Bob Kravitz writes about Deflategate [Four Games in Fall Documentary]

[sb1]

I just watched the Deflategate documentary. It's really well done. I don't know how Kravitz or anyone with half a brain can see it and not realize what a railroad job Deflategate was...even with the presence of noted yahoo Jerry Thornton.

And then this happened anyway




Still pisses me off.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

And then this happened anyway




Still pisses me off.

Just think about Stidham, who will be the Patriots starting QB in September 2021, and I am sure you will feel OK again.

 

[NashuaPats]

Wells was hired to find what his client told him to find. That is how our system works. The NFL said they were paying for an independent investigation which is an oxymoron (kind of, since it is not two words but a word and a phrase). People believed it. After that it was all down hill. Wells twisted the truth, hired a firm to support his "hired" story, asked for evidence that he knew would ever be turned over, etc. Normally a judge knows all of these deceptive tactics and laughs them out of court, but since the "court of public opinion" does not understand, the whole episode kept spinning. Kraft stuck with the 31 and Brady was left hanging out to dry.

There is an industry of independent investigators who are generally used for arbitration. The guy who did the Pete Rose report works in this small industry and was livid about Wells’ report. He was very outspoken about it talking about how Wells broke so many of that industry’s standards.

 

[Captain Cliche]

A part of that is how effective Wells was in using McNally and Jastremski’s text messages. In the executive summary of the report, those texts are very convincing that they tampered with the balls.

Not many people including the media bothered reading the whole report. Deep into the report, you’ll find the conversations those texts were taken from. None of those conversations had anything to do with tampering with footballs,

Wells removed context, took single comments out of conversations from more than a thousand texts from two friends who handle footballs for a living, from various months over a year’s time, and placed them in the order he wanted them read while adding his own narrative.

It was very effective, but also completely misleading and illegal... if it was an actual legal proceeding.

A quote from the 56 Lies article:

"This well-placed item in the table of contents of the Wells Report immediately leads a casual reader to assume that McNally used this term immediately prior to the AFCCG. In reality, the text occurred in May, 2014."

This is a bombshell to me. I had no idea the texts occurred in May. That isn't even training camp. OTA's??

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

And then this happened anyway




Still pisses me off.

During the “investigation,” the Patriots had the actual PSI numbers in their possession. They could have easily leaked those numbers and wrecked the NFL’s narrative, preemptively calling out the BS before the Wells bomb hit.

Bob trusted the other owners and Goodell, though, and trusted the process even while it was incredibly obvious to everyone they were being railroaded.

Imagine if another owner’s Hall of Fame quarterback was being railroaded, and the owner had in his possession clear evidence of his innocence for months but declined to share it with the press because the commissioner told him not to.

Bob spent four months getting played, got angry for a day, and then within three minutes at arriving at an owner’s meeting, espoused the ideals of surrendering to a false narrative (and abandoning his QB) for the sake of the greater good. It’s difficult to overstate his cowardice.

 

[NashuaPats]

A quote from the 56 Lies article:

"This well-placed item in the table of contents of the Wells Report immediately leads a casual reader to assume that McNally used this term immediately prior to the AFCCG. In reality, the text occurred in May, 2014."

This is a bombshell to me. I had no idea the texts occurred in May. That isn't even training camp. OTA's??

Exactly! My favorite misrepresented text was one about Jastremski giving a large needle to McNally. Wells claimed this must be the needle he used to deflate the footballs.

In reality, in context, the two friends had a conversation making fun of each other. MCNally used a pun telling J that his boss must be working his “balls” over hard. Jastremski told McNally that he had a big needle for him referring to his pecker.

Wells used this **** joke as evidence even calling it the smoking gun and the national media ran with it.

 

[Joker]

A quote from the 56 Lies article:

"This well-placed item in the table of contents of the Wells Report immediately leads a casual reader to assume that McNally used this term immediately prior to the AFCCG. In reality, the text occurred in May, 2014."

This is a bombshell to me. I had no idea the texts occurred in May. That isn't even training camp. OTA's??

We covered all this in depth. The Dehategate thread must be archived. We were on top of this IDIOCY from the start...and it's ONE tweet in MAY between Jastrzemski and McNally taken 100% out of context, and did indeed refer to weight loss.It was a planned set-up by NFL offices with Kensil as the spearhead. THIS is proven FACT. Every single time I ask one of these goddyamned "the phone!" morons why Kensil disappeared incommunicado for TWO YEARS in China right after the TRUTH came out, all I get is crickets. The reason, of course, is clear. It WAS a setup to damage Brady and by extension, BB. This is why Quisling Bob capitulated so early on. The 32 Uber Alles is Fuhrer Goodell's mantra.

 

[Koma]

A quote from the 56 Lies article:

"This well-placed item in the table of contents of the Wells Report immediately leads a casual reader to assume that McNally used this term immediately prior to the AFCCG. In reality, the text occurred in May, 2014."

