Schefter: Martellus Bennett wants to return to NE

[BlueThunder]

This is kind of a ludicrous stat. The gap between the youngest and oldest is about a year and half.

Ken,
I believe the author said 2.18 years difference between youngest and oldest teams across their 53 man roster.....in the footnotes he added "If you took the 23 oldest Raiders and shaved 5 years off each of their ages, their roster still wouldn't be as young as the Bengals' roster."

If his math is correct ( I'm no math whiz) , 5 years younger for 23 of the team's players seems significant.....

I am fine with having an older/experienced team with enough youth getting the experience of learning from a veteran player. They are the future of the Patriots.

I noticed that the AFC East teams vary between 26 yrs ( Jets) to 26.8 yrs ( Pats)....

 

[ScottishPatriots]

Not sure Marty has anything left.

 

[Username]

Although I'm a big fan, he was far less effective here than people seem to remember. He was a pretty average TE, to be honest, let's not kid ourselves.

Now, after a year out of the game, with a draft full of quality at the TE position, considering the money he would expect, and considering how disciplined the locker room is, I'm not sure how enthused I am to see him back, just because his malcontent brother is here.

Two McCourtey's may be better than one, but two Bennett's might cause chaos.

 

[wizwor]

Best thread in a LONG TIME! Thanks for the smiles.

 

[Patsgofor4]

Although I'm a big fan, he was far less effective here than people seem to remember. He was a pretty average TE, to be honest, let's not kid ourselves.

Strongly disagree with this. The guy put up more than 100 yards in two out of his first four games with the Pats, then proceeded to have a three TD game versus Cleveland, Brady‘s first game back from suspension. He was showing elite speed and elusiveness for his position. He then unfortunately sprained his ankle during the Cleveland game and was never the same the rest of the season, but he gutted it out for the sake of the team.

He aggravated his ankle injury later in the season ( I remember watching him limping off the field and thinking to myself “he’s done“) but never missed a game. He didn’t put up big receiving numbers every game but some of those low target games were game plan specific, meaning he that he was used mainly for his blocking abilities at times. His pass and run blocking was excellent the entire season.

Even with the ankle injury and being lower down on the target chain than many tight ends, he put up to TE1 numbers. I’m not saying that he will be the same player after taking a year off but to call him “pretty average” during his one year with the patriots is kind of silly.

 

[DaBruinz]

Bring him in for a tryout and physical. IF he shows up in shape and impresses, give him a non-guaranteed contract with a ton of incentives. Otherwise, pass and bring in a rookie like Fant, Smith, etc..

 

[patfanken]

Not sure Marty has anything left.

Well assuming he DOES want to give it a go, he'd have a number of hoops he'd have to go through in order to get to the position where he would become a viable candidate to come out of retirement.

1, He'd have to under go a 30-60 day intensive work out program to start with. I doubt very much he's currently close to his playing weight and strength right now.

2. He'd have to do what would amount to a "pro day" workout for the Pats, who probably have a record of what Marty did the last time he worked out for them, and have those numbers to be reasonably close.

3. He'd have to convince Bill that he really wants to make the tough mental commitment to play a full season in the Pats arduous system, and this isn't just a lark.

If Bill was happy with the results of all that, THEN they could discuss a the role he'd play, which, like Gronk, would be designed to get them both to the playoffs in relative good health and condition.

 

[50-yard-line]

As long as he can still play, ill take him back in a heartbeat. We can still draft a tight end for the future.

Imagine a receiving core or Edelman, Gordon, Bennett, Gronk, White, Dola

Only if you let me pretend it's 2013.

 

[50-yard-line]

Ranking NFL teams by age after 53-man cutdowns: 2018 edition

Getting younger will happen when the Pats lose the following players to cuts or retirement and replace them with younger players or rookies..........When BB starts cutting long time starters will be the beginning of the " getting younger" movement.

Brady, Hoyer,McCourty (2) , Chung, Edelman, Gronkowski, Slater, Gostkowski, Allen, Hogan,McClellan, Humber....Those are the players that are older than the 26.8 yr average of Pats players on roster......Is there anyone I missed?

Flowers being replaced by Bennett doesn't improve the average age and replacing Hollister with his brother is another negative agewise.....

The biggest problem with these kinds of rankings is that age matters a lot more at some positions than at other.

35 year old Cornerback? Pass.
37 year old kicker? Sure.

Linebacker, Tight End...fall off a cliff.

IOL seem to do better.

 

[BlueThunder]

The biggest problem with these kinds of rankings is that age matters a lot more at some positions than at other.

35 year old Cornerback? Pass.
37 year old kicker? Sure.

Linebacker, Tight End...fall off a cliff.

IOL seem to do better.

Don't forget the WR position along with any 40+ year old QB

 

[SammyBlueCat]

Well assuming he DOES want to give it a go, he'd have a number of hoops he'd have to go through in order to get to the position where he would become a viable candidate to come out of retirement.

1, He'd have to under go a 30-60 day intensive work out program to start with. I doubt very much he's currently close to his playing weight and strength right now.

2. He'd have to do what would amount to a "pro day" workout for the Pats, who probably have a record of what Marty did the last time he worked out for them, and have those numbers to be reasonably close.

3. He'd have to convince Bill that he really wants to make the tough mental commitment to play a full season in the Pats arduous system, and this isn't just a lark.

If Bill was happy with the results of all that, THEN they could discuss a the role he'd play, which, like Gronk, would be designed to get them both to the playoffs in relative good health and condition.

This can all be arranged. I am on the job.

 

[Zuma]

What a Martellus contract might look like as similar situations...

