Antonio Brown

[BadMoFo]

Keep him on the team and by the time the case gets to trial, he'll be a non-Patriot.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

Statements made in court - or in court filings - are considered privileged and, as such, not eligible to be made the basis of a defamation lawsuit.

So if she goes to the media and says AB kicks puppies, he can sue her for defamation. But if she makes the exact same statement under oath (or in a maneuver/communication related to a court filing), that statement is protected against a defamation lawsuit.

True. But if she told friends, sent them text messages, etc. calling him a rapist that is actionable. But if she clammed up until she filed the suit, you are totally right.

As for the threatened countersuit, I wonder what evidence he has that she tried to extort him. Also, I believe that even if he really did what she claims, he could still win an extortion case.

 

[Patsgofor4]

 

[Pats2000]

Was asking my gf this as she works in criminal intelligence.

Why in the flying **** do law enforcement groups, from local PD to FBI and CIA all use a polygraph in their screening process, when they've been thoroughly discounted and aren't even admissable in a court?

I just don't get it. There has to be something I'm missing.

It's an industry in itself that has a strong legacy and pull in the community. So it became part of the intuition, it's hard to remove things within an institution. How mant government agencies have been closed in the last 50 years?

 

[letekro]

Was asking my gf this as she works in criminal intelligence.

Why in the flying **** do law enforcement groups, from local PD to FBI and CIA all use a polygraph in their screening process, when they've been thoroughly discounted and aren't even admissable in a court?

I just don't get it. There has to be something I'm missing.

It’s not sufficiently accurate to be admissible in court, but it is a data point that law enforcement can and will consider in the course of its investigation.

 

[makoute]

I think he is about to be released

 

[Deus Irae]

I see your confusion. I was saying to take the accusation seriously by considering that the alleged victim is telling the truth and proceeding woth fact finding.

I'm not confused. You made a claim. People called you on it, time and again. Instead of double checking your post, or apologizing, or anything like that, you kept doubling down. Even when I specifically suggested that you go back and re-read your posts, you refused to do so, and kept on with your line of argument.

You are either a liar, or you are someone who refused to be sure of his own claims on this very sensitive issue, seemingly because of idiotic political positioning. Either way, you're not worth engaging in further discussion. So we're done here.

 

[Hyped]

Fellas, I just got a warning by the Mod for bringing politics into this thread.

Gonna STFU now and keep the focus on AB.

Sorry.

 

[Th3Birdman]

Every. Single. Jagoff moron in this thread even suggesting we should "believe" an accusation of rape should have someone pin a false rape accusation on them. I'm sure they'd then clamor for the presumption of innocence.

What the hell am even I reading here? There is no reason to believe something for which evidence will suffice. Do you have evidence? OK, then I will take your claim seriously. If you cannot prove what you are saying, I'm not going to *believe* you. I'm not going to disbelieve you either, but to suggest that we should back an accuser until the one being accused can prove their innocence is one of the WORST ideas I have ever heard, and I've worked in retail before.

First of all, money is involved. No amount of money can cure trauma. You don't file a goddamn civil suit for rape, you file a criminal one, because rape is a CRIME, not an inconvenience. The fact that this person wants money should be a huge red flag, and I'm inclined to not believe someone that is seeking money instead of actual justice.

Judging from his conversation on IG and then reading the emails, I can conclude 2 things:

1. Brown is illiterate.
2. Brown is innocent (and should be presumed innocent, until proven guilty).

The relationship appears consensual, and the woman looks as if she is scorned and looking for payback here. Brown has evidence that the relationship was consensual, and potential 3rd party evidence to that end, showing that the accuser is attempting to extort him. Until the accuser can provide evidence that this wasn't consensual, I'm sorry, this is ********.

 

[Triumph]

I am a woman so I can say this. I don't believe her. What took her so long to come forward?
And she wants money. If a man does these things to me, he needs to go to jail. And I am not going back 3 times.

Whoever disliked my opinion, I don't like you either and I will not be bullied into having the same opinion as everyone else. I just won't. Lots of internet bullies in the world. I have been through a lot and seen a lot in this life. I have learned not to believe everything people say.

You will do fine in life.

Think for yourself and never appease the mob.

 

[Jackson 2]

The three players accused were declared innocent of any wrong doing. What are you even talking about? Sounds like you haven’t read much about that case.

Oh, I've read it all and here's why: my neighbor and friend's son was one of the players at the "party.". So, I've been told first-hand what happened. They're was no sexual assault, but what went on was far worse than " telling crude jokes " and it wasn't " nothing at all."

