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QBR is a stupid stat. It means nothing as they don't even tell you how they compile it. It is vague and a poor attempt at emulating PFF without putting in the work or having the data available for public viewing. All is does is attempt to give an air of legitimancy to whatever narrative they want to push. ESPN is tabloid sports reporting with no depth.
Doesn’t matter either way; TB has to play complementary football.
 
KC is going to probably have to live with sustained drives if their OL can’t hold up. Hill is still dangerous in space, but they become lethal with deep-breaking routes that have him taking the top off the defense. If Tampa can generate pressure with their front 3-4 and force Mahomes into his check down, they might be able to come out of Cover-2/Cover-3 and sit in Cover-1 Robber and Rat. Shade the single high safety toward Hill’s side of the field and choke off everything underneath. I wouldn’t try it from the get-go, though. Test the OL first and see how they hold up.
 
The Lavonte David injury concerns me. Hamstring injuries suck; they're unpredictable and rarely heal quickly. I'm not that concerned he won't play but am concerned about it hampering him or that he'll aggravate it. Having David and White at full strength is an absolute must.
 
The Lavonte David injury concerns me. Hamstring injuries suck; they're unpredictable and rarely heal quickly. I'm not that concerned he won't play but am concerned about it hampering him or that he'll aggravate it. Having David and White at full strength is an absolute must.
this is the one that has me concerned
 
Shaq Barrett and JPP generating pressure is the only way to allow 2 or 3 to stay on Hill at all times.

That's basically the entire game right there. Barrett/JPP versus Chiefs tackles.
 


Hope Gilmore or Cam won't invite any of them out for dinner. Lol
 


Hope Gilmore or Cam won't invite any of them out for dinner. Lol

THIS ^^^ is what worried me most about this season. May our luck, the result of preparation, hold.
Didn't care about the SB being played or not without the Pats, but starting with the Bucs 2nd half season run, I do care.
 
My way too long super bowl break down. Part 1

This is the toughest breakdown I've done maybe ever. Mostly cause KC has been such an odd team going back and forth between brilliance and seeming to just coast. The Bucs on the other hand have mostly righted the ship compared to where they were before the bye. They are going to be reasonably healthy and beat the best the NFC has to offer, and still has yet to fully put it together. Both teams have incredibly high ceilings.

About the Bucs

Offense - I would imagine you've watched this team this season, so i'll skip a lot of details. The Bucs have Receivers and Tight Ends to spare. Their Running Backs are fine, but neither of the main ones is a natural pass catcher. Their OL has been generally very solid. The injury to their Guard hasn't come back to bite them much in these playoffs so I don't think it will be that bad for this upcoming game. Though a guy like Jones will be a huge challenge for this interior. Brady is 90% of prime Brady. Can't do it like he use to for 60 minutes and will make more bad throw/mistakes, but still among the top 2 QBs even at 43. Clutch and knows how to close.

Defense - Their pass rush with Vea and Suh in the middle is among the best. And their ability to stop the run is fantastic, though if a fast enough player can round the edge, there will be a chance for them to gain yards. Their Line Backers are great around the line and attacking, though you don't want them to play back in wide open space too much. Their DBs have been very solid as well. While the line is the strength, there is no weak spot on this D.

About the Chiefs

Defense - Their DL is underrated to a degree. They invite you to run, as they know the run won't beat them. They pass rush with both skill and abandon. The goal of this unit is simple. Force the QB to make a few mistakes and take a few sacks a game. This is pretty much their job and they do it pretty well. Everything else is a distant second. It's a style that compliments their offense very well. You pretty much have to group their Line Backers and Defensive Backs together. They know the opponent will be passing and usually all drop into coverage. The Line Backers aren't as good at it as the Defensive Backs. As for the DBs, the do well, but it's more scheme than skill IMO. More on that later.

Offense – Their OL will be the story of the game. It has injuries and they are trying to juggle players around to make it work. Their run blocking is a little worse than their pass blocking, but it usually gives Mahomes and their weapons enough time. When it comes to the weapons of KC they're very deep, but the guys who kill the opponents the most are Hill, Kelce and too a lesser extent Hardman. Not that you totally want to discount Watkins, but he is a bit of an after thought. Mahomes is sensational. He makes crazy passes with no platform and can create big plays with his legs. He seems completely unaffected by pressure, which is both a potential positive and negative. He also seems to rarely give up on plays. Again a positive and a negative.

