OT: When you go out, are you wearing a mask?

[hornetfb85]

In the process of purchasing....

Just have to get with Laremy Tunsil to find a good seller.

 

[primetime]

Our senior hours are an additional hour before the store opens.

OK, I've thought about what you said. Younger and older folks have a similar likelihood to carry the virus.

So, my options are to go at 7, with older folks who are more likely to show symptoms if they have the virus. Or, I can go at 9 with younger folks who are less likely to show symptoms if they have the virus.

Isn't there more danger to me and my wife to be among the seniors who are more likely to be showing symptoms?

I don't think the danger really changes, but you get to buy stuff before all the hoarders show up. Think that's the senior hours thing.

 

[primetime]

I'm skeptical the virus remains infectious on surfaces in real world settings for as long as those studies in laboratory settings claim it does but there's no reason not to be safe. The main source of infection is still going to be close contact with infectious individuals like with flu.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Whilst traveling to/from/in Asia a few weeks ago (which feels like years ago) I wore a mask on planes and airports just to prevent myself from touching my face with my dirty dirty fingers.

Seeing you here made my day ... and i had a rough one medically.

Nice to see you PJ.

 

[BTTA]

I don't think the danger really changes, but you get to buy stuff before all the hoarders show up. Think that's the senior hours thing.

It changes in that:
1. the staff has cleaned the store thoroughly after shut down the night before.
2. the staff that shows up hasn't been hanging around the crowded store for hours
3. getting there at the opening of sr hours means a quick trip with no waits, if the shopping list is kept to a minimum.
4. as you said, the shelves are as full as they will be all week.
5. we older folks are generally a bit slower and more gentle with each other
6. at Whole Foods, the paid shoppers aren't into high gear yet, so there are fewer of them rushing around to fill orders (they are paid to be fast, and it changes the feel of the store).

 

[BTTA]

Whilst traveling to/from/in Asia a few weeks ago (which feels like years ago) I wore a mask on planes and airports just to prevent myself from touching my face with my dirty dirty fingers.

Hey, welcome back!

It has been so calm and civil around here during your absence. Try not to mess it up with hostility and judgments of people, ok?

 

[Adam Seward]

Our senior hours are an additional hour before the store opens.

OK, I've thought about what you said. Younger and older folks have a similar likelihood to carry the virus.

So, my options are to go at 7, with older folks who are more likely to show symptoms if they have the virus. Or, I can go at 9 with younger folks who are less likely to show symptoms if they have the virus.

Isn't there more danger to me and my wife to be among the seniors who are more likely to be showing symptoms?

BTTA hit it pretty well, I think also less likely in AM to touch something on a shelf that has been handled by multiple people through out the day.

Lastly your phone also after going into any public place ... wipe it sown.

Ive been putting mine in a ziplock sandwich bag. Put it in the bag in the car, take it out after sanitizing hands and zip mechanism.

 

[wizwor]

I have respiratory issues. I am allergic to almost everything. I have a book of 400 items which I use to manage my exposure to the things that make it hard for me to breathe. I have used this book to manage my behavior so that I do not take any medications. This is a great feat.

I also manage my behavior. I have done this for two decades. I'm pretty good at keeping myself healthy. I manage this despite not wrapping myself in latex or hiding from other human beings.

I had been planning a road trip to a remote location. In the weeks leading up to the trip, I limited my exposure to people who were or had recently been ill. I did this because 1) I did not want to make the ten hour commute sick (it is the flu season, afterall) and 2) because I did not want to be denied access at the gate. Just the same, when one of the people at that facility offered me an elbow, I hugged him. Seriously, am I the only one who notices how much closer eyes, nose, and mouth are when touching elbows rather than shaking hands? And haven't we all been advised to cough and sneeze into those elbows?

I work for an 'essential business' -- whatever that means. I go to work on an 'as needed basis'. I work elbow-to-elbow with strangers on a daily basis. I have yet to work with someone who is sick and I have not yet gotten sick.

I have, however, been exposed to serious mental illness. The woman I work for has a line outside her office -- a piece of masking tape and two more pieces making an X across her doorway. No one is welcome beyond that line. She, on the other hand, comes into my office and stands a mere two feet from me while making her coffee. Moving a safe into our facility's guard house, the tenants insisted the movers go out the back door. This kind of freaked me out because the guys -- great guys -- were black. It didn't occur to me that they simply didn't want any human beings to walk past them.