This is a bombshell to me. I had no idea the texts occurred in May. That isn't even training camp. OTA's??

McNally sent a text with the word "deflator" in it on May 9, 2014. This was day 2 of the NFL draft that year, so I can't imagine any on-field activity that would require McNally or Jastremki's presence was going on. If they weren't doing anything with the Patriots at the time then it raises the possibility that they weren't talking about football or doctoring footballs.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

McNally sent a text with the word "deflator" in it on May 9, 2014. This was day 2 of the NFL draft that year, so I can't imagine any on-field activity that would require McNally or Jastremki's presence was going on. If they weren't doing anything with the Patriots at the time then it raises the possibility that they weren't talking about football or doctoring footballs.

Their job was to work the balls. Tom liked the balls broken in and as deflated as possible. Like any other staffers on any other team, they’re allowed to do whatever the hell they want with the footballs, provided they don’t tamper with them after game submissions.

The investigation was initially about whether or not Brady orchestrated a complex scheme to get a massive advantage. Then it became about whether the ball boys deflated them in a bathroom. Then it became about whether any reference to deflating balls could be found, even though the context about deflating balls makes no reference to any underhanded activities.

The idea that two guys whose job was to prepare footballs the way Brady liked them - used the word DEFLATOR - doesn’t actually prove or even suggest anything. Especially since there are other references to legal ball pressures and references to the refs inflating them way too high, but no reference during those exchanges to any type of sneakiness. “I’m going to ESPN” is one of the dumbest attempts at a smoking gun I’ve ever seen.

In terms of Brady’s knowledge, the idea was initially shoved down everyone’s throat that he is so precise (Belichick too) that he knows the ball pressure to a micro fraction. And other QB pundits falsely asserted they knew, too, which looks idiotic in retrospect considering weather changes. But after reading the transcripts, I think it’s obvious Brady had absolutely no clue what the hell PSI even was, though he, like any QB, preferred the balls to feel a certain way. He tried to explain that during that first press conference, yet he was panned for it. I don’t think he even knew what the hell they were talking about regarding specific air pressure levels. I don’t think most QBs at that time knew what the hell they were talking about.

This was all based on a false media report suggesting the balls were extremely underinflated and it was so obvious as the public thought they were basically playing with a squishy ball. The goalposts of the investigation changed at every turn. Just look at the initial bombshell conclusions from everyone the day Deflategate broke to the pathetic, watered down conclusion: “generally aware of a possible change of 0.003% PSI, maybe, which didn’t give any advantage but possibly could have? Also, wouldn’t turn over phone could be a bad thing 2? I dunno...LoL - Ted Wells.”

 

[sb1]

What was McNally’s problem with Brady? So salty in the texts lol

 

[Dr Pain]

And then this happened anyway




Still pisses me off.

This was after the NBA forced that Stirling guy to sell.

 

[Dr Pain]

Kravitz kept harping on that none of the Colts balls were affected. Then it comes out that they were measured last, they had time warm up and they measured only do 4 before the half ended and that 3 of the 4 Colts balls measured still were under. The biggest question is who gave the fake #s to the Patriots and why. Those threw the Patriots as those #s were so low science could not explain. Kravitz still like to pretend the Colts balls all measured fine

 

[Tottie]

I just watched the Deflategate documentary. It's really well done. I don't know how Kravitz or anyone with half a brain can see it and not realize what a railroad job Deflategate was...even with the presence of noted yahoo Jerry Thornton.

Thanks for the plug I watched it last night. This was botched by the Patriots. It was so obvious from the start that this was complete nonsense and that it wasn't going to be about facts. Bob Kraft should of leaked the actual PSI numbers immediately. Patriot lawyers said it took 8 weeks to get them but I don't believe for one second Bob Kraft wouldn't of had the power to get them sooner. He allowed his buddies to drag this thing out on Brady.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

During the “investigation,” the Patriots had the actual PSI numbers in their possession. They could have easily leaked those numbers and wrecked the NFL’s narrative, preemptively calling out the BS before the Wells bomb hit.

Bob trusted the other owners and Goodell, though, and trusted the process even while it was incredibly obvious to everyone they were being railroaded.

Imagine if another owner’s Hall of Fame quarterback was being railroaded, and the owner had in his possession clear evidence of his innocence for months but declined to share it with the press because the commissioner told him not to.

Bob spent four months getting played, got angry for a day, and then within three minutes at arriving at an owner’s meeting, espoused the ideals of surrendering to a false narrative (and abandoning his QB) for the sake of the greater good. It’s difficult to overstate his cowardice.

Plus Bendover Bob ejected Antonio Brown precipitously to deflect bad press from his Happy Ending episode.
We see how badly TFB wanted Antonio by his lobbying for AB in Tamper even with the HC saying Brown was not needed.
And then senile Bob employed utter clowns to videotape a team's sideline costing us the valuable 15th pick in the 3rd round, a top 100 pick.