How the KC O works.

The Chiefs offense is built around 3 main components. The first is the play designs, which are fantastic. Reid takes the idea of a structured play and turns it on it's head. He is the greatest offensive mind in the past 20 years because he did something almost no other coach has done in that time. He took a step back from traditional play design and got back to the simplest concepts. Often his design plays use simple misdirection with the idea of getting the ball quickly to one of his best play makers. The best example of this is a play where Kelce stays into block at the goal line, then breaks off and sneaks behind the line. Mahomes runs left and flips it to his right where Kelce is waiting. It is something you will see more on the school yard than an NFL team, and that is why it works. Players are accustom to playing within certain structures and Reid breaks it down to a very basic idea. 'I'll make you go left, then put the ball in the hands of one of the best players in the game whose going right while your momentum is still carrying you the wrong way.' And it easily works. They also do a lot of option plays in space which bait the defender to make the wrong choice in space. And they often get what they want.

The 2nd main component is the talent and speed. They know what they have in Kelce, Hill, and Mahomes and they know you can't double everyone. They force you to play their game due to their talent. Even when they stick to more conventional plays, they know where they can win a 1v1 and it simplifies things for them massively. Mahomes hits his guys accurately and once a player has the ball in their hands they have a great chance to make something happen with it. Often players assume a guy is going down or out of bounds only for him to stay up or in, and make 20 more yards down the sideline.

The 3rd main component is the most famous. The Broken play. A lot of this has to do with Mahomes, but it also comes back to the 2nd component. When a play isn't there he can buy time or run. This isn't dangerous so much because of the time it buys, but more to do with when the defender has their eye on Mahomes they lose track of their assignment, who comes open.

How to contain it.

This is pretty simple to explain, but hard to do. The first thing you need to do is double Hill. He should never ever, ever not have a safety over the top. While Kelce is a big part of their O, Hill is where it all starts. When you play up, get your hands on him and when you are back don't give him too much space. Hill with the ball 2 yards past the line of scrimmage can be deadly if given open space. The objective here isn't to limit Hill's yardage so much as limit his touches. Keep the ball out of his hands all together. Play 2 safeties, or if you play 1, have the single safety only have the responsibility of Hill, if you get beat somewhere else so be it. And when he gets the ball, get your hands on him an tackle. Don't try to hit him and knock him over. Don't assume he is going out of bounds. Finish the play even at the risk of a penalty.

The next thing to do is to STAY HOME. When the play breaks down don't drift or lose track of your guy. Play him TIGHTER. Trust your DL to make the play. If they don't, wait until Mahomes passes the line. But stay on your assignment. Particularly Kelce. This is where teams get in trouble a lot. Mahomes Breaks contain and they get happy feet trying to get to him before he makes a pass. This is the wrong move. Mahomes is at his best when you rush more than 4. That just means one of his main guys will be 1 on 1 and win. Don't come forward, stay back. If he runs for a first down live for another play, don't give up a 30 yard pass to the sideline. This is also where you can catch him in mistakes at times. Once Mahomes starts running in one direction he tends to thread it down the sideline. Don't let him. Stay there and take it away. If he throws off platform across his body to the other side of the field don't worry about it. Hopefully the defender STAYED HOME and will be in position to knock it down or make the interception. Let him do his job. Focus on yours and stay back until you KNOW he crosses the LOS.

To limit KC's offense you need both talent, discipline, help deep and to be able to get Mahomes off his spot with 4. The Bucs learned their lesson last game and will play 2 deep most of this one I think. They have the talent and will be able to get Mahomes off his spot with 4. The question is can they be disciplined?

As a final note on the KC offense. Pressure means nothing to Mahomes. As I said, this is a good and bad thing. He will occasionally give up on a play if it isn't there, but he hates to do it. You need to get home on him. Mahomes unwillingness to give up means he can make a lot of crazy plays, but it also means he is liable to makes mistakes if you get home. He'll give you big sacks, fumbles and if you hit him while throwing or force him to move in a way he wasn't prepared to while releasing you can effect his throws. He led the league in 16 drops interceptions this year, which was a record. There are plays to be made, but you have to get home to do it. Also just as key, don't over pursue. So many times I see guys in a rush to sack Mahomes and he dodges. only to extend a play 3 more seconds after. Make sure you don't miss, even if it slows you down a little.

