Extend Newton

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

New plan: Let's enter the dalton sweepstakes. I've never been to a circus so this will help fill that void.....

 

[captain stone]

Cam says he doesn't know where his infection came from.

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That's not what I heard...

 

[BennyBledsoe]

I'd extend him for a couple of years. Anything beyond that and it gets less and less certain.

But I'd rather not. I'd rather find out if Stidham can improve.

 

[captain stone]

Who is better that we can get

Not a whole lot here, but there's a couple of names I would rather have next season than our current starter:

2024 NFL Free Agents Tracker

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Plus there's also the draft...

 

[Toofy]

Stidham has a gun arm. Why not test the water with him. Even josh allen was not great in his first year . Need to give time for folks to develop . We have been spoilt by brady. We have to be in for the long haul and be satisfied with playoff appearance. Unless we get super lucky with cam and everyone on offense magically become a super man..

 

[lancerman]

agree Stidham could still be the guy.
We really missed out on Luck.
Watching the Steelers hit the Lottery on Claypool wants me to make that Steelers scout or new gm
Yes we should trade Gilmore for picks or a impact receiver.

1. Stidham has shown absolutely nothing to prove he is relevant of discussion much less “the guy”. If he didn’t have a Pats jersey, 90% of this board would be unaware of him.

2. We were never within a position to get Luck ever.

3.

Not a whole lot here, but there's a couple of names I would rather have next season than our current starter:

2024 NFL Free Agents Tracker

Tracking the status and signings of all 2024 NFL free agents.

www.spotrac.com

Plus there's also the draft...

Okay

1. Assuming the Cowboys let Dak go, he’s going to ask for a multi year deal that rivals Mahomes numbers and he’s going to want it to end early enough so he can renegotiate. This board is going to scream bloody murder over the 40 million price tag that Dak will want and get somewhere. He’s also not likely to be on the market.

2. Phillip Rivers maybe........ he’s about 8 years older than Cam, has showed signs of decline, is currently on one of his lower paces for yards and TD’s but he has higher efficiency due to low volume. He’s at best a 1 year solution though. He’s going to likely ask for more than 25 million though as this is his prove it year after being let go. He also is known to not like big city markets and it was highly rumored he had issues being in LA. He’s also failed to win a goddamn thing with much more talent than we have

3. Brissett.... I like him but no. He’s not a starter and he’s not better then Newton. You can get him for cheap but he’s going to have more issues than whatever problems you have with Cam. He can barely break 3000 yards, had never had a 90 passer rating and can’t run the way other mobile QB’s can. His mechanics are incredibly slow.

4. Trubisky/Fitzpatrick..... they will be cheap. They also aren’t better than Cam and it would be a laughable waste of time.

5. Flacco is done

6. Winston is an interception machine.

7. Dalton is the only good other interesting one imo and he hasn’t won a single playoff game and showed he is crapping the bed in Dallas

Everyone else on there is a waste of time. So hope Dallas drops Dak and win a bidding war, pay a 39 year old upwards of 30 million million and prey he isn’t done, or the Red Rifle who is stinking up the joint and never won a playoff game. Sorry but unless you guys are willing to break the bank on Dak in a pie and the sky scenario (Dallas isn’t letting him go) it’s either Cam or draft.

Now let’s look at the draft. Unless we completely lose out, we aren’t getting Lawrence or Fields. So really Trey Lance is probably the best bet. Probably need to trade up to get him too. But it’s more possible. Will Bill do that? Doubt it. We’d still probably need to go at best 3-13 to really be in position.

And even so, at that point, pay Cam a couple years while he develops

 

[MainePatsFan26]

1. Stidham has shown absolutely nothing to prove he is relevant of discussion much less “the guy”. If he didn’t have a Pats jersey, 90% of this board would be unaware of him.

2. We were never within a position to get Luck ever.

3.

Okay

1. Assuming the Cowboys let Dak go, he’s going to ask for a multi year deal that rivals Mahomes numbers and he’s going to want it to end early enough so he can renegotiate. This board is going to scream bloody murder over the 40 million price tag that Dak will want and get somewhere. He’s also not likely to be on the market.

2. Phillip Rivers maybe........ he’s about 8 years older than Cam, has showed signs of decline, is currently on one of his lower paces for yards and TD’s but he has higher efficiency due to low volume. He’s at best a 1 year solution though. He’s going to likely ask for more than 25 million though as this is his prove it year after being let go. He also is known to not like big city markets and it was highly rumored he had issues being in LA. He’s also failed to win a goddamn thing with much more talent than we have

3. Brissett.... I like him but no. He’s not a starter and he’s not better then Newton. You can get him for cheap but he’s going to have more issues than whatever problems you have with Cam. He can barely break 3000 yards, had never had a 90 passer rating and can’t run the way other mobile QB’s can. His mechanics are incredibly slow.

