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I don't get the comparison. Hogan is a starting WR and your #1 option opening day, Gilmore is your shutdown corner, while Mason is an OL. Dwayne Allen is a backup TE who makes more than 2 out of the three.
What is funny is that you know the Pats think the cap hit is not an issue. How does anyone know what the Pats are thinking? Have you been around this team for more than ten minutes?
Somehow the fact that they can cut bait with no guarantees means to you that they are more likely to keep Allen. That flexibility may be what BB and Caserio might like. Nice spin.
The backup TE spots have to be more competitive than people think.
Isn't the team mantra versatility? Does Dwayne Allen do anything, but block? Can he play special teams? For many suggesting his cap hit might lead the team in another direction is unthinkable. One poster listed the comment as "funny."
Jacob Hollister has four career catches for 42 yards and I haven't seen one roster that does not have him listed. Is his spot so secure?
This should be a thread, but instead the title should be, "Tight End position - who other than Gronk is safe?"
Posters are quick to cut Eric Rowe or Jason McCourty, and keep one of their binky CBs. I thought Ryan Izzo looked better than all undrafted CBs in the actual game. And I think the current candidates at backup TE position are thinner than backup CB.
Why not Ryan Izzo?
If Izzo can run-block and pass-block, say, 75% as well as Allen, and catch something like 16 of 24 targets for 120-140 yds, Allen could be trade bait.
No. Why does that matter? We are talking about the blocking TE2
And that would be ridiculous.Then you recognize that there's a difference between Gronk and Allen's blocking ability.
Some would demonstrate that difference by using percentages.
And that would be ridiculous.
How can you demonstrate a difference mathematically when there is no way to quantify the difference?
The context was trying to describe the difference between 2 players ability mathematically. That is wrong.Not ridiculous if you understand the context in which it was meant.
How would describe the difference between Gronk and Allen's blocking ability?
The context was trying to describe the difference between 2 players ability mathematically. That is wrong.
Gronk may be the best blocking TE in the NFL. He is ridiculously strong and agile and can block bigger DL as well as quicker edge players and even dbs.
Allen is a very good blocker but doesn’t have gronks physical gifts so he needs to be better with technique and will struggle more against higher end strength or quickness guys.
Jacob Hollister has four career catches for 42 yards and I haven't seen one roster that does not have him listed. Is his spot so secure?
That’s not what I said is it.So would you accept a #2 TE with a lesser blocking ability but a greater catching ability than Allen ?
That’s not what I said is it.
I said blocking TE is a real position in our offense and considering Hollister will also be game day active because he is a core special teamer.
I’m not sure what you are driving at, how this has anything to do with Izzo, or your argument that blocking ability can be expressed mathematically. Seems like you are just treading water here.
I answered it.I didn't say you said it. It was a question.
Would you accept a #2 TE with lesser blocking ability but greater catching ability than Allen?
I answered it.
No. Allen is a better option. Why do you insist on implying I agree with something I do not?So would you accept Izzo and Hollister in the same scenario?
YesI'm not. Just asking you a question and from your answers I gather you would agree with the following.
Izzo < Allen < Gronk.
You are just being stupid now.Allen + Hollister View attachment 20995 Gronk.
YesAllen + Hollister > Izzo + Hollister
Yes
You are just being stupid now.
Yes