In the end, don't be afraid to play tight man on everyone but Hill. Have help shadow Kelce but he isn't likely to break one. But he is the safety blanket and so deserves special attention on 3rd down no matter what. Even if he's staying into block, keep on his hip, the blocking is usually a faint. Do you really think Reid is calling a play where Kelce's only job is to block, EVER? I thought not.

How to attack KC's D.

KC plays D in a very specific way that is designed to compliment their offense. They generally rush 4 and play 7 back, with the occasional blitzer whose often a DB. It is designed to not give up the deep ball and to get pressure. They don't care if you run much and aren't built to stop it. They have good pass rushers but as I said, their greatest strength is they play fearlessly. Hopefully they trip you up, force you into mistakes and win the game. The're fantastic as a front running defense, which is what they've been all year pretty much.

This way you don't know if a blitz is coming until post snap. After they drop they drop way back and basically smother your verticals while playing tight man below. That is their most common look and they do it a good 75% of the time. Their pass defenders while talented win by forcing you to beat 2 defenders deep, a defender and the sideline or beat fairly tight man. This is why KC ranks #1 in completion % pass 10 yards, TD/Int ratio pass 10 yards, and other stats like that,

How to beat it

There is a pretty obvious weakness that I hope the Bucs can exploit even though it isn't something they do often. When KC plays this style they leave the middle of the field open. How the offense beats this coverage is to run deep routes and have a few other players getting a depth of 5-8 yards and break horizontally. KC's coverage guys are okay but not special in 1v1. And in that open space in the middle of the field is where an offensive player can feast. If KC comes down to try to take this away, then that means you have a 1v1 deep. Simply put, if KC takes away the vertical, go horizontal until they have to play that too. This is why a guy like Brown will be so important in this game. They need a slot guy to catch that underneath stuff and break it while Godwin and Evans keep them honest over the top. I also think Brate will be in for another huge game. When KC does the opposite (which they will on occasion if you force them to) they can absolutely be had over the top.

Running on KC is nice, but it should only be used when you really like your match up or want to win with power on short yardage. Play action pretty much means nothing to KC, they will get back until you make them pay with 10 yard catches underneath.
 
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Part 2


How the Bucs O works – We mostly know this so I'll keep it short.

They live and die by chunk plays. They like to be balanced with the run, but they don't have to be. The O Line has been good and will need to be again. Down and distance are fairly meaningless to them. Why pick up 5 on 3rd and 4 when you can go for 20? This is both their weakness and their strength as an offense. Their ability to run has been hit or miss all season. No where in these playoffs have they gotten over the all important 5 YPC threshold. KC has given up just about 5 YPC, but not by much. A lot was given up to Allen, but their run game besides him was shut down. It's unlikely TB will have the horses this match up to put them over that mark and make their run game really hurt. They don't do much play action or motions, but when they do they are often used to great effect. Hopefully they do more. The offense is built around Evans/Godwin and the mismatches they give. Particularly Evans who you don't want to cover 1v1. Add in Brate, Gronk, Brown, Miller and co, and you have a chance for a guy to be open on every play. The passing game has the diversity and personel to attack a D anyway they want, the question is will mix it up more or stick to their bread and butter of deep chunks down the field?

How the Bucs D works – Ditto

It starts with the DL which is among the best. They stop the run cold generally. While GB and NO were able to get just a hair over 4 YPC it didn't feel like it much of the game. Basically besides giving up a few 10+ yard run to the outside those games, they made the offense pay whenever they ran. Their pass rush with Vea back is looking the best it has all season. Suh is the forgotten man on the interior, but he is also doing his job at a high level. Their Line Backers are great at everything but coverage, not that they are bad at it. They like to shoot gaps and play aggressive, and can anticipate. Often they don't miss in open space. The defensive backs have been solid during this run. Man or Zone they have been very good overall. The question is can they deal with the speed of guys like Hill or Hardman?

How to beat them?

KC has everything need do to accomplish this, but it won't be easy. They need a QB who can extend plays and evade the rush. They also need receivers who can win with speed and size. They have both. Force the Bucs to cover Hill with 2 and leave a large gap underneath they'll need to make a tough 1v1 tackle in. After that, see if you can force them to single up on Hill for a deep shot. Kelce in space in the middle with one of their line backers is a match they need to try to get early and often. Hardman is the wild card. Long developing runs to the side are good. Ignore the teeth of the D. Pass to HEC in the flat and see what he can do. Get the ball in the hands of your fastest players and give your OL enough help to make it possible.

