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16. China no new cases. Do we believe this? Trump: much better if we knew months earlier. I hope its true on no new cases.
 
They've had a much longer time to deal with it. They've known about since December and kept it a secret. But I am glad you are pulling for China in this one.

It's pretty absurd to conclude that Venecol is "pulling for China".
 
17. Repercussions for China? No comment from Trump
 
A lot of the new data is sensible and positive. Lower rates in Korea and China. This means a projected end to this. IMO. Also the data in that princess Cruise article. 83 % of people on ship didn't get it despite ideal conditions for spread. Plus half who tested positive had no symptoms.

Soon people need to stop freaking out about this. It's a nasty virus for some..

question. Who hasn't had a nasty virus? Cough cough... Swollen throat? I once went to doctor because I couldn't swallow. It went away. If I was 80 maybe it would have killed me. Woweee.. now we shut down the world. Brilliant.

Senator Johnson said that 3.5 million Americans could die (then brushed it off).

3.5 million.

The only way to mitigate that now is to isolate everyone, because we couldn't be bothered to test the hotspots as they appeared.
 
18. Job loss?? Trump wants to get this wrapped up fast. Economy will recover quickly.
 
Time to change tune and deflect.


Really cool news source, I bet they did some hard research and were sure to pull clips from only after the WHO gave the disease an official name.SNIP

Using the globally accepted term is only partisan because surprisingly, one side keeps calling it the old name to ‘stick it to the ChiComs’. Brilliant, you’ve managed to enlighten everyone around you in the process.


Is it possible to use a given term and then realize after the fact that it wasn't appropriate? Happens all the time.

I don't mean to pretend that all media entities/members are saints, obviously they are not, and there is rampant incompetence and corruption in the media, much like any profession or institution. But it's not incompatible to at one point use a given term and later decide that isn't an appropriate thing to say.

And that's not touching on the fact that the situation *now* is very different than it was 2-3 months ago. Using "Chinese" or "Wuhan" 3 months ago would've made more sense, because at that time the virus was largely isolated (geographically) to China, so there is value in that language. Now the virus is geographically everywhere, so the value in using that term to describe the virus from a geographic standpoint isn't there anymore (other than to describe its origin). Situations change.

I don't understand why people changing their behavior or evolving is considered a negative in every instance.

I'm sure a lot of media members used that term initially, were told it wasn't a great look, and changed their behavior. No one would have an issue with the president or other politicians if they did the same.

If Trump said the following I would be appeased:

"In the past I have used the term "Chinese" to describe the Corona virus. While COVID did originate in China, the virus now exists across the world. Although it was not my intent, I can understand how specifically describing it as a "Chinese" virus could create racial animus among certain people. Moving forward I will refer to the virus as "COVID" or "Corona". With that said, the Chinese government acted in corrupt and malicious ways at various stages of this pandemic, and my administration will be addressing their wrongdoing at an appropriate time".

Spanish Flu
West Nile Virus
Ebola Virus
Zika Virus
South Asia Respiratory Syndrome
Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome
ETC
ETC

These were all names by their source of origin or the first place hit hardest, and no one gave a crap until now, after being gaslit by the hypocritical media. China lied for months when the world could have contained this. They chose to let the rest of the world get infected. It has NOTHING to do with race. Not to mention, woke idiots loooove to use East Asians as Schrödinger's people of color... Discriminating Asians for college enrollments is totally acceptable, but naming a virus from it origin point like other virus'? WASCIST. Give me a break.

And, let's be honest, there's nothing Trump can do to appease anyone that hates him.
 
It's pretty absurd to conclude that Venecol is "pulling for China".

Pretty clear he and others are pulling for China over Trump. The fact people are citing statistics about how effective China is compared to the US is ridiculous considering they started the whole thing.
 
19. Trump: its one of those things, its Congress, on 2 congressmen testing positive. Lol
 
For those who didn't read the article, Vox claimed that "Chinese virus" was a racist term to use; they never claimed "coronavirus" was racist to say at any point in the article.

The bit about "coronavirus" quoted by the tweeter was an account of the various terms used by the administration.

While I can understand where he is coming from, it's a somewhat uncritical take IMHO.

Imagine thinking Vox as a credible.
 
20. Helping airline, cruise ship, hotel industries.
 
21. Considering executive action on checks? Maybe
 
22. How long should businessess expect things to remain the way they are now. Trump, we'll let you know.
 
Talking about cancelling Olympics. Trump, its their call (Japan) not made a decision.

Saudi flood of oil, have you talked to them about it? Trump says consumer is being helped but hurts industry. Spoke with many ppl, trying to find middle ground.
 
Carnival cruise ships used for medical purposes ,(beds)
 
Amazing how people still refuse to read a dictionary to see what “racism” means.

Calling the virus “Chinese virus” is calling it what it is. I’m glad Trump is holding them accountable for this nightmare.

This is an example of racism, “only Chinese people would have this virus”.

Or “stay away from Chinese people, they carry diseases”.
 
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How much can we actually trust China when they say no new reported cases
 
OAN with the bounce pass to Trump for the layup.

Regards,
Chris
 
How much can we actually trust China when they say no new reported cases
You can't but I hope they are being truthful, or even sort of truthful that cases are falling dramatically.
 
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