I'm not interested in accommodating the lunatics. If you call asking me for help then impose restrictions, I hang up the phone. It's a fu**ing virus. Deal with it.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

I'm skeptical the virus remains infectious on surfaces in real world settings for as long as those studies in laboratory settings claim it does but there's no reason not to be safe. The main source of infection is still going to be close contact with infectious individuals like with flu.

in a lab we know but the elements..we don't. But i went to pump gas today and just fill up and that has to be one of the dirtiest things I never thought about until this.

 

[primetime]

It changes in that:
1. the staff has cleaned the store thoroughly after shut down the night before.
2. the staff that shows up hasn't been hanging around the crowded store for hours
3. getting there at the opening of sr hours means a quick trip with no waits, if the shopping list is kept to a minimum.
4. as you said, the shelves are as full as they will be all week.
5. we older folks are generally a bit slower and more gentle with each other
6. at Whole Foods, the paid shoppers aren't into high gear yet, so there are fewer of them rushing around to fill orders (they are paid to be fast, and it changes the feel of the store).

Just wanted to reply specifically to give you props on a thoroughly considered post.

 

[primetime]

in a lab we know but the elements..we don't. But i went to pump gas today and just fill up and that has to be one of the dirtiest things I never thought about until this.

Pretty much everything we do as a matter of course (pump gas, eat food, etc) killed people until someone figured out ways to mitigate the issues. The scientific method is much more intuitive than it seems.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

It was strange because I went out at 830 this AM to the grocery store and get gas. As i was on Rt 9 in Worcester, There were no cars out. I was the only one at the pump. And the TV on the pump could be heard a good ways out with it saying "Stay inside if sick, Contact your doctor if...ect"

As i looked out at the empty road it really felt like I was in a movie or some doomsday situation.

 

[mgteich]

I work at a hospital and they told us the other day that a mask can potentially help the spread of the virus. They only want people working directly with patients to wear them.

That is 100% correct. Those in the operating room have worn surgical masks for 100 years. Those masks are to protect the patients.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Just out of curiosity. I haven't to this point, but my wife and I were talking tonight and I think the concern level has reached a point where we're considering it when going to the grocery store but I'm curious to hear if others have reached that point yet.

I hold my breathe when walking past people. Girl at doctor told me today a mask will not help someone who is not sick ... touching an infected spot and transferring that to your body is the problem.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

it really felt like I was in a movie or some doomsday situation

I've felt that way for 27 years now without these

 

[mgteich]

I'm skeptical the virus remains infectious on surfaces in real world settings for as long as those studies in laboratory settings claim it does but there's no reason not to be safe. The main source of infection is still going to be close contact with infectious individuals like with flu.

I agree. I don't see the danger in foodstuffs, deliveries, cardboard and mail. But them I am a scientist and have no tendencies toward conspiracies.

However, I think in the abundance of caution, it is reasonable not to touch surfaces (like door knobs or other surfaces in stores) that have been handled by many others. After all, you did say "main" source of infection. I suspect that surfaces in kitchens and crew quarters may have contributed to spreading on the cruise ships.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

I agree. I don't see the danger in foodstuffs, deliveries, cardboard and mail. But them I am a scientist and have no tendencies toward conspiracies.

I will generally agree with you with respect to the CONTENTS of mail and packages.

However, how much are you willing to risk that the delivery person or letter carrier or whatever didn’t unknowingly put a bunch of virus on the exterior of your stuff while delivering it?

As for foodstuffs, just like with doorknobs, etc. many people are potentially handling those apples, or jar of whatever, or box of whatever. That’s just how people shop.

No conspiratorial thoughts needed.

 

[BTTA]

At the store this morning at 6:50, for the senior hours. Was sixth in line. Got carded. Grabbed about forty items. In and out in 20 minutes. Staff doing a great job - keeping order, moving us through quickly, being pleasant.

Got home, and passed the wife's "did you remember to get...?" test.

Good way to start a pandemic day.

 

[Triumph]

From a front line Dr in NYC who is solely treating this virus. Cant post the video for fear of triggering.

1 Wash hands incessantly.
2 Dont touch your face. Eyes, nose and mouth.
3 The mask is only good if youre in a confined area with a person who has the virus.

He states that every day they learn more and that the situation is getting better.

 

[Ross12]

We're not allowed to go out here in PA now