On Defense they need to just keep doing what they've done all season, play back and force the Bucs to be patient. If they prove they can be then mix it up a little, but don't give up those deep 1v1 plays down the field, no matter the down or distance. Leave the Running Backs open and dare them to hit those and see if you can get some drops to put them in bad down and distances. Go after Brady like there is no tomorrow. Hide your coverages until the last second and don't be afraid of testing the Tampa backs in protection with a corner or safety blitz.

Match up thoughts. What match ups will be the most important?

First, do you believe the offensive line for Mahomes matters as long as he has Kelce, Hill and co? It's a simple question, but one being ignored or down played by the mainstream sports media. This offensive line will win their fair amount of snaps, but I don't see them holding up well over the course of the game. Fisher is the straw that breaks the camels back, and they were beat by less talented DLs with him in. So either this over matched group has the combined game of their careers, the Bucs come out flat, or this is a massive advantage for the Bucs. I see the 3rd option as the most likely by a mile. And as good as Mahomes is under pressure and on the run, it will come into play. Unless you believe it just won't matter. In which case KC should stop paying offensive lineman all together

I can't help but think of that 3 game span of Miami, NO and ATL when he was under a lot of pressure. He played some of his worse football of the season, as you would expect. He still managed to hit over 30 points twice, but at the cost of sacks, turnovers, missed throws and other errors that went unpunished. And in both games they went over 30 they had help. One with a Hardman TD return and safety, the other with nearly 100 yards in penalties and a defensive performance that involved holding NO to 9 drives of 5 plays or less along with a turnover to keep field position from shifting on them and to give them more chances to score. Frankly the offense in both games wasn't pretty and should have been held to less. But that Saints showed that even with Mahomes seriously under pressure they can get 30 on you. They are that good.

If the Bucs can put the same amount of pressure on the Chiefs they'll certainly struggle, though 30 points may be possible even in that case. But I think the Bucs will make them work for it, and probably be able to force a turnover or two. As well as make it a higher possession game.

Secondly, just as important. Did the Bucs learn their lesson defensively? They started playing a lot of Tampa high 2 after that awful first quarter and it started to limit KC, but they were also coasting a little at the time. Will they try do single high again or man Hill? Personally, this is an easy one to answer, and the answer with 99% certainty is yes they learned their lesson. It won't stop KC, but it will make them work for it.

The Third and most up in the air question is one no one knows. Will the Bucs change their offensive style to take what KC gives them? I don't expect them to not pass the ball deep, but KC sits on those deep routes with multiple defenders just hoping for you to take a shot. Will the Bucs offense take the underneath when it's open? Can they depend on Fournette and Jones to make short catches and gain yards? When they do pass deep can their OL hold up against the all out pass rush of KC, particularly with Jones potentially matched up with a back up guard? Will they be able to pick up those sneaky blitz packages? This one no one knows. Brady has looked very mortal when facing pressure this season in particular. Personally I think given 2 weeks they will look much like after their first bye. With motions, play action and attacking all parts of the field. something they've gotten away from a bit in the last 2 playoff games.

Final thoughts.

I firmly believe as good as Reid is out of the bye that these 2 weeks favor the Bucs. KC will come out ready with 10-15 new plays that will no doubt mostly work. But they will be the same team they were all season, they only play with one style. The Bucs on the other hand can do some soul searching and scouting of themselves and their opponent. I think that has the potential to be more valuable than some well designed plays. If the Bucs are healthy, ready to go and have well thought out game plan they execute on they have a good chance. As good as KC is, the Bucs ceiling is slightly higher. The nightmare match up of the Bucs DL vs the Chiefs OL looms large. As does the familiarity of home field.

While I love going over X's and O's I never do it at the expense of the human factor and i'm always mindful of the intangibles. KC just played the best game of their season, and it wasn't even close. It all worked vs the Bills. I don't see them turning in a similar performance again. This is a team that hasn't been able to put it together for 60 minutes most of the year. They also have shown themselves to be human offensively when the pass rush gets home. On Defense they are underrated and overrated. They are underrated in how effectively they can smother a team as the front runner, but overrated when they need to play a tight game. They can't keep a good offense down all game. and can't change it up when they are not ahead. When a team isn't desperate to force something they aren't as good, particularly against a good offense.