Jason Witten’s base deal is only $2 million

When tight end Jason Witten first emerged from retirement to return to the Cowboys, his deal was characterized as being worth $5 million for one year. As expected, a lot of things will have to happen for him to make that much money.

Field Yates of ESPN.com recently reported that Witten will earn a base salary of only $2 million.

Witten also has two tiers of per-game roster bonuses: One tied to being on the game-day, 46-man roster and one tied to being on the 53-man roster. For the former, he gets $62,500 per game; for the latter, it’s $78,125 per game.

This protects the Cowboys against an injury that results in Witten landing on injured reserve — and against a decision to release Witten before the end of the season. Per the report, Witten also has $750,000 tied to receptions and to the team making the playoffs.

It all adds up to $5 million, but he’ll have to be on the game-day roster for every regular-season game, the Cowboys will have to make the playoffs, and he’ll have to hit the reception target to get the extra $3 million.

 

[Bledsoehasaring]

Although I'm a big fan, he was far less effective here than people seem to remember. He was a pretty average TE, to be honest, let's not kid ourselves.

What on earth are you talking about? He is a great blocking tight end and he put up nice numbers. 55 receptions 700yds and 7 tds. He might be over the hill but he was a really nice player the year he was here.

 

[Bobsyouruncle]

What on earth are you talking about? He is a great blocking tight end and he put up nice numbers. 55 receptions 700yds and 7 tds. He might be over the hill but he was a really nice player the year he was here.

Meh, about a dozen teams had a better TE. He was mostly invisible in the playoffs. He was open about just coming here for a big payday afterward. His production dropped sharply after leaving (and not having Brady throwing). It’s not a stretch to think that he’ll be more like the 30th or 40th best TE three years after he was last here.

HOF players struggle to come back, and Bennett’s career is more like “pretty good” level, not HOF, not even perennial probowler.

I expect he would have to fight to make the team if he returned.

 

[BTTA]

Well assuming he DOES want to give it a go, he'd have a number of hoops he'd have to go through in order to get to the position where he would become a viable candidate to come out of retirement.

1, He'd have to under go a 30-60 day intensive work out program to start with. I doubt very much he's currently close to his playing weight and strength right now.

2. He'd have to do what would amount to a "pro day" workout for the Pats, who probably have a record of what Marty did the last time he worked out for them, and have those numbers to be reasonably close.

3. He'd have to convince Bill that he really wants to make the tough mental commitment to play a full season in the Pats arduous system, and this isn't just a lark.

If Bill was happy with the results of all that, THEN they could discuss a the role he'd play, which, like Gronk, would be designed to get them both to the playoffs in relative good health and condition.

Given how well the team knows him, and he knows the offense, and that all of this is on spec anyway (he has to make the team), they might let him do your list in reverse order. He'd have four months to get back into playing shape. But before he, or the team, committed to that, everyone (including him) would have to be sure he was going to make a genuine effort of it.

 

[Bledsoehasaring]

Meh, about a dozen teams had a better TE. He was mostly invisible in the playoffs. He was open about just coming here for a big payday afterward. His production dropped sharply after leaving (and not having Brady throwing). It’s not a stretch to think that he’ll be more like the 30th or 40th best TE three years after he was last here.

HOF players struggle to come back, and Bennett’s career is more like “pretty good” level, not HOF, not even perennial probowler.

I expect he would have to fight to make the team if he returned.

Just to be clear, he came here to win a championship and then get paid. That’s what he said. Also he had Aaron Rodgers throwing to him. He likes the discipline and the people here. He is a smart dude and he only falls in line if there is a good reason. Aaron Rodgers runs this team is not a good reason to play through the injury he had. He tried with us.

 

[Zuma]

Happy Birthday Martellus ! (Born: March 10, 1987)

 

[GodBrady]

Meh, about a dozen teams had a better TE. He was mostly invisible in the playoffs. He was open about just coming here for a big payday afterward. His production dropped sharply after leaving (and not having Brady throwing). It’s not a stretch to think that he’ll be more like the 30th or 40th best TE three years after he was last here.

Hold up a second. Why are you comparing Bennett's numbers straight-up to other TE? 700 yards and 7 TD is pretty good production for a guy that wasn't even a TE1 the entire year; Gronk was banged up in 2016, but he still had 540 yards and 3 TD. If Gronk didn't play that whole year you have to figure that Bennett's numbers would be ~25% higher or so.

 

[GodBrady]

Well assuming he DOES want to give it a go, he'd have a number of hoops he'd have to go through in order to get to the position where he would become a viable candidate to come out of retirement.

1, He'd have to under go a 30-60 day intensive work out program to start with. I doubt very much he's currently close to his playing weight and strength right now.

2. He'd have to do what would amount to a "pro day" workout for the Pats, who probably have a record of what Marty did the last time he worked out for them, and have those numbers to be reasonably close.

3. He'd have to convince Bill that he really wants to make the tough mental commitment to play a full season in the Pats arduous system, and this isn't just a lark.

If Bill was happy with the results of all that, THEN they could discuss a the role he'd play, which, like Gronk, would be designed to get them both to the playoffs in relative good health and condition.

I agree, a lot of good points here. Normally I wouldn't think it's possible -- I'm sure it's tough jumping back into the rigors of the NFL after enjoying the simple life of retirement -- but if he and Michael dreamed of playing together, maybe he will be genuinely inspired to make it happen.

 

[fnordcircle]

Bring him in for a tryout and physical. IF he shows up in shape and impresses, give him a non-guaranteed contract with a ton of incentives. Otherwise, pass and bring in a rookie like Fant, Smith, etc..

Nah let's just judge him as done right now and then if he does manage to play and contribute meaningless snaps ignore everything we said and say we knew Bill was a genius all along!