Coronavirus RESPECTFUL Discussion Only! (Mod edit: Closed)

[venecol]

Some are still forgetting to stick to coronavirus ...
This is why political discussions are near impossible here.
They go off topic in a flash ...........

Discussing legislation centered around the virus is political but still central to coronavirus, no?

 

[TheRainMaker]

It’s a good time to be s single man right now. Don’t have to buy a bunch of s*** for other people.

I was up at 5am to go to the grocery store because all I really needed was some f***ing toilet paper and to beat those hoarding a**holes before it’s all gone.

I park my car and notice a bunch of morons lining up with carts at one entrance. Do they not realize there’s two entrances? I simply go the other entrance as a few others followed me and the employees opened both doors to let us in. Perfect example of herd mentality we’re currently witnessing.

Everyone goes to the TP section and as people are blocked off the isle with their carts, I maneuver right around them with my bag and grab what’s there. Lots of people pissed off at others with their carts.

I pass by the canned food section and a guy is using his arm to swipe all the cans he could in his basket.

And what is with buying gallon water bottles? Are people not paying their water bills? Does nobody use Brita water filters anymore?

I get you want to make less trips to the store, but please stop buying s*** likes it’s never going to return.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

It’s a good time to be s single man right now. Don’t have to buy a bunch of s*** for other people.

I was up at 5am to go to the grocery store because all I really needed was some f***ing toilet paper and to beat the hoarding a**holes before it’s all gone.

I park my car and notice a bunch of morons lining up with carts at one entrance. Do they realize there’s two entrances? I simply go the other entrance as a few others followed me and the employees opened both doors to let us in. Perfect example of herd mentality we’re currently witnessing.

Everyone goes to the TP section and as people are blocked off the isle with their carts, I maneuver right around them with my bag and grab what’s there. Lots of people pissed off at others with their carts.

I pass by the canned food section and a guy is using his arm to swipe all the cans he could in his basket.

And what is with buying gallon water bottles? Are people not paying their water bills? Does nobody use Brita water filters anymore?

I get you want to make less trips to the store, but please stop buying s*** likes it’s never going to return.

These are the idiots that are “left behind” by capitalism.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Discussing legislation centered around the virus is political but still central to coronavirus, no?

Of course ...
Mighty interesting also as it exposes all the corruption and lobbying behind these people.
I mean can you craft a coronavirus bill for the people without pork which is stealing from the issue.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

. Trump needs this bill to pass bad to wipe clean his initial response.

Not everyone sees it this way. His poll numbers over the past few days have been basically the same.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Not everyone sees it this way. His poll numbers over the past few days have been basically the same.

Wouldn't it be nice if they could craft a bill without worrying about poll numbers?
Now on the one had they are supposed to represent their districts and do best for them.
On the other hand sometimes it would be nice for them to do what's best for most of the country.

 

[50-yard-line]

Yep and there most likely was a lot more crap and pork-barrell BS than that in the bill.

When another poster said there was abortion funding in the bill, then didn't answer my call for details, I went an looked it up.

The Bill and its Summary are up for review, in full. I read the summary, quickly read the bill. It's straightforward and to the point. No pork that I could finid and certainly nothing about "abortion funding."

Just Google: "Families First House.gov" and you'll find it - hard to link because every place goes straight to PDF.

 

[Tony2046]

I just never understand why people hoard asswipe during snow storms and crisis.
Like do you sh!t more during these periods.
Not for nothing but if you did run out in a crisis there is a thing called a shower.

I just figured somebody knows something and I'm not getting left out.

 

[RobertWeathers]

.
Who will rise above all that and attempt to unite the country? Who will have a calming effect on everyone?

 

[RobertWeathers]

I could live on butternut squash ... and now you did it!!!

You know what ... I am hungry and I have a frozen one in my freezer.
So I'll be back in a bit ... throwing it in the microwave and eating it ... yum.

Kids are home from school for 3 weeks.

No business travel

There will be blood.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Kids are home from school for 3 weeks.

No business travel

There will be blood.

I remember those days well ...
Through it all I would love to do it again ... loved raising the kids.

 

[RobertWeathers]

When another poster said there was abortion funding in the bill, then didn't answer my call for details, I went an looked it up.

The Bill and its Summary are up for review, in full. I read the summary, quickly read the bill. It's straightforward and to the point. No pork that I could finid and certainly nothing about "abortion funding."

Just Google: "Families First House.gov" and you'll find it - hard to link because every place goes straight to PDF.

