Antonio Brown

[festy1986]

This going off the rails quick.

See ya tomorrow

 

[Triumph]

*****es and Hoes.

Crackers

AB bringing the hood to the 02071 Yo.

 

[Todd Bradley]

Dead serious: if you’re famous, you better be recording every time you have sex.

Every. Single. Time.

 

[slash83]

The patriots had to have know about this potentially coming out right?

 

[QuantumMechanic]

I have little doubt that what happened is that she (through her lawyer) basically said "give me money or I'm going to file this lawsuit, which could damage your career." Hence his accusation of civil extortion.

He obviously refused so she filed the lawsuit. At this point - and with nothing to lose - she probably hoping he will pay to make it go away.

A question for @MassPats38 — what is the line between demanding a settlement and extortion. Because really “pay me $X or I will sue you” doesn’t sound all that different to me from asking for money to settle a disagreement before taking it to court.

 

[Bourne Again Christian]

Ok

Dead serious: if you’re famous, you better be recording every time you have sex.

Every. Single. Time.

Like that soccer player Ronaldo.

 

[LJRomanoff]

Dead serious: if you’re famous, you better be recording every time you have sex.

Every. Single. Time.

That seems like ... a bad idea.

 

[Ring 6]

What do you want me to say. In this league, you tolerate more ******** for the players that make the most difference. It's not about fair, it's about reality. We don't need AB, he has not played a down for this team, we won a Super Bowl last year, two years before that, and two years before that, he is not needed.

The risk of him being not guilty and losing the potential of him simply doesn not outweigh the risk of sticking with him through a circus with the potential that he is guilty and we deal with a world of ****.

What is the risk? Have you ever followed this team? They will just not answer the questions. What do you think exactly will happen? They won’t be able to focus on football because they have to say I won’t answer that question? Exactly who do you expect to ask them that question every day until they just can’t stand it?
Should they have cut Edelman because he used PEDs ( he was guilty) and all the questions would be a distraction? Should the cut Chung? He has been arraigned.

When do you expect that this money grab will actually go to trial, and how long it will take before he is “found guilty” for something he has not been proven guilty of?

There are a lot of soldiers out there thankful
You were never in their foxhole.
Oh my god people might ask questions. Whatever will we do? We can’t play football if people ask questions.
Get some sleep mrs clever. The patriots are just fine.

 

[Todd Bradley]

The patriots had to have know about this potentially coming out right?

I honestly don’t think so.

Because why trade Thomas today if you knew this shoe was about to drop?

 

[Bruins29]

I cant believe that anyone with half a brain thinks that it is normal for someone who is sexually assaulted/raped whatever, to continue to go back to the house of the person who supposedly assaulted/raped them.

 

[JPsPats]

Schefter on sports center said Goodell could put Brown on the commissioner exempt list, which means he would sit out with pay while the investigation takes place.

Similar to the Adrian Peterson situation when he was being investigated for child abuse.

 

[Todd Bradley]

That seems like ... a bad idea.

I don’t know, this seems worse.

 

[LJRomanoff]

I honestly don’t think so.

Because why trade Thomas today if you knew this shoe was about to drop?

Because Thomas wasn't going to get any snaps anyway.

 

[Ring 6]

Falsely calling a public figure a rapist is gonna meet the “actual malice” standard, which says that if a public figure sues for defamation he has to prove by a preponderance of the evidence (“50% plus a feather”) that the utterer spoke “with knowledge that it was false or with reckless disregard of whether it was false or not.”

A false claim of rape (if it really is false) directly by the accuser will easily meet that bar. This isn’t like some news media person hearing about it from a source that in their experience is generally trustworthy but wasn’t this time, publishing “a source close to the team said XXX was known to be abusing women” and getting sued.

Suing somebody for something any losing is not defamation of character.

 

[Triumph]

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Because the Rape and Sexual assault accusations are in a civil lawsuit Antonio Brown remains eligible to play.