Home field will matter. The Bucs play with a chip on their shoulder and since the bye have learned from their pass mistakes. They figured out how to better attack the Saints and they will do so again for KC. It won't look as dominant as the Saints game, but they'll figure some things out against a team that really doesn't change. Brady after that not so good 2nd half against GB is likely to be focused and play cleanly now. Mahomes has had 16 or so interceptions dropped and has not had a turnover in these playoffs. The law of averages says it has to come home to roost at some point. Against a much better pass rush than he's seen in over a month with a weakened Oline is a time for that to happen.

Prediction: TB 34 KC 31

This will be a classic. The TB DL vs the KC DL will be a problem all game. Mahomes will make some fantastic plays, but some sacks and turnovers will happen. The Bucs offense will jump on those and capitalize as they have this entire run. The Bucs will no doubt try to pound their head against the wall at times (running for 2 yards on first down and throwing down field when the underneath is open) but will change enough on offense so they can score effectively. For the most part Brady and the pass catchers have a clean game and attack the underneath enough to open up some good deep shots. I expect Evans to get some 1v1s the Bucs cash in on. They'll play with help on Hill all game they don't let Kelce run free after his fake blocking attempts... much. The end around runs of KC will hurt and the Bucs don't have a good answer to it. However you can only go to that well so many times and the rest of the KC run game will be limited.

Even if you play KC perfectly, which the Bucs won't, they will find their way onto the score board. It will be close in the 4th, until one forced throw off balance with pressure by Mahomes is finally paid for. With a BIG interception return, for a go ahead score on a short field that puts the Bucs ahead for good. They'll then desperately hold on to run down the clock as Mahomes makes magic happen to make it a 1 score game, probably an onside kick failing with under 4 minutes left as well. The Bucs will then run the clock out with a first down or two after. Probably even going for it on 4th down, scared to death to punt it back to Mahomes, as they should be.
 
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Well hope Arians has his guys very well protected. They lose any player on defense and it could be a problem.
 
Some interesting prop bets.

Super bowl MVP - Evans +3,000
Will any player propose to his GF on the Field -850
Brady rushing yards - over/under .5

I kind of like that .5 yard one TBH. And I don't recall any player proposing in recent history. Any more interesting bets?
 
Part 2


How the Bucs O works – We mostly know this so I'll keep it short.

They live and die by chunk plays. They like to be balanced with the run, but they don't have to be to be effective. The O Line has been good and will need to be again. Down and distance are fairly meaningless to them. Why pick up 5 on 3rd and 4 when you can go for 20? This is both their weakness and their strength as an offense. Their ability to run has been hit or miss all season. No where in these playoffs have they gotten over the all important 5 YPC threshold. KC has given up just about 5 YPC, but not by much. A lot was given up to Allen, but their run game besides him was shut down. It's unlikely TB will have the horses this match up to point them over that mark and make their run game hurt. They don't do much play action or motions, but when they do they are often used to great effect. Hopefully they do more. The offense is built around Evans/Godwin and the mismatches they give. Particularly Evans who you don't want to cover 1v1. Add in Brate, Gronk, Brown, Miller and co, and you have a chance for a guy to be open on every play. The passing game has the diversity and personel to attack a D anyway they want, the question is will they use it or stick to their bread and butter of deep chunks down the field?

How the Bucs D works – Ditto

It starts with the DL which is among the best. They stop the run cold generally. While GB and NO were able to get just a hair over 4 YPC it didn't feel like it much of the game. Basically besides giving up a few 10+ yard run to the outside those games, they made the offense pay whenever they ran. Their pass rush with Vea back is looking the best it has all season. Suh is the forgotten man on the interior, but he is also doing his job at a high level. Their Line Backers are great at everything but coverage, not that they are bad at it. They like to shoot gaps and play aggressive, and can anticipate. Often they don't miss in open space. The defensive backs have been solid during this run. Man or Zone they have been very good overall. The question is can they deal with the speed of guys like Hill or Hardman?

How to beat them?

KC has everything need do to accomplish this, though it won't be easy. They need a QB who can extend plays and evade the rush. They also need receivers who can win with speed and size. They have both. Try to force the Bucs to cover Hill with 2 and leave a large gap underneath they need to make a tough 1v1 tackle in. After that, see if you can force them to single up on Hill for a deep shot. Kelce in space in the middle with one of these line backers is a match they need to try to get early and often. Hardman is the wild card. Long developing runs to the side are good. Ignore the teeth of the D. Pass to HEC in the flat and see what he can do. Get the ball in the hands of your fastest players and give your OL enough help to make it possible.