The WH claims she wanted to put some Hyde Amendment override language in there. Looks like it was struck from the bill.

Shes elite at parliamentary politics. I'll give her that.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I remember those days well ...
Through it all I would love to do it again ... loved raising the kids.

It'll be fine. Everyone has their own rooms. As long they pick up their clothes and dishes we'll be fine.

 

[fnordcircle]

The WH claims she wanted to put some Hyde Amendment override language in there. Looks like it was struck from the bill.

Shes elite at parliamentary politics. I'll give her that.

Ok but if it was for the purpose of getting places like Planned Parenthood federal funds specifically for coronavirus testing/treatment then how is that politicking at its finest?

Unless you're one of the nutjobs who thinks PP has a burger stand out back where they sell premium fetus meat.

 

[50-yard-line]

The WH claims she wanted to put some Hyde Amendment override language in there. Looks like it was struck from the bill.

Shes elite at parliamentary politics. I'll give her that.

The bill to which I referred is the one the Democrats passed BEFORE the Mnuchin negotiations began.

There's nothing in there that I can find regarding any of that. The White House claims a lot of things.

Only thing I can think of is that the GOP wanted to put some restrictions on the direct payments to those needing reimbursement.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Of course ...
Mighty interesting also as it exposes all the corruption and lobbying behind these people.
I mean can you craft a coronavirus bill for the people without pork which is stealing from the issue.

The infomercial/State Of Emergency combo pack struck me as super good for labquest and cvs, et al. He temporarily got back 2k of the 7k the DOW has lost, and he has been bragging all day that on Friday he manipulated traders to buy more than evah!

But there have been (once again) "creative liberties" taken with the truth. Google does not have 1700 engineers working on a Website right about ready to go live for everybody... they have a subsidiary with nowhere near 1700 anythings working on it, not going live except for the SF Bay area, and in beta not production. It was intended for medical personnel and was presented as being for the general public. Who knows what they're trying to spin into what (and everybody, traders included, have gotten wise to the spin cycle.)

So you have a creative writing exercise followed by an infomercial Friday, scheduled to end when the market closes. Nobody has the chance to get out of their newfound optimism before the fact check downgrades the bets they made. I'll be interested to see the effects on Monday morning. (No futures over the weekend -- get ready for lots of Friday afternoon pressers, until even supporters are wise to the trick.)

I will say that this morning, the administration (not POTUS himself, but I'll take it,) was spreading "credit" w/Pelosi, who wrote the House relief bill. To their credit, the exec. branch got on board. House pubbies not so much, who knows what rubbish will happen in the Senate.

But you guys understand what the market is seeing/reacting to here? First you have the chosen ones who get their beak wet (just the infomercial qualifies, but I am sure there are more tendrils than that involved.) Then you have the secular return of bailouts to the tune of trillions.

I'm not going to render an opinion on it, other than if you're going to have bailouts, have super-honest bailouts, where the money is really going to fixing an emergency. I am not confident that this is the course being followed.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Ok but if it was for the purpose of getting places like Planned Parenthood federal funds specifically for coronavirus testing/treatment then how is that politicking at its finest?

Unless you're one of the nutjobs who thinks PP has a burger stand out back where they sell premium fetus meat.

All I did was point out it was being negotiated.

PP does not offer coronavirus testing.

Lets leave it alone, OK?

 

[Deus Irae]

The bill to which I referred is the one the Democrats passed BEFORE the Mnuchin negotiations began.

There's nothing in there that I can find regarding any of that. The White House claims a lot of things.

Only thing I can think of is that the GOP wanted to put some restrictions on the direct payments to those needing reimbursement.

Informational purposes only:

EXCLUSIVE: White House Officials Allege Speaker Pelosi Pushed To Include Hyde Amendment Loophole Into Coronavirus Stimulus Plan

 

[RobertWeathers]

The bill to which I referred is the one the Democrats passed BEFORE the Mnuchin negotiations began.

There's nothing in there that I can find regarding any of that. The White House claims a lot of things.

Only thing I can think of is that the GOP wanted to put some restrictions on the direct payments to those needing reimbursement.

Ah ok. I was referring to the one the House passed last night.

 

[50-yard-line]

Ok but if it was for the purpose of getting places like Planned Parenthood federal funds specifically for coronavirus testing/treatment then how is that politicking at its finest?

Unless you're one of the nutjobs who thinks PP has a burger stand out back where they sell premium fetus meat.

Planned Parenthood isn't mentioned in the Bill. Nothing like it is mentioned in the bill.