4. Trubisky/Fitzpatrick..... they will be cheap. They also aren’t better than Cam and it would be a laughable waste of time.

5. Flacco is done

6. Winston is an interception machine.

7. Dalton is the only good other interesting one imo and he hasn’t won a single playoff game and showed he is crapping the bed in Dallas

Everyone else on there is a waste of time. So hope Dallas drops Dak and win a bidding war, pay a 39 year old upwards of 30 million million and prey he isn’t done, or the Red Rifle who is stinking up the joint and never won a playoff game. Sorry but unless you guys are willing to break the bank on Dak in a pie and the sky scenario (Dallas isn’t letting him go) it’s either Cam or draft.

Now let’s look at the draft. Unless we completely lose out, we aren’t getting Lawrence or Fields. So really Trey Lance is probably the best bet. Probably need to trade up to get him too. But it’s more possible. Will Bill do that? Doubt it. We’d still probably need to go at best 3-13 to really be in position.

And even so, at that point, pay Cam a couple years while he develops

All of these options prolong the pain by being better than a young player learning the ropes but not enough to succeed in the playoffs. They are all the path to mediocrity.

The offense is terrible at so many positions that this season is a wash without immediate improvement. With that in mind, I hope we focus on developing Stidham if only so we can see if he can improve with a few starts. And if he loses, we can play our way to higher draft picks. Because we can get back to being good in 3-4 years if we play the draft right. But free agency Band-Aids won't work anymore.

 

[Ring 6]

And now that QB is in Tampa with a near 10 point higher passer rating, 4% higher completion percentage, on pace for 600 more yards than last year, on pace to blow past his TD number last year, slinging the ball deep and making it looking easy.

Last year you had people on here calling him washed.

Those people who judged him last year were wrong.

His numbers through 6 games were better last year.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

Cam won't ever be Brady. Nobody we ever watch for this team ever will again. However, we can't forget Cam didn't look bad before this game. He had one day of practice and recently had covid. Let's hope he plays better next week.

He looked really bad against the Raiders!

 

[farn]

Stidham has a gun arm. Why not test the water with him. Even josh allen was not great in his first year . Need to give time for folks to develop . We have been spoilt by brady. We have to be in for the long haul and be satisfied with playoff appearance. Unless we get super lucky with cam and everyone on offense magically become a super man..

Josh Allen is STILL not great...

 

[Lagaffe_07]

Josh Allen is STILL not great...

I am not a huge Josh Allen fan but he has been really good this year.

 

[sb1]

He looked really bad against the Raiders!

If that’s true then by that standard Brady was one of if not the worst QB in pro football his last two games with us.

He probably really was too.

 

[Sfpat]

I am not a huge Josh Allen fan but he has been really good this year.

Did you watch his last two games (shown on national TV)?

 

[sb1]

I am not a huge Josh Allen fan but he has been really good this year.

His last two games both against good teams: 77.6 and 73.4 passer rating.

 

[farn]

I am not a huge Josh Allen fan but he has been really good this year.

Recheck last two games.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

If that’s true then by that standard Brady was one of if not the worst QB in pro football his last two games with us.

He probably really was too.

Sure but Brady last two games as a patriots have better rating than the last two start by Cam so Cam is worse than the worse QB in pro football by you

 

[Lagaffe_07]

His last two games both against good teams: 77.6 and 73.4 passer rating.

He still had a Qbr of 63.2 and 85.7 in those games

 

[sb1]

He still had a Qbr of 63.2 and 85.7 in those games

No I looked it up - Allen was 77.6 and 73.4.

Definitely improved over the last couple of years but still flaws in his game.

Edit: Oh you were talking QBR. Ok. Still flaws in his game though. Very inaccurate on Monday.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

No I looked it up - Allen was 77.6 and 73.4.

Definitely improved over the last couple of years but still flaws in his game.

Edit: Oh you were talking QBR. Ok. Still flaws in his game though. Very inaccurate on Monday.

QB rating and QBR are different stats

Edit: Sorry, I posted to quickly

 

[sb1]

Sure but Brady last two games as a patriots have better rating than the last two start by Cam so Cam is worse than the worse QB in pro football by you

My point was it's kinda over the top to say Cam was very bad against the Raiders. He does need to get better in the passing game though, I'll agree with that.