What Happens to the Fan Base??

[The Boston Patriot]

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Roberto Duran
Soothsayer

Instead of Sooth, that should read ballbuster. Glory Days for sure!

 

[mgteich]

There is no system. The Patriots prepare for whatever opponent they face each week..

So, for you, playing offense for the patriots is more difficult than elsewhere, just do your job? I guess all those who have had troubles went on to fail elsewhere.

 

[p8ryts]

It's been nearly two decades since the Pats had a losing season. Realistically, do they have enough goodwill to sellout the stadium regardless of performance for the next few years? Or, will the Waiting List and attendance shrink dramatically?

Boston isn't Atlanta or Miami. I'd like to think we are more diehard. What you say?

It depends on their success. Look at Washington. They had an extensive waiting list following their Super Bowls in the 80's and 90's but now they can't fill a stadium. Many of the Pats fans will probably fall off because they are only interested in posing as fans of the champs. They can't be considered real Pats fans anyway.

 

[Give Kraft A Hand]

Real fans will fill Gillette every game. The Patriots are one of the select few and probably the best franchise of the modern era. A lot of that is because of Brady but also Belichick. The organization will be fine. Even if they have 3 bad years in a row they won't be on the tier of the Bengals.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

The Brady/Cassel argument is absolute garbage

2007
16-0
43.5% Offensive DVOA (best of all time)
3.37 Points Per Drive (best of all time)
6 Top 10 Defenses Faced
67 Offensive Touchdowns

2008
11-5
12.5% Offensive DVOA
2.42 Points Per Drive
1 Top 10 Defense Faced
42 Offensive Touchdowns

There is no Brady vs Cassel argument. The point argued is BB's ability to coach winning football.
BB got a decent performance out of him, especially given how long ago Matt's last games were played. Woeful QB game inexperience. 11 wins.

 

[Deus Irae]

Real fans will fill Gillette every game.

One day, you "real fans" will have to pass out the handbook with the minimum requirements.

 

[flasox27]

I grew up watching Giants football before the AFL started and switched to the Pats in 1960 so I have seen the good and bad. I moved to Florida 35 years ago but still root for them. A real fan will support the team not just a player.

 

[Triumph]

Instead of Sooth, that should read ballbuster. Glory Days for sure!

Poor Sooth passed on.

 

[Deus Irae]

I grew up watching Giants football before the AFL started and switched to the Pats in 1960 so I have seen the good and bad. I moved to Florida 35 years ago but still root for them. A real fan will support the team not just a player.

To repeat:

One day, you "real fans" will have to pass out the handbook with the minimum requirements.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

To repeat:

One day, you "real fans" will have to pass out the handbook with the minimum requirements.

Nope. Not gonna do it. It's like double secret probation!

 

[QuantumMechanic]

The minimum requirement for being a Pats fan: rooting for NE to beat whoever they are playing.

Sadly, apparently even that low bar is too much for too many here. Good riddance to you.

Though I expect most of you will be like those liberal celebrities who say how they’re moving to Canada and then never do. Certainly the biggest loudmouth of you is just like them.

 

[juxtapoz15]

I’ve been a Pats fan since Bledsoe’s rookie year and live 8 hours away in central PA. Back then the only Patriots news I received was from PFW the newspaper. I’ll still root for the Pats. But in all reality I probably won’t shell out $300/year for NFL Sunday Ticket to be able to watch them play every game. And I doubt they will be televised nationally much after next year. I have 7 year old twin girls and will probably spend more time with them instead.

 

[goheels22002]

So, for you, playing offense for the patriots is more difficult than elsewhere, just do your job? I guess all those who have had troubles went on to fail elsewhere.

Odd reaction to what I wrote, @mgteich . Maybe I wasn't precise enough in my comments. I wasn't really saying anything about the Patriots offense compared to other teams or what any players could or could not achieve in another offense.

Offensive schemes, as you know, are dynamic. They depend upon the skills of players, injuries, years of experience of key players, especially QBs, Offensive Coordinator, etc.

The Patriots' offense under McDaniels, is I believe, more complex than other teams, and more difficult for receivers than other places. It's critical to remember that McDaniels took over as OC when Brady was a veteran. The offense under Charlie Weis was simpler in the early Brady years as Brady learned to read defenses in real time.

I think OL is tougher than most under McDaniels who was fortunate to have the best OL coach at his side in Scarnecchia. Running back is, for me, the least complicated of the position groups because players were brought in for their specific roles.

Receivers had (past tense) the toughest job to react to the defense on the same page with Brady. Some guys could do it, many more players could not. (Ochocinco says hello.) Sure, the Pats offense was much harder than the Joe Flacco Ravens years which relied on Jump Ball Joe's arm more than his ability to read a defense and adjust at the line of scrimmage.

This coming season, we're likely to see a less complicated offense as Stidham or whomever learns the offense along with a newly assembled receiving corps.

As to your point about how players do after they depart the Patriots, I have no comment, other than I think they benefit from playing under Bill Belichick. How they do is entirely dependent on their skill set and where they land. I root for a lot of ex-Patriots in their new digs. I was thrilled for guys who played in big games post-Foxboro - Jimmy G in SF, Jermaine Wiggins in Carolina, Patrick Pass in Houston, Deion Branch in Seattle, Wes Welker in Denver, etc.

 

[raduray]

This is like a slow motion game thread.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

Real fans stay true through good times and bad.

bandwagon fans come and go based on how the team is doing.

I see a lot of bandwagon fans heading out and opportunities for season tickets to go to real fans!

 

[Keyser Söze]

The fair weather/bandwagon fans will move on. The true fans will remain.

 

[TBR]

I'm in Canada although to be honest, I'd prefer to spend the large amount of money for travel + tickets + hotel on seeing Brady in Tampa, than a Pats game (already been, although wish I could've gone more than once). Brady is only going to be around for 2-4 more years, whereas the Patriots aren't going anywhere. Brady isn't just any QB -- he's an all-time sports legend.

 

[Deus Irae]

Real fans stay true through good times and bad.

bandwagon fans come and go based on how the team is doing.

I see a lot of bandwagon fans heading out and opportunities for season tickets to go to real fans!

The fair weather/bandwagon fans will move on. The true fans will remain.

Please enlighten us all by defining what a "real"/"true" fan is, and by informing us all what the minimum requirements are for achieving the "real fan"/"true fan" level of fandom.

 

[Kdo5]

There is no Brady vs Cassel argument. The point argued is BB's ability to coach winning football.
BB got a decent performance out of him, especially given how long ago Matt's last games were played. Woeful QB game inexperience. 11 wins.

2008 had a great team surrounding Matt Cassel, one season removed from 18-1. It would have been a pathetic failure for them to be anything less than 11-5 or 10-6 AT WORST.

very interested to see the 2020 Pats.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

Please enlighten us all by defining what a "real"/"true" fan is, and by informing us all what the minimum requirements are for achieving the "real fan"/"true fan" level of fandom.

How can anyone define what a real fan means to many vastly different people. The real question is what do you think a real fan means?