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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Not meaning to come off as argumentative this morning, but it’s hard to view the following statline and come off with the idea that Hill was held in check, prior to his 75 yd TD:
6 catches for 70 yards and 2 touchdowns?
That’s hardly keeping anyone in check in any capacity. At any rate, he finished for 7 catches for almost 145 yards and 3 touchdowns anyway, as it’s a 60 minute game. This wasn’t any type of victory versus Tyreek Hill. He absolutely destroyed our secondary. When was the last time a WR put up those kinds of numbers against this team?
Not meaning to come off as argumentative this morning, but it’s hard to view the following statline and come off with the idea that Hill was held in check, prior to his 75 yd TD:
6 catches for 70 yards and 2 touchdowns?
That’s hardly keeping anyone in check in any capacity. At any rate, he finished for 7 catches for almost 145 yards and 3 touchdowns anyway, as it’s a 60 minute game. This wasn’t any type of victory versus Tyreek Hill. He absolutely destroyed our secondary. When was the last time a WR put up those kinds of numbers against this team?
Even though I am a couple of days late, great work PFK....
When Tyreek Hill was heading toward the endzone with 3 minutes left, I was yelling "let him score, let him score" as the last thing I wanted was for KC to hold on to the ball and either win or tie..
There was no doubt in my mind that #12 would engineer a drive to get us in FG goal range at least.. being used to this level of greatness for such a long time makes me view Pats Football differently..
As someone mentioned before chess and checkers.. perhaps even 3D chess.
I was giggling like an idiot on Hill's 75-yard tying TD.
I knew that KC was going to go down and score - I'd rather have the ball back with 3+ left in the game AND timeouts than go into overtime against that offense, where a flip of the coin would determine the winner. Did anyone really think that Brady wouldn't bring the Pats down the field for a field goal try with 3 minutes to play with?
Reverse of that: the Cinci receiver running out on the 2 in the Pitt game yesterday when there was no need at all to stop the clock. All it did was give Pitt time to win.
The league itself, and all of its broadcast partners, are heavily invested in FF. IIRC, in 2017, the now very numerous FF operations took in almost twice as much revenue as the NFL (something around $20Bn, IOW).
Years ago the Pats basically had an offensive game plan that featured different players every week, and it kept defenses off balance. They've gotten away from that IMO with reliable stars like Gronk and Edelman, but let's see if Dorsett is featured this week before writing him off. One thing I have noticed though is Dorsett is noticeably smaller than everyone else out there and he doesn't find the open spaces like Jules.I'm not even sure that there IS any rigid "depth chart" for WRs the way most people think of it. I think that every legit passing target on the roster is merely a tool in the McD/Brady toolbox, and each tool has different characteristics that are applicable in different situations.
There's no real "better" between Hogan and Dorsett, just as there's no "better" between Gordon and Edelman. Hogan has proven more reliable than Dorsett on deeper routes (15 yds+), but then, that's been Hogan's sweet-spot since his first season with the Pats. However, Hogan has also been less reliable overall on intermediate, possession-type routes (+/- 10 yards) than Dorsett.
Which one of them gets the most use in a particular game probably depends on what the opposing defense is weakest at defending, and on how the game unfolds.
Years ago the Pats basically had an offensive game plan that featured different players every week, and it kept defenses off balance. They've gotten away from that IMO with reliable stars like Gronk and Edelman, but let's see if Dorsett is featured this week before writing him off. One thing I have noticed though is Dorsett is noticeably smaller than everyone else out there and he doesn't find the open spaces like Jules.
I understand what you’re saying. I just can’t look past 3 touchdowns and think that it was an encouraging performance, that’s all. If that is considered keeping the player in check then we still have a long way to go.I disagree.
Given that most of the attention went to Kelce (who was kept without a catch in the second half) I think giving up 70 yards and even 2 TDs to Hill would have been a successful evening. The goal is not to shut opponents out but to devise a gameplan that puts you in a position to win the game.