 

[Gator Mike]

During the “investigation,” the Patriots had the actual PSI numbers in their possession. They could have easily leaked those numbers and wrecked the NFL’s narrative, preemptively calling out the BS before the Wells bomb hit.

Bob trusted the other owners and Goodell, though, and trusted the process even while it was incredibly obvious to everyone they were being railroaded.

Imagine if another owner’s Hall of Fame quarterback was being railroaded, and the owner had in his possession clear evidence of his innocence for months but declined to share it with the press because the commissioner told him not to.

They clearly didn't leak specifics, but I know for a fact that before the Wells Report was released, Tom Curran was hinting heavily that Mortensen's original report was inaccurate.

 

[Ring 6]

During the “investigation,” the Patriots had the actual PSI numbers in their possession. They could have easily leaked those numbers and wrecked the NFL’s narrative, preemptively calling out the BS before the Wells bomb hit.

Bob trusted the other owners and Goodell, though, and trusted the process even while it was incredibly obvious to everyone they were being railroaded.

Imagine if another owner’s Hall of Fame quarterback was being railroaded, and the owner had in his possession clear evidence of his innocence for months but declined to share it with the press because the commissioner told him not to.

Bob spent four months getting played, got angry for a day, and then within three minutes at arriving at an owner’s meeting, espoused the ideals of surrendering to a false narrative (and abandoning his QB) for the sake of the greater good. It’s difficult to overstate his cowardice.

Your facts are shaky. It took them a very long time to actually get the numbers and when they got them they were explicitly told they were not to disclose them publicly.

 

[Ring 6]

Thanks for the plug I watched it last night. This was botched by the Patriots. It was so obvious from the start that this was complete nonsense and that it wasn't going to be about facts. Bob Kraft should of leaked the actual PSI numbers immediately. Patriot lawyers said it took 8 weeks to get them but I don't believe for one second Bob Kraft wouldn't of had the power to get them sooner. He allowed his buddies to drag this thing out on Brady.

The patriots overriding approach to the investigation was to comply.

 

[Ring 6]

Their job was to work the balls. Tom liked the balls broken in and as deflated as possible. Like any other staffers on any other team, they’re allowed to do whatever the hell they want with the footballs, provided they don’t tamper with them after game submissions.

The investigation was initially about whether or not Brady orchestrated a complex scheme to get a massive advantage. Then it became about whether the ball boys deflated them in a bathroom. Then it became about whether any reference to deflating balls could be found, even though the context about deflating balls makes no reference to any underhanded activities.

The idea that two guys whose job was to prepare footballs the way Brady liked them - used the word DEFLATOR - doesn’t actually prove or even suggest anything. Especially since there are other references to legal ball pressures and references to the refs inflating them way too high, but no reference during those exchanges to any type of sneakiness. “I’m going to ESPN” is one of the dumbest attempts at a smoking gun I’ve ever seen.

In terms of Brady’s knowledge, the idea was initially shoved down everyone’s throat that he is so precise (Belichick too) that he knows the ball pressure to a micro fraction. And other QB pundits falsely asserted they knew, too, which looks idiotic in retrospect considering weather changes. But after reading the transcripts, I think it’s obvious Brady had absolutely no clue what the hell PSI even was, though he, like any QB, preferred the balls to feel a certain way. He tried to explain that during that first press conference, yet he was panned for it. I don’t think he even knew what the hell they were talking about regarding specific air pressure levels. I don’t think most QBs at that time knew what the hell they were talking about.

This was all based on a false media report suggesting the balls were extremely underinflated and it was so obvious as the public thought they were basically playing with a squishy ball. The goalposts of the investigation changed at every turn. Just look at the initial bombshell conclusions from everyone the day Deflategate broke to the pathetic, watered down conclusion: “generally aware of a possible change of 0.003% PSI, maybe, which didn’t give any advantage but possibly could have? Also, wouldn’t turn over phone could be a bad thing 2? I dunno...LoL - Ted Wells.”

Ultimately the league wanted a fall guy. If they punished the team and didn’t frame Brady them it would have fallen on belichick. After spygate that would have meant a huge suspension which would hurt the league.
Just take a step back for a minute and think about this, even assuming there actually was deflation.
The league finds that ball boys messed with ball inflation. With no direct evidence if anyone instructing them to, the league picks out the best known player, and blames him.
The bigger issue is that goddell was under pressure for suspending black players (rice, Peterson) and didn’t have a white example to match up and claim he wasn’t racist. Voila.

 

[Tottie]

The patriots overriding approach to the investigation was to comply.

As they basically have always done but sometimes maybe that's not the way to go. Would other owners have stood by as the league piles up on their star QB? To leak fake numbers like that right off the bat is basically insane. Would Jerry of let it all go for the 'greater good'?

 

[Dr Pain]

The bigger issue is that goddell was under pressure for suspending black players (rice, Peterson) and didn’t have a white example to match up and claim he wasn’t racist. Voila.

This was a huge part of it which goes unspoken