How do you honestly feel about our chance at a repeat?

[SBLIII]

Philly is stacked everywhere except LB and secondary. On defense, their D line is everything. They have 6-7 guys who can get after the QB. On offense, the addition of Jordan Howard and Desean Jackson will be huge.

you can't absorb a bad secondary.
2018 Patriots good secondary
2017 Eagles good secondary
2016 Pats good secondary
2015 Broncos good secondary
2014 Patriots good secondary
2013 Seahawks good secondary

DL won't get pressure every snap. When they don't quick 70 yard strike from the opposing QB because their CBs can't cover anybody

 

[RobertWeathers]

Philly is stacked everywhere except LB and secondary. On defense, their D line is everything. They have 6-7 guys who can get after the QB. On offense, the addition of Jordan Howard and Desean Jackson will be huge.

re: LB and secondary- exact opposite of us.

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

Yea nothing scary there.

They will go as far as their D-line will take them.

And if Wentz can stay healthy.. Nick Foles is not, as they say" walking through that door."

 

[RobertWeathers]

And if Wentz can stay healthy.. Nick Foles is not, as they say" walking through that door."

Wentz has yet to start a single playoff game.

Still plenty-o-questions with regard to what he has what it takes to win in the postseason.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Wentz has yet to start a single playoff game.

Still plenty-o-questions with regard to what he has what it takes to win in the postseason.

If he plays anything like he did in 2017 (and reports are that he is on fire this offseason) then look out...i honestly think the Philly game will be the toughest on our schedule.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

you can't absorb a bad secondary.
2018 Patriots good secondary
2017 Eagles good secondary
2016 Pats good secondary
2015 Broncos good secondary
2014 Patriots good secondary
2013 Seahawks good secondary

DL won't get pressure every snap. When they don't quick 70 yard strike from the opposing QB because their CBs can't cover anybody

The 2007 Giants say hi

 

[RobertWeathers]

If he plays anything like he did in 2017 (and reports are that he is on fire this offseason) then look out...i honestly think the Philly game will be the toughest on our schedule.

No.

@Mia 9/15.

Automatic loss.

 

[SBLIII]

The 2007 Giants say hi

long time ago, game has changed towards QBs, miracle catch was needed and easy INT drop

 

[supafly]

Are we talking about winning the SB again?

Even if they get another bye as a #1 or #2 seed, the odds would only be 25 percent—maybe slightly higher depending on who the other seed is, and who the NFC puts up.

As it stands now without looking, I’d have to guess that the odds would show something around a 15 percent chance. No higher than 20 percent.

 

[TheRainMaker]

2017 Eagles good secondary

Their secondary wasn’t that good. And I’m not just referring to them getting shredded in the Super Bowl.

long time ago, game has changed towards QBs, miracle catch was needed and easy INT drop

The Pats only mustered 1 turnover out of a possible 4 in the first half alone. 2 out of 4 were in Giants territory I think. The efforts of the Giants D line would’ve been irrelevant had the Pats capitalized on those. The most frustrating game to watch in Pats history.

 

[Chevy]

Got the plan ...

 

[Ivan]

Are we talking about winning the SB again?

Even if they get another bye as a #1 or #2 seed, the odds would only be 25 percent—maybe slightly higher depending on who the other seed is, and who the NFC puts up.

As it stands now without looking, I’d have to guess that the odds would show something around a 15 percent chance. No higher than 20 percent.

I look at it differently. Get them into the tournament and the odds go way up. They aren’t playing every contender, just a 3 game run. And nobody does that better.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

long time ago, game has changed towards QBs, miracle catch was needed and easy INT drop

You must have missed that game. The Giants neutralized the greatest (up to that time) scoring offense in NFL history with a ferocious pass rush, limiting the Pats to 17 points. Does anyone remember who was in their secondary? I didn't think so. The point is teams can win with that formula. It doesn't happen very often, but it's possible. It's a team game at the end of the day. If one unit is average, another unit can pick up the slack. Almost every super bowl winning team has holes on their roster. For us last year it was probably WR. Yet we won because everyone else stepped up. And even if the miracle catch doesn't happen in SB 42, it doesn't erase the fact that the offense was horrible because of the Giants pass rush.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

No.

@Mia 9/15.

Automatic loss.

I don't count Miami as a difficult game. It's usually the Pats shooting themselves in the foot, like last year.

 

[meatface]

Other than KC and SD is there any team in the AFC that looks like a threat? So in that sense they have an easier road to the Super Bowl but repeating is hard.

 

[meatface]

I don't count Miami as a difficult game. It's usually the Pats shooting themselves in the foot, like last year.

but weird stuff happens in Miami

 

[aluminum seats]

There’s really people in here questioning if this current squad is a dynasty? Seriously?

3 in 5 years is a dynasty.

I don’t hear anyone debating the validity of the San Francisco Giants dynasty for doing the same exact thing a few years back.

The problem is that “dynasty” isn’t defined in these conversations, so everyone is just arguing past each other with whatever they think a dynasty is.

Personally, I think the word is WAY overused. No, I don’t think the baseball Giants were a dynasty, I think they were a team that had a few great years. I don’t think the Warriors were a dynasty, I think they were a team that had a great few years. I think the Patriots from 2001 (not just the past five years) are a dynasty, because to me a dynasty suggests greatness spanning across close to a generation. It’s not a great few years.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

The problem is that “dynasty” isn’t defined in these conversations, so everyone is just arguing past each other with whatever they think a dynasty is.

Personally, I think the word is WAY overused. No, I don’t think the baseball Giants were a dynasty, I think they were a team that had a few great years. I don’t think the Warriors were a dynasty, I think they were a team that had a great few years. I think the Patriots from 2001 (not just the past five years) are a dynasty, because to me a dynasty suggests greatness spanning across close to a generation. It’s not a great few years.

To be fair, with free agency and shot contracts, 4 years is pretty much a generation in football terms? Dynasties have to win championships but also have to be relevant.

The Bills going to 4 straight SBs is dynastic, but I'm not sure how they were after the 4th year. And, not winning one just makes it harder to place them up there, but it's a feat rarely accomplished.

 

[aluminum seats]

To be fair, with free agency and shot contracts, 4 years is pretty much a generation in football terms? Dynasties have to win championships but also have to be relevant.

The Bills going to 4 straight SBs is dynastic, but I'm not sure how they were after the 4th year. And, not winning one just makes it harder to place them up there, but it's a feat rarely accomplished.

Yeah, I think multiple championships are a given...I’d say 3 would be the minimum. But I think there has to be a time element too..to me, something that lasts 3-4 years isn’t a “dynasty.” But I’ll admit it’s subjective.

 

[aluminum seats]

To be fair, with free agency and shot contracts, 4 years is pretty much a generation in football terms? Dynasties have to win championships but also have to be relevant.

The Bills going to 4 straight SBs is dynastic, but I'm not sure how they were after the 4th year. And, not winning one just makes it harder to place them up there, but it's a feat rarely accomplished.

My favorite example of this was a few years ago when the Chargers were loaded...they had won NOTHING of course, but fans on their message board were discussing when they would become a dynasty.