What Happens to the Fan Base??

[Jimke]

I suspect that more fans will give up their season tickets this year than prior years.
Maybe a hundred or so but not thousands. The people who will stop watching the
team are the casual fans. Fans like my wife's friend Nancy and her married children.
They started watching most games when I had season tickets 2011-2018.

 

[goheels22002]

What if Tom Brady really was a system quarterback?

 

[Deus Irae]

What if Tom Brady really was a system quarterback?

Tom Brady was/is the system

 

[archstanton543]

What happens to the fanbase? The wheat will be separated from the chaff. Only real fans will remain.

And ticket prices will come down.

 

[archstanton543]

Tom Brady was/is the system

Then why did Matt Cassel and Jimmy G have success in it?

 

[goheels22002]

Tom Brady was/is the system

So, it will be chaos in 2020. Are we entering the Patriots equivalent of the Joe Kapp era in Minnesota?

 

[Zarozzor]

The Brady/Cassel argument is absolute garbage

2007
16-0
43.5% Offensive DVOA (best of all time)
3.37 Points Per Drive (best of all time)
6 Top 10 Defenses Faced
67 Offensive Touchdowns

2008
11-5
12.5% Offensive DVOA
2.42 Points Per Drive
1 Top 10 Defense Faced
42 Offensive Touchdowns

 

[JarOfMayo51]

Curious to see what happens to the season ticket waiting list now

 

[QuantumMechanic]

“Fans” will leave when the Pats become like every other team in the NFL with not much guaranteed.

It'll be sad to see the Patriots like that, but it'll be good to see the entitled crowd flushed out of the fanbase.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

Curious to see what happens to the season ticket waiting list now

I'm curious to know how many people already came off the waiting list once being on the waiting list no longer allowed you to buy tickets from STHs at 10% over face.

 

[Deus Irae]

Then why did Matt Cassel and Jimmy G have success in it?

Cassel didn't make the playoffs, despite a stacked team.
JAG's "success" was winning 2 games during his time in New England.

 

[Deus Irae]

So, it will be chaos in 2020. Are we entering the Patriots equivalent of the Joe Kapp era in Minnesota?

If Stidham is a success, any major step back should be short lived, though the previous 2 decade stretch of success likely will never happen again. The odds don't favor Stidham becoming an elite QB, though, and that's not a slap at either Stidham or the team.

 

[Steve102]

They aren't going to suck. They may not be dominant, and you might have to sweat out a week 10 game vs some chit team that gets hot. Fans of winning will bail to the new, trendy team. Fans of the team will be fans of the team.

 

[Coolade]

Well if you look at the data in the poll.. 30% of pats fans blame Belichick for Brady leaving. That is a significant number of people who could be Brady fans going thru withdrawal symptoms.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

I think things will stay the same interest wise, we won't be AS succhessful and won't be a shoe in for the playoffs every year but as long as BB is around the team will be moderately successful enough like the Packers / Ravens / Steelers / Chiefs of recent years for example where they enter each season with at least playoff hopes. People won't abandon ship at least until a few really dismal seasons in a row and I don't think that comes until after BB is gone whenever that is.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Then why did Matt Cassel and Jimmy G have success in it?

Idk Idk Idk

 

[Triumph]

Usenet was the bomb. Bob Jensen's name brings back great memories. Probably the biggest numbnuts ever to inhabit a sports forum and that's no small feat.

Remember PatsPanel?

Bucarino
Roberto Duran
Soothsayer

 

[Deus Irae]

So, it will be chaos in 2020. Are we entering the Patriots equivalent of the Joe Kapp era in Minnesota?

Just to follow up on this, Brady being the system shouldn't be a surprise. What is the thing people like to call BB's system?

 

[goheels22002]

Just to follow up on this, Brady being the system shouldn't be a surprise. What is the thing people like to call BB's system?

There is no system. The Patriots prepare for whatever opponent they face each week.

There are some exceptions, but if I were to define BB's system, it's a) hire an offensive coordinator and let him do his job, b) attack weaknesses and take away strengths, c) maintain cap discipline within position groups, d) find very smart guys to be coaching assistants and develop them, e) ignore the noise, and f) let veterans leave a year early and not a year late.

We find out whether letting Brady move along was a year early this season. I am pessimistic that he'll have a top five career year with Tampa Bay.

 

[Deus Irae]

There is no system. The Patriots prepare for whatever opponent they face each week.

There are some exceptions, but if I were to define BB's system, it's a) hire an offensive coordinator and let him do his job, b) attack weaknesses and take away strengths, c) maintain cap discipline within position groups, d) find very smart guys to be coaching assistants and develop them, e) ignore the noise, and f) let veterans leave a year early and not a year late.

We find out whether letting Brady move along was a year early this season. I am pessimistic that he'll have a top five career year with Tampa Bay.

Of course there's a system. I don't know why we have to go through this every year.


System:

: an organized set of doctrines, ideas, or principles usually intended to explain the arrangement or working of a systematic whole

Definition of SYSTEM


System:

A set of principles or procedures according to which something is done; an organized scheme or method.

System | Meaning of System by Lexico


Focus on football.
Work hard.
Do your job.
Be accountable, regardless of stature.

How many times did we have to hear about how Brady taking less, or Brady allowing BB to abuse him the same way as he abused every other player, was a big part of why things worked in New England?

We heard it because Brady not buying in would have been the end of the dynasty. And that's because he is/was the system.