 

[catent]

Every. Single. Jagoff moron in this thread even suggesting we should "believe" an accusation of rape should have someone pin a false rape accusation on them. I'm sure they'd then clamor for the presumption of innocence.

What the hell am even I reading here? There is no reason to believe something for which evidence will suffice. Do you have evidence? OK, then I will take your claim seriously. If you cannot prove what you are saying, I'm not going to *believe* you. I'm not going to disbelieve you either, but to suggest that we should back an accuser until the one being accused can prove their innocence is one of the WORST ideas I have ever heard, and I've worked in retail before.

First of all, money is involved. No amount of money can cure trauma. You don't file a goddamn civil suit for rape, you file a criminal one, because rape is a CRIME, not an inconvenience. The fact that this person wants money should be a huge red flag, and I'm inclined to not believe someone that is seeking money instead of actual justice.

Judging from his conversation on IG and then reading the emails, I can conclude 2 things:

1. Brown is illiterate.
2. Brown is innocent (and should be presumed innocent, until proven guilty).

The relationship appears consensual, and the woman looks as if she is scorned and looking for payback here. Brown has evidence that the relationship was consensual, and potential 3rd party evidence to that end, showing that the accuser is attempting to extort him. Until the accuser can provide evidence that this wasn't consensual, I'm sorry, this is ********.

I agree with some of your points but the notion that money is not ever a reasonable means to seek justice in some cases of sexual assault, or criminal wrongdoing generally, is untrue in my opinion.

All of the following I’m about to say assumes that the person in question is actually a victim:

Money can help one relocate, get medical/psychological treatment, and allow one to generally pick themselves back up after being the victim of a crime. We all know how stressful not having money is, it’s cripplingly stressful to have to worry about rent, bills, etc. Removing the money stressor from the equation of someone trying to recover from trauma can only helps

It may be cynical but the fact is that money, at a practical/realistic level, is essential to functioning in society at a minimum/basic level, and I think we owe legitimate victims of trauma (sexual assault otherwise) at least that much.

 

[patfanken]

In spirit, I agree with you Ken but down here in Australia, we've had a run of false accusations against famous men, almost all juries found in favour of the accused. That didn't stop the media from raking them across coals and ruining their public standing. It pisses me off because it legitimately makes it so much harder for real victims to come forward and be taken seriously. That's what aggravates me the most about the sideshow of widespread accusations.

Now we get to the crux of the problem. There was a time when journalism required facts, fairness, and real sources. But who am I kidding. The Hearst papers of the turn of the 2oth century led us into a war with little or none of those 3 things, so this isn't really new, is it. We are just better at decimating the story these days.

Unfortunately it's easy to bash the news media, but without it there would be NO one hold our national, state and local governments and businesses to task. So there is good and bad in every area of a democratic state. That's one of the reasons fascism in growing. People are getting tired of having to have figure it out for themselves and just want someone to tell them what is and isn't.

But I forget, you're in Australia. Tell me there is hope down there? And sorry about droning on. Stepping off the soap box now, and falling back into the morass that is the current AB mess.

 

[TommyD4207]

I honestly don’t think so.

Because why trade Thomas today if you knew this shoe was about to drop?

Because you don't need Thomas, and Brown will be at practice tomorrow, and play Sunday.

 

[LJRomanoff]

Schefter on sports center said Goodell could put Brown on the commissioner exempt list, which means he would sit out with pay while the investigation takes place.

Similar to the Adrian Peterson situation when he was being investigated for child abuse.

Peterson was indicted for a crime before he was put on the commissioner's list. Hardly the same. If Shady avoided the list, there's no reason for Brown to be on it either.

 

[sambam94]

I cant believe that anyone with half a brain thinks that it is normal for someone who is sexually assaulted/raped whatever, to continue to go back to the house of the person who supposedly assaulted/raped them.

she says in the complaint she went back to his house to get some belongings...the very next day after she was violently raped...crazy