On Defense they need to just keep doing what they've done all season, play back and force the Bucs to be patient. If they prove they can be then mix it up a little, but don't give up those deep 1v1 plays down the field no matter what, no matter the down or distance. Leave the Running Backs open and dare them to hit those and see if you can get some drops to put them in bad down and distances. Go after Brady like there is no tomorrow. Hide your coverages until the last second and don't be afraid of testing the Tampa backs with a corner or safety blitz.

Match up thoughts. What match ups will be the most important?

First, do you believe the offensive line for Mahomes matters as long as he has Kelce, Hill and co? This offensive line will win their fair amount of snaps, but I don't see them holding up well over the course of the game. Fisher is the straw that breaks the camels back, and they were beat by less talented DLs with him in. So either this over matched group has the combined game of their careers, the Bucs come out flat, or this is a massive advantage for the Bucs. I see the 3rd option as likely. And as good as Mahomes is under pressure and on the run, it will come into play.

I can't help but think of that 3 game span of Miami, NO and ATL when he was under a lot of pressure. He played some of his worse football of the season, as you would expect. He still managed to hit over 30 points twice, but at the cost of sacks, turnovers, missed throws and other errors that went unpunished. And in both games they went over 30 they had help. One with a Hardman TD return and safety, the other with nearly 100 yards in penalties and a defensive performance that involved 9 drives of 5 plays or less along with a turnover to keep field position from shifting on them. Frankly the offense in both games wasn't pretty and should have been held to less. But that Saints showed that even with Mahomes seriously under pressure they can get 30 on you.

If the Bucs can put the same amount of pressure on the Chiefs they'll certainly struggle, though 30 points may be possible even in that case, cause they are just that explosive. But I think at the least the Bucs will make them work for it, and probably be able to force a turnover or two. As well as make it a higher possession game.

Secondly, just as important. Did the Bucs learn their lesson defensively? They started playing a lot of Tampa high 2 after that awful first quarter and it started to limit KC, but they were also coasting a little at the time. Will they try do single high again or man Hill? Personally, this is an easy one to answer, and the answer with 99% certainty is yes they learned their lesson. It won't stop KC, but it will make them work for it. Easy.

The Third and most up in the air question is one no one knows. Will the Bucs change their offensive style to take what KC gives them? I don't expect them to not pass the ball deep, but KC sits on those deep routes with multiple defenders just hoping for you to take a shot. Will the Bucs offense take the underneath when it's open? Can they depend on Fournette and Jones to make short catches and gain yards? When they do pass deep can their OL hold up against the all out pass rush of KC, particularly with Jones potentially matched up with a back up guard? Will they be able to pick up those sneaky blitz packages? This one no one knows. Brady has looked very mortal when facing pressure this season in particular. Personally I hope given 2 weeks they will look much like after their first bye. With motions, play action and attacking underneath.

Final thoughts.

I firmly believe as good as Reid is out of the bye that these 2 weeks favor the Bucs. KC will come out ready with 10-15 new plays that will no doubt mostly worked. But they will be the same team they were all season, they only play with one style. The Bucs on the other hand can do some sole searching and scouting of themselves and their opponent. I think that has the potential to be more valuable than some well designed plays. If the Bucs are healthy, ready to go and have well thought out game plan they execute on they have a good chance. As good as KC is, the Bucs ceiling is slightly higher. The nightmare match up of the Bucs DL vs the Chiefs OL looms large. As does the familiarity of home field.

While I love going over X's and O's I never do it at the expense of the human factor and i'm always mindful of the intangibles. KC just played the best game of their season, and it wasn't even close. It all worked vs the Bills. I don't see them turning in a similar performance again. This is a team that hasn't been able to put it together for 60 minutes most of the year. They also have shown themselves to be human offensively when the pass rush gets home. On Defense they are underrated and overrated. They are underrated in how effectively they can smother a team as the front runner, but overrated when they need to play a tight game against a capable offense. They can't keep a good offense down all game. and can't change it up when they are not ahead. When a team isn't desperate to force something they aren't as effective, particularly against a good offense.