Also I totally disagree with Hill destroying our secondary. I think they played him as well as any team so far this season. One mistake on Hill made it look worse than it actually was. Apart from whatever happened on the 75yd TD he never looked like a game breaker.
This was one of the most encouraging defensive performances I have seen in a longer time because this Chiefs offense might have been the best unit they have faced since the Falcons in the SB.
He may not have been gouging the defense all game long, but he scored 3 touchdowns. I don’t care what happened to give them the ball on those drives. They allowed a big time player to see the end zone on three separate occasions. That shouldn’t be acceptable unless we’ve really lowered the bar.One of Hill's other two TDs was a 14-yarder on KCY's 4th play after Brady fumbled at the NE-29.
The other was a 3-yarder on the 3rd play after the Pats' ST allowed a 97-yd KR.
It's not as if Hill was gouging the defense all game long.
He may not have been gouging the defense all game long, but he scored 3 touchdowns. I don’t care what happened to give them the ball on those drives. They allowed a big time player to see the end zone on three separate occasions. That shouldn’t be acceptable unless we’ve really lowered the bar.
Taking away the 14 + 3 would mean that Hill would’ve had 4 catches for 53 yards, so I get what you’re saying, but he still would’ve had 4/53/2, and it’s difficult (for me) to praise them when you’re allowing someone to score twice, that’s all.It doesn't matter much that those two short TD passes (14 yds and 3 yds) went to Hill. There wasn't anything particularly exceptional about Hill's play on those. In those defense-in-a-hole situations, they could just as easily have gone to Ware and/or Harris, instead. Hill would then have caught only 4/10 for 30 yards, plus the one 75-yard TD. We might, then, be praising the defense for how well they did with Hill, except for the one busted coverage.
It’s not the integer that they are trying to increase it’s the number of scoring plays.The funny thing is that changing the rules for more points doesn't make FF or the games themselves any more competitive, just makes the scores higher. They could keep the rules the same as before and just raise the amount of points: 14 for a TD, 6 for a FG, etc.
Or go full Space Invaders and make a TD 7,000 pts, a field goal 3,000 points, etc., so we can have games that are like 43,000 - 40,000.
The end zone limited his yardageOne of Hill's other two TDs was a 14-yarder on KCY's 4th play after Brady fumbled at the NE-29.
The other was a 3-yarder on the 3rd play after the Pats' ST allowed a 97-yd KR.
It's not as if Hill was gouging the defense all game long.
too much is being made of Dorsett's lack of playing time in this game. Thus far this season the has played a decent role and far exceeded most people's expectations. At this point his lack of playing time is more a matter of expectations than anything he's done. I suspect that he will have his moments from time to time, much like Amendola's last couple of seasons. Hopefully he'll be just as clutch as DA.Years ago the Pats basically had an offensive game plan that featured different players every week, and it kept defenses off balance. They've gotten away from that IMO with reliable stars like Gronk and Edelman, but let's see if Dorsett is featured this week before writing him off. One thing I have noticed though is Dorsett is noticeably smaller than everyone else out there and he doesn't find the open spaces like Jules.
well Tune, the ratings would seem to be making the case that "fans" like all the offense. But while I love to see a well executed drive, I miss the physicality the defense used to have the ability to use, especially on the LOS.@patfanken
Ken, are you at all dismayed by how radically the NFL game has changed in favor of offense? I find the imbalance a real cause for concern going forward unless the league does something about it, which I have little confidence in.
In metered market results, last night’s SNF snagged a big league 14.6/25.
Easily taking the top primetime prize for the night, the hard fought Pats v. Chiefs match-up was up 18% in the early metrics from the Houston Texans win over the Dallas Cowboys last week. For the fifth week in a row, SNF was also up double digits from the 2017/2018 season with a very impressive 34% leap over the New York Giants’ 23-10 crushing over the Denver Broncos on October 15, 2017.