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So how many of ours were fixed?These things happen sometimes, young fella..
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I think a lot of this board compensated for losing Brady by thinking Stidham had to be the guy because he was the only one left and that Belichick wouldn’t have him in that position if he didn’t absolutely believe in him. So based off nothing but wishful thinking people did what a lot of other fans in similar positions do and believe the best about an unknown quantity.@Conflicted Panthers fan You'll find on this board that people actually think a guy (Stidum) has the advantage of winning the starting job just because he's been with the team for a year. And in that year, he took over for Brady in a blowout win against the Jets (up 30-7 in the 4th Q), only to get benched immediately after his inability to complete basic throws and tossing a pick six. This board has a weird obsession with this guy.
True story.
Steve Young played 4 full seasons before making and winning a SB. Cam played 5 before making a SB and losing it. Steve actually did it though after playing professional ball for 11 seasons which is about where Cam is at.I'm not missing anything.
You are certainly entitled to be excited to see what Cam might do as a Patriot (I too am excited to see what he might do) but conflating his prospects with HOF'er Steve Young's accomplishments is completely illogical and pure fantasy...
The only reason Young didn't "do anything" prior to age 30 is because he didn't have the opportunity to play on a regular basis.
Hey, quick question, what's your position on the Wonderlic test?
Oh and what about the other thing?
Uh...not quite accurate. Young started at QB for Tampa Bay in his 2nd season 14 games...and he made 101 and 92 attempts in 11 and 10 games in 88 and 89 before siitng out almost completely in 1990 because of Montana.
Steve Young Career Stats | NFL.com
he started 14 games for Tampa Bay in his second season...no opportunity?In his first 6 season in the league Steve Young only started 29 games --- basically unheard of for a future Hall of Famer.
To reiterate, the only reason Young didn't "do anything" prior to age 30 is because he didn't have the opportunity to play on a regular basis.
...if he can play like it's 2015 again... happy camper.
he started 14 games for Tampa Bay in his second season...no opportunity?
I think a lot of this board compensated for losing Brady by thinking Stidham had to be the guy because he was the only one left and that Belichick wouldn’t have him in that position if he didn’t absolutely believe in him. So based off nothing but wishful thinking people did what a lot of other fans in similar positions do and believe the best about an unknown quantity.
Then Cam got signed and it clashed with all the faith that was put in Stidham because now Belichick was in fact looking for something else and Stidham being the big savior was in doubt. So that’s where that backlash came from. It was always mostly emotional. No reason to think Stidham is better than Nathan Peterman another guy who looked good in practice and pre season but couldn’t handle the big lights. Not to say Stidham can’t, but I put way more value on his appearance vs a very bad Jets team than reports out of practice
Not entirely true. Young actually started 39/65 games his first 7 seasons. That’s actually a pretty generous “opportunity” to show what you’re made of. Quite simply; though hindsight is 20/20, Tampa Bay made a huge mistake by trading Young in ‘87. However, to be fair, Young didn’t play well due to lack of talent/inept management. Point is, roughly 40/65 games is plenty of time to show whether or not you’re cut out for this league. Guys like Gannon, Warner and Young are outliers though..In his first 6 season in the league Steve Young only started 29 games --- basically unheard of for a future Hall of Famer.
To reiterate, the only reason Young didn't "do anything" prior to age 30 is because he didn't have the opportunity to play on a regular basis.
There-in lay the rub.
In you're opinion what are the odds he plays like "it's 2015 again"?
Personally I thought the Panthers would (and should) definitely retain Cam under the contract that was in place --- that they didn't, combined with the fact he didn't get a legit offer from any other NFL team....
....raises a lot of questions.
So here's a question, in the somewhat recent past who is on the list of players BB extended a lifeline to that nobody else in the NFL would touch?
Which of them stuck for more than a cup of coffee?
Is there a chance the coaching staff won't change the offense that much week to week? That may be more something you can do when you have a QB who is cerebral, a perfectionist and a film student and the like.
@Conflicted Panthers fan You'll find on this board that people actually think a guy (Stidum) has the advantage of winning the starting job just because he's been with the team for a year. This board has a weird obsession with this guy. that
True story.
Talk about making up what you want....
They were 1 game under .500 outside of 2015 so they weren’t sitting in a lot of leads.
With the GOAT they couldn’t win a WC game. So you are saying Newton is better than Brady?
I think you mean 2019 but injuries are injuries and there aren’t a heck of a lot of guys missing that will be magically back.There were a lot of players mission from the 2018 edition of the Patriots by the time they fell apart at the end of the season, particularly on offense. It was not Brady's fault they fizzled in 2018.
Wait are you arguing Cam Newton is a better qb them Steve Young? Seriously?Steve Young played 4 full seasons before making and winning a SB. Cam played 5 before making a SB and losing it. Steve actually did it though after playing professional ball for 11 seasons which is about where Cam is at.
Here are the differences. Young was on a stacked team with Jerry Rice and Deion Sanders who are the best ever at their positions and they played a Chargers team in the pitiful AFC at the time that was among the worst to ever be in a SB while Cam played one of the best SB era defenses ever.
Not saying Cam is as good. But let’s not elevate Young to god status. Especially when there are things on his legs that Can can do much better than Young could dream
I was thinking of this yesterday. Brady has had more hairstyles than almost anyone in the league at one point between 06-12. Once and a great while someone would poke fun but nothing to the effect of this. Where people think it's actually a big deal.
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