Home field will matter. The Bucs play with a chip on their shoulder and since the bye have learned from their pass mistakes. They figured out how to better attack the Saints and they will do so again for KC. It won't look as dominant as the Saints game, but they'll figure some things out against a team that really doesn't change. Brady after that not so good 2nd half against GB is likely to be focused and play cleanly now. Mahomes has had 16 or so interceptions dropped and has not had a turnover in these playoffs. The law of averages says it has to come home to roost at some point. Against a much better pass rush than he's seen in over a month with a weakened Oline is a time that makes sense.

Prediction: TB 34 KC 31

This will be a classic. The TB DL vs the KC DL will be a problem all game. Mahomes will make some fantastic plays, but some sacks and turnovers will happen. The Bucs offense will jump on those. The Bucs will no doubt try to pound their head against the wall at times (running for 2 yards on first down and throwing down field when the underneath is open) but will change enough on offense so they can score effectively. For the most part Brady and the pass catchers have a clean game and attack the underneath enough to open up some good deep shots. I expect Evans to get some 1v1s the Bucs cash in on. They'll play with help on Hill all game they don't let Kelce run free after his fake blocking attempts... much. The end around runs of KC will hurt, but the Bucs will eventually figure it out and the rest of the KC run game will be limited.

KC will force their way into the game constantly even when down. It will be close in the 4th, until one forced throw off balance with pressure by Mahomes is finally paid for. With a BIG interception return, for a go ahead score on a short field that puts the Bucs ahead for good. They'll then desperately hold on to run down the clock as Mahomes makes magic happen to make it a 1 score game, probably an onside kick failing with under 4 minutes left as well. The Bucs will then run the clock out with a first down or two after. Probably even going for it on 4th down, scared to death to punt it back to Mahomes, as they should be.
BA: thanks BD for all those fine points but you can't live your life in a closet afraid to take risks. We're going to play fvkin aggressive daddy. We're going to take fvkin risks daddy. We're going to get a few rounds of golf in before the game and have us some ****in fun. I'm a let the players coach us a win on this one daddy, let's go.
 
BA: thanks BD for all those fine points but you can't live your life in a closet afraid to take risks. We're going to play fvkin aggressive daddy. We're going to take fvkin risks daddy. We're going to get a few rounds of golf in before the game and have us some ****in fun. I'm a let the players coach us a win on this one daddy, let's go.

 
from what i’m seeing, the middle of the field should be mainly where they attack the chiefs. potential big games from AB, Brate, Gronk. is AB going to play? now i’m seeing he’s listed as doubtful?
 
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from what i’m seeing, the middle of the field should be mainly where they attack the chiefs. potential big games from AB, Brate, Gronk. is AB going to play? now i’m seeing he’s listed as doubtful?

AB is playing here not practicing untill next week and if they attack the middle with Gronk, AB, and Godwin they’ll put up 30+ easily. But I have zero faith in Arians/Leftwich to do that untill I see it, untill than I expect first down runs and deep shots on 3rd and 3
 
from what i’m seeing, the middle of the field should be mainly where they attack the chiefs. potential big games from AB, Brate, Gronk. is AB going to play? now i’m seeing he’s listed as doubtful?
I was just reading on a Bucs site that these designations are listed as though they were playing a game tomorrow and not next Sunday. That makes me feel a little better. I can’t imagine AB doesn’t at least play decoy, I’d rather have my defensive players anyway.
 
I haven't watched them often, but one of the things I noticed about KCs offense is that they don't run up the middle much. They usually run outside and the only thing they do up the middle is the shuttle pass.

Speaking of the shuttle pass, I have a memory from way back that says the shuttle pass used to be considered a lateral, even when thrown forward. I think a pass used to be determined by the fact that the passer's hand was above his shoulder.
 
from what i’m seeing, the middle of the field should be mainly where they attack the chiefs. potential big games from AB, Brate, Gronk. is AB going to play? now i’m seeing he’s listed as doubtful?
Miller might be useful there as well. No way an LB can cover him and should be able to get significant YAC.
 
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from what i’m seeing, the middle of the field should be mainly where they attack the chiefs. potential big games from AB, Brate, Gronk. is AB going to play? now i’m seeing he’s listed as doubtful?
Bucs TEs were 10 for 13 for 140 yards during their regular season meeting. Gronk was 6 for 7 for 106 (season high).
 
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