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  1. Todd Bradley

    Todd Bradley In the Starting Line-Up

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    You can be a “true” Patriots fan and still be pissed off with the team on how they handled the Brady situation and less enthused going forward.

    Welcome to life as just another sports team.
     
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  2. The Boston Patriot

    The Boston Patriot PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    I'm a fan, a really long time fan. I took a lot of **** in the early days for being a fan or the Pats and the AFL so I'm not about to cash out because TB left, no way. What is the truth, if he wanted to stay, he would have worked it out with the team. What he wanted, seemingly the team wasn't willing to go along, so he left. It's a business. I hope everyone succeeds! To be honest, I felt worse when Orr went to Chicago. That broke my heart.
     
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    Oh, I'll still watch....but I would be lying if I said that I wouldn't have a sense of relief. It's been a stressful 20 years of living on the edge of my seat play-by-play.

    I am shifting to more of an evaluation mindset. I think it'll be a lot of fun to see our players develop, get into the draft more, and on Sundays break down our weaknesses.....

    It's no longer about cementing a legacy for me. Although, I want BB to win at least one more Lombardi...I am OK with us winning it all in 2021 after taking a step back in 2020 to shore up the cap, develop young pups, and try to "steal" the AFC East for the fun of it. No pressure for me at all....it'll be fun like the '08 season, IMO.
     
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  4. Coolade

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    Analyze the emotions..



    1. Happy for him.. Brady's happy.

    2. Sad it's over for Pat's, brady....

    3. Jealous of tampa Bay...

    4. Angry that it's over

    5. Frustrated that it's over

    6. Apoplectic that it's over

    7. Jilted that its over

    8. Psychotic that it's over..


    1 and 2 are normal. 3 thru 8 are kinda comical and reveal a certain element that needs further examination.. haha.. :D
     
  5. wizwor

    wizwor Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    Very complicated question. Regardless of the outcome of each game, the Patriots Experience is exponentially better than it was when we sat on benches in Schaefer Stadium. The team will likely be better than some we watched back then. I would not expect the departure of Brady to have a significant impact on attendance/support under normal circumstances.

    But these, as they say, are not normal times. Pats attendance has been falling off since 2014 despite championships in 2014, 2016, and 2018. And despite the potential farewell tour of TB12. During this time, the home team has been sullied with scandal after scandal, the owner has been implicated in his own personal scandals, and the NFL has endured the take-a-knee mess. There have been rumors of contention in the front office and the character of the players has begun to draw scrutiny. It's hard to root for a team when you do not like the players.

    At the same time, the cost of attending a game has soared while the quality of the 'from home' experience has really taken off.

    Now we have the CoronaVirus. Certainly, there will be a lingering concern about public gatherings. No doubt there will be economic fallout.

    Patriots ticket sales will continue to drop. Realistically, they have not EARNED enough goodwill to sellout the stadium. If you want to be a season ticket holder, this is the time to get in line.
     
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    mgteich PatsFans.com Veteran PatsFans.com Supporter

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    fair enough
    Than you for the clarifications.

    With regard to Stidham and 2020, I think that the offense won't be anything close to what we've known. Brady was just too good at reading defenses, going through progression. In addition, the receivers were also expected to read the defenses in the same way as Brady. Of course, all this had to be done within 2 seconds, a t which time Brady would release to the right receiver.
     
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    mgteich PatsFans.com Veteran PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Or we could bring in a Dalton or Winston or Cam at a cap hit of $6M and be favorites to be in the playoffs.
     
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    mgteich PatsFans.com Veteran PatsFans.com Supporter

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    I believe that every game has been sold out since Kraft bought the team.
     
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    wizwor Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    The fact that this is a thread simply shows we must have a large % of people on this board that aren't real Boston or Pats fans... They cherry picked the pats as "their" team for some reason... Likely because in 2007 they liked them in Madden or fantasy football...
    These people are not real fans because they were not born with "it" in their blood...how anyone could even consider not following a team because one player left is beyond me...
    The real fans were sitting in Foxboro on the aluminum bleachers in the 80s and 90s (and before) in a half filled stadium just thrilled if the Pats were only down 10 at halftime...
    The real fans were arranging their schedules so they could LISTEN to home games on the RADIO bc they went on TV...
    I think the real question is why aren't these folks fans of their local football team? Does your local team suck and you just didn't want to put in the work cheering for a loser like we did growing up w the pats?
    Yeah, I get it, international fans, etc, but in today's NFL map 80% of the country has a local team...only reason a guy born/raised in Arizona would be a Pat's fan is bc he's a front runner
     
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    The Pats are now one of the great Franchises in the NFL. Those who understand the game will be with them in good years and not so good years and will be proud to support the team.
     
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    The barometer is Mahomes & Co....right now even without depth in the front 7, I even like our chances of keeping the Chiefs under 27ppg. And the Chiefs D was a lot better with Honey Badger, but still a bit leaky...especially early in games. With a semi-competent rushing offense....we can hang 21-24 on their D with Stidham.

    Right now...twisting my arm..I would say talent/experience-wise:

    Cam>Winston>Dalton>Stidham.

    But the question is BY HOW MUCH? With Cam's injury coupled with his physical play...there are questions. With Winston, it is all about how much he was affected by a bad eye sight. Dalton? Not sure....numbers look good when he is healthy, but he doesn't strike fear in your heart..... At least, with Stidham we have the unknown/unexpected on our side....
     
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    I can't wait to see the Pats lose the division to the Jets 5 years straight so I can finally be a real fan.
     
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    Deus Irae PatsFans.com Retired Jersey Club PatsFans.com Supporter

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    I'm not the one trying to say what it takes to be a real fan. You are.
     
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    wizwor Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    Not for a long time.
     
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    My allegiance to #4 will never be eclipsed.
    I lived for Bruins hockey in the 70’s and Orr was the straw that stirred that drink.
    Almost a half century later, I still dwell about what could have been.
    To a lesser extent, Larry Legend’s physical demise denied fans a few more years of special moments.
    With Brady.....we basked in 20 years of excellence. Missing out on 10% should be survivable.

    My list of gut-punch transactions/ retirements/ injuries/ deaths that affected me most as a fan...

    1) Orr- first his injuries then his trade
    2) Bird - his gimpy back ended what could have been a full decade dynasty marked by the most entertaining B-ball ever played
    3) Jerry Garcia- I was never a Dead Head but went to a couple dozen shows and was transfixed by his unique presence/talent and connection he had with his audience. His death hit me harder than I would have been ever expected.

    That’s it
    Guess I’m a cold hearted motherfu......
     
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  18. italian pat patriot

    italian pat patriot Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    I consider myself in this part of yr post

    And i agree totally
     
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    I have a question for you. I'm making a bold assumption here that Tom Brady is a person. Since none of your definitions of a system include "a person" how can Tom Brady be the system?
     
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    Because without his buy in, the system would have crashed.
     

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