 

[TN patriot fan]

Should AB suit up against Miami? I think from a PR perspective AB should be benched for a few weeks at least. Idk who's lying but either way, this ain't going to end well.

I think Belichick would perhaps give this idea a half-chuckle

I'm not taking either side in this current case, but I wouldn't have used the Duke lacrosse case as my evidentiary example. While it's true the players weren't guilty of rape, their other behavior in that incident was despicable and disgusting, and I'm the furthest thing from a prude. Their actions were far more egregious than "nothing at all "

This is scarily bad thinking. By this logic, everyone who ever did anything the slightest bit unseemly, no matter whether it was perfectly legal, should be prosecuted and have their lives ruined, completely apart from whether they did what they were accused of.

I'm glad you're not emperor because a perfect person like you would be rough on the rest of us.

 

[Kdo5]

Oh, I've read it all and here's why: my neighbor and friend's son was one of the players at the "party.". So, I've been told first-hand what happened. They're was no sexual assault, but what went on was far worse than " telling crude jokes " and it wasn't " nothing at all."

OH so you heard it from your neighbor though his son! Wow we should believe you over the well documented evidence of the case. Put down the bottle and go to sleep. You are making a fool of yourself.

 

[Todd Bradley]

And Bill thought he was going to get a good nights sleep tonight...

Tomorrow’s press conference should be an all timer.

 

[XLIX]

I have little doubt that what happened is that she (through her lawyer) basically said "give me money or I'm going to file this lawsuit, which could damage your career." Hence his accusation of civil extortion.

He obviously refused so she filed the lawsuit. At this point - and with nothing to lose - she probably hoping he will pay to make it go away.

 

[Gronk]

I thought this guy was nuts 3 days ago, I talked myself into it making sense in 3 hours, and I already have buyers remorse. I hope he’s cleared...not because I want the Pats to win but because I hope he’s not total garbage. But if there’s anything to it I’d rather lose without him than win with him, and I’m expecting in 3 more days I’ll wish they’d just kept DT and stayed away from this melodrama. I don’t want to jump to conclusions, I don’t want to convict him based on today’s media releases, but this is a mess already, and it’s not the kind of mess I’m accustomed to this team accepting. To use BB’s analogy against him, this is now NOT like Moss at all. Unless they are 100% sure and can resolve this before Sunday they should kick this nut job to the curb and find another way.

 

[LJRomanoff]

This is scarily bad thinking. By this logic, everyone who ever did anything the slightest bit unseemly, no matter whether it was perfectly legal, should be prosecuted and have their lives ruined, completely apart from whether they did what they were accused of.

There is a group of people who regularly post here who were also convinced that Kraft will be/should be punished by the league and/or be forced to sell or cede control of the team. It seems the first instinct of some people is to admit guilt and accept punishment before there's evidence anything happened.

 

[XLIX]

Oh, I've read it all and here's why: my neighbor and friend's son was one of the players at the "party.". So, I've been told first-hand what happened. They're was no sexual assault, but what went on was far worse than " telling crude jokes " and it wasn't " nothing at all."

ohhhhhhhhhhhh…. well if you can't believe an anonymous internet user's neighbor's son, who can you believe? LOL!!!!

Like you said, thanks for giving me such a great laugh as I head to bed.

 

[IcyPatriot]

I’d be curious who else (if anyone) also got a warning.

If your posts were considered too political, surely many other poster’s posts would also be considered too political.

Bringing political figures into a thread makes the statements political ... it's not that difficult.
The thread is about Brown ... let it stay there.

 

[MassPats38]

Was asking my gf this as she works in criminal intelligence.

Why in the flying **** do law enforcement groups, from local PD to FBI and CIA all use a polygraph in their screening process, when they've been thoroughly discounted and aren't even admissable in a court?

I just don't get it. There has to be something I'm missing.

In criminal case, polygraphs are tools used to obtain confessions. For example, the device itself inspires fear so an examiner may ask a series of background questions before the test commences in order to establish a baseline that are tantamount to criminal confessions. Also, the "deception indicated" information results in follow on questions that again result in confessions from those who don't understand they can tell the examiner to get lost as the device is reading wrong.

In administrative/civil procedures, polygraphs can be used to initiate adverse actions. Polygraph results are 60% to 80% accurate, so are of some value. Law enforcement agencies also tend to argue the results are more accurate than the opponents claim they are.

The polygraph results may be admissible in some jurisdictions under certain circumstances.