we still have time to do that.

If we do, I can easily see the strategic value in taking a big hit last year, if we use up all that space.

Logically, you can make a case for letting Brady go--if you use up all that space.

I still wouldn't have done it, but... the logic is there.

overthecap.com has moved on from last year and is now only looking at this coming year, so I can't tell what happened to our cap situation for 2020.

Love to hear if we used up all the space.

 

[venecol]

I have a hard time picturing BB shelling out the big cash for any offensive player.

He'll probably go after good defensive players (LB, DT, etc.) since there's both a need and they don't require a good QB, plus he is the GOAT defensive coach.

 

[upstater1]

Despite your appeal to “Miguel said” the patriots were at the cap paying newton $1,000,000. If they paid Brady 20,000,000 as an immutable law of math they would have had to eliminate 19,000,000 elsewhere.

This has been thoroughly discussed on this board. Your numbers are wrong.

I can't even believe you're pursuing this when you very well know Thuney's contract was guaranteed when he signed it so there was no way we were cutting him whether we signed Brady or not.

If we needed to, we would have cut a host of people who would have cleared $16m off the cap. Cannon alone would have given us a huge chunk. Adrian Phillips would have gotten us to $16m with Cannon. But then add Beau Allen, Brandon Bolden, Matt Lacosse, Brandon King, Dan Vitale, Akeem Spence, etc., and we're in the upper 20ms with space. Now we haven't even discussed Brady's dead money hit from last year. So you're not even counting Brady's cap hit correctly. It would have been $20m - Brady's dead money. Significantly less than $20m. The $20m would be divided evenly with the 1 year extension into 2021.

But beyond that, we wouldn't taken on a bunch of new contracts from players that never helped us.

Once again, BB offered Brady AFTER Thuney was franchised.

This is an incontrovertible fact.

Patriots also finished with $20,331,213 in cap space.