Overlooking the Hot Hand

[Coolade2]

Being the genius you are you certainly realized that Green Bay made CP completely ineffective as a RB once they switched to Bear fronts (ie. made him run to the outside) Right ?

Yeah right.. CP can't run to the outside. he's so slow. OCs job is to stay on top of D adjustments and split cp out or motion him. Point is , you don't stop getting ball to this player!!
Obviously.. Based on 3 successful plays FAKING the ball to Patterson.. Miss that? ..yikes

In other words.. player that draws so much attention from defense, is now important part of the offense if not the central part. following..?

 

[Ochmed Jones]

It all starts with the o line. They had a terrible game which killed our running and passing game.

Very easy for the titans defense to dominate with our o line in shambles.

 

[Ring 6]

Yeah.. Follow if possible, a play that works you declare will not work for no reason.. That's dumb speculation. At least I'm basing it on execution the previous week. Second. Cp is explosive and aggressive. Michel has a girls name and runs like it after injury. Miss that also? Please continue.. This is fun

Thanks for making my point.

 

[patriot1136]

The O-line is just very disappointing. I know injuries are an issue, but still.

 

[condon84]

Matchups > hot hand. That being said, both the game plan and its execution were awful. White was getting schemed out of the game, and Patterson was never that hot to begin with.

If that were the case, they should have gone after Butler who is having a terrible year. Perplexed why we threw to Adoree so many times.

 

[captain stone]

Wait. You are telling me the WR who filled in at RB while the real RB was injured should have been playing RB when the real
RB was healthy again? For real?

CP should have the football in his hands more often than he did on Sunday. It's up to Skippy to figure out a way to accomplish that given the personnel at his disposal. Then once the threat of The Playmaker has been established, the offense can work off sweep- or toss-action and possibly catch the defense leaning in the wrong direction (for them).

It goes without saying, of course, that nothing happens without better blocking.

 

[Ring 6]

CP should have the football in his hands more often than he did on Sunday. It's up to Skippy to figure out a way to accomplish that given the personnel at his disposal. Then once the threat of The Playmaker has been established, the offense can work off sweep- or toss-action and possibly catch the defense leaning in the wrong direction (for them).

He is a bit piece.

 

[luuked]

Yeah right.. CP can't run to the outside. he's so slow. OCs job is to stay on top of D adjustments and split cp out or motion him. Point is , you don't stop getting ball to this player!!
Obviously.. Based on 3 successful plays FAKING the ball to Patterson.. Miss that? ..yikes

In other words.. player that draws so much attention from defense, is now important part of the offense if not the central part. following..?

CP is not a ****ing football player. He is an athlete. You need to manufacture plays for him as nobody is taking him serious because 50% of the time he trips over his own ****ing **** when he gets the ball.

He is plan C. Certainly not plan A which is Michel and also not plan B which would be the short passing game. But go on and whine about something so incredibly ridiculous as CP not getting the ball.

There are so many legitimate reasons to question some of the gameplan but you literally chose the worst one.

 

[MainePatsFan26]

why does this even have to be explained? The objective IS the playoffs...the NEXT objective is the bye. The NEXT objective is homefield after the bye. The NEXT objective is home field throughout the playoff format. We do NOT accomplish anything without FIRST making the playoffs. There's a ton of variables in play if/when the Pats DO make the playoffs. Unless you have some kind of prescient foresight, you do not know how any team will look UNTIL you get in.

While I agree with your overall point, I guess we could just say the objective is the next game, the next series, and the next play. I honestly wonder how Belichick discusses such matters behind closed doors. The guys celebrate when they clinch things, so I assume some discussion beyond game-to-game must occur.

 

[MainePatsFan26]

CP is not a ****ing football player. He is an athlete. You need to manufacture plays for him as nobody is taking him serious because 50% of the time he trips over his own ****ing **** when he gets the ball.

He is plan C. Certainly not plan A which is Michel and also not plan B which would be the short passing game. But go on and whine about something so incredibly ridiculous as CP not getting the ball.

There are so many legitimate reasons to question some of the gameplan but you literally chose the worst one.

CP is a C option. But when A and B net 10 points, we might as well try to get a guy who can run ragged out there and hope he manages to not, as you put it, trip over his endowment.

 

[luuked]

CP is a C option. But when A and B net 10 points, we might as well try to get a guy who can run ragged out there and hope he manages to not, as you put it, trip over his endowment.

Until CP can show a consistent ability to run anything but those straight line, follow-your-FB runs through the A gaps I am not sure I am particularly interested into seeing him in the backfield too often. Especially not taking snaps away from Michel.

Now what I will say is that if the plan was to ease Michel back in on Sunday then they should have just had a package in place for CP to take some of those snaps but the elephant in the room when it comes to all of this is that game situation might have taken that off the table. So who knows.

 

[203Pat]

I want no part of Patterson taking any meaningful carries.

 

[bobbutts]

I'm OK with wishing for more CP touches, but not so much with him lining up as RB when we have a healthy Michel. Michel was looking great before his injury and putting up good numbers. I don't place much blame on him for the poor production against the Titans. It seemed like there were virtually no opportunities for him (or any other back) to make big gains.

 

[Raymond]

Sorry, but when Michel is healthy enough he will push gadget Patterson out of the way. It is not even a slight to CP. It's just the way NFL coaches including Bill B. operate.

 

[Kontradiction]

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[TheRainMaker]

]You seriously would rather have CP take more reps than Michel at RB? The RB who previously pretty much had 3 straight 100 yard games and probably would've had another had he not got injured against the Bears? CP has had some nice runs only when he has great blocking and he can run into a straight line. He's only playing running back out of desperation, not because they think they really have something there. You don't want him to fall into the same trap as Ty Montgomery - jack of all trades, master of none.

And kick returns are a lot different than getting a hand off near the LOS as he has a lot more spacing.

 

[Coolade2]

^^^ oh look the choir singing the same old song.. with Rose colored blinders on..

 

[Kontradiction]

You seriously would rather have CP take more reps than Michel at RB? The RB who previously pretty much had 3 straight 100 yard games and probably would've had another had he not got injured against the Bears? CP has had some nice runs only when he has great blocking and he can run into a straight line. He's only playing running back out of desperation, not because they think they really have something there. You don't want him to fall into the same trap as Ty Montgomery - jack of all trades, master of none.

And kick returns are a lot different than getting a hand off near the LOS as he has a lot more spacing.

I'm reasonably sure he's trolling.

 

[Coolade2]

You seriously would rather have CP take more reps than Michel at RB? The RB who previously pretty much had 3 straight 100 yard games and probably would've had another had he not got injured against the Bears? CP has had some nice runs only when he has great blocking and he can run into a straight line. He's only playing running back out of desperation, not because they think they really have something there. You don't want him to fall into the same trap as Ty Montgomery - jack of all trades, master of none.

And kick returns are a lot different than getting a hand off near the LOS as he has a lot more spacing.

The key word in your post was "previously". The guy is coming off knee injury plus has history of knee injury. You don't think he ran tentative? Timid? 40 yards combined. ? For this game based on CP previous weeks yes... He was better option. Problem is mcD didn't bother to expand CP package like he should have. CP can't sub into regular spread offense since he probly doesn't know the responsibilities, plays etc. That's whites job. Offense should have been split to allow run heavy CP package more reps with white in the spread offense. Michel should have been mixed in enough to get back up to speed but not primary obviously.