New England Patriots Mock Draft 2.0, Post Trade Edition

[Joker]

O line at 23...if BB stays there

 

[Ochmed Jones]

Does bb go off his meds and reach for low rated defensive backs (whose greatest contribution might be special teams) in the second round?

Cyrus Jones
Richards
Tavon Wilson

Somebody in that war room has to grow a pair and keep bb lubed up during the second round of this draft!!!

 

[mgteich]

Does bb go off his meds and reach for low rated defensive backs (whose greatest contribution might be special teams) in the second round?

Cyrus Jones
Richards
Tavon Wilson

Somebody in that war room has to grow a pair and keep bb lubed up during the second round of this draft!!!

I believe that Tavon was still an NFL starter last year. So, I understand that we believe the Belichick reached. However, a player who is a starter 6 years later is not a horrible 2nd round pick.

 

[mgteich]

So, if Garcia was a reasonable pick last year, and isn't expected to be ready, then shouldn't we be drafting another "garcia-like" prospect this year?

Of course, the alternative is to trade for a LT. Of course that could be an expensive use of resources (draft pick and cap money).

Of course if they deem Garcia isn't going to be ready to take over in 2019 then an OT pick in the first 5 is useful. AGAIN though, I am concerned that this OL class is bad enough that to pick on in the first 2 rounds would be like taking another shot at a "garcia-like" prospect, and just reaching for guys in the first and 2nd rounds, who would be 3rd and 4th round picks in good OL years

 

[luuked]

So, if Garcia was a reasonable pick last year, and isn't expected to be ready, then shouldn't we be drafting another "garcia-like" prospect this year?

Of course, the alternative is to trade for a LT. Of course that could be an expensive use of resources (draft pick and cap money).

The way I read the situation, Waddle was signed as starter this year and to buy time to see what Garcia ends up being after losing his rookie year.

Of course if value presents itself no position is off the table during the draft but I would be surprised if the team picks a OT in the first two rounds.

 

[mgteich]

The way I read the situation, Waddle was signed as starter this year and to buy time to see what Garcia ends up being after losing his rookie year.

Of course if value presents itself no position is off the table during the draft but I would be surprised if the team picks a OT in the first two rounds.

So, if Garcia doesn't pan out, we'll need to draft a starting LT next year?

In that case, I would trade at least on of my top picks into 2019.

 

[luuked]

So, if Garcia doesn't pan out, we'll need to draft a starting LT next year?

In that case, I would trade at least on of my top picks into 2019.

My feeling (which usually is totally wrong in terms of draft) is that the OL prospects this year will get lower draft value scores than many other potentially available players especially with 4 picks in the first 2 rounds.

That being said I also expect them to move #31 in exchange for more picks to close the gigantic gap in the middle of our draft. So who knows really..

 

[50-yard-line]

Can't do it - I have a mental block. Every time I draft, I wind up with both Evans and Vander Esch...

 

[mgteich]

My feeling (which usually is totally wrong in terms of draft) is that the OL prospects this year will get lower draft value scores than many other potentially available players especially with 4 picks in the first 2 rounds.

That being said I also expect them to move #31 in exchange for more picks to close the gigantic gap in the middle of our draft. So who knows really..

moving down in the second could easily net us a 4th and 5th round pick.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

Can't do it - I have a mental block. Every time I draft, I wind up with both Evans and Vander Esch...

That would be a killer first round!

 

[mgteich]

I am REALLY against trading up more than marginally (just a few slots like we did with Hightower and Jones) in this draft. But I'd rather not do even that. We have 4 picks in the top 64. This is a rare opportunity to find 3 or 4 future starters from these picks. We need to start to develop a new core group I am unwilling to give up ANY of them to move up significantly for just one guy.

Of course if they deem Garcia isn't going to be ready to take over in 2019 then an OT pick in the first 5 is useful. AGAIN though, I am concerned that this OL class is bad enough that to pick on in the first 2 rounds would be like taking another shot at a "garcia-like" prospect, and just reaching for guys in the first and 2nd rounds, who would be 3rd and 4th round picks in good OL years

My guess is that Belichick doesn't expect 23, 31, 43 and 63 will yield 3-4 starters. So, sure, if I thought that we would get 3-4 starters out of the 3rd tier of players, then obviously it's not right to move.

 

[The Boomer]

In terms of positions drafted, it seems fairly close. However ...

Gesicki apparently can't block much at all, which would seem to take him off the Pats big board completely. Personally, I haven't seen a TE prospect in this draft who's projected to be selected in the first two rounds, and who presents anywhere near as much potential value as the prospects at other positions who are likely to be available in that range.

This appears to be a rare draft that offers some real depth at safety, and it seems that as many as three good ones may be available between picks #23 and #63. It also seems to me that the Pats aren't likely to pass on an opportunity to upgrade from Richards and get a good developmental safety-in-training prospect to eventually take the reins from the aging McCourty or Chung.

I like Hubbard for the Pats, but it seems to me that there may be other ILB/MLB prospects available in the 2nd who are of roughly equal quality to Evans. Meanwhile, OT and QB may (or may not) be higher priorities to consider for the #23.

In the third or fourth round, Quinn Blanding could be as good as any of the higher safety choices in this draft:

Quin Blanding | Virginia, FS : 2018 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

 

[supafly]

O line at 23...if BB stays there

I agree—although it could be LB, too.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

O line at 23...if BB stays there

OL quality in this draft is not good. There is no one at 23 i’d want.

 

[maineman209]

Harold is injury prone.

He is?

 

[Joker]

you wouldn't want McGlinchey at 23?

 

[supafly]

OL quality in this draft is not good. There is no one at 23 i’d want.

Opinions will often spread like wildfire around here, and I continue to see this one parroted, every single day. While the OT depth of the draft doesn’t appear to be very good (according to the so-called experts), it’s still possible that Belichick has his eyes on a couple/few that he’d be willing to roll the dice on, especially if that comes in the first 43 picks (by our third selection).

 

[supafly]

you wouldn't want McGlinchey at 23?

If he’s anywhere near that range, I think there’s a chance that they’d move up and take him.

Gil Brandt mentioned yesterday how he thinks that he’ll be selected in the top 10, so we’ll have to see.

 

[maineman209]

While it's certainly understandable that the Pats' 2018 starting LT situation is drawing almost exclusive OL focus in this draft, it seems to me that, taking the 2019 OL situation into consideration, OL prospects in general may be higher on the Pats' current grocery list than we think. Regardless of Garcia's prognosis, the Pats may be consider selecting OT and OG prospects in this draft.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Opinions will often spread like wildfire around here, and I continue to see this one parroted, every single day. While the OT depth of the draft doesn’t appear to be very good (according to the so-called experts), it’s still possible that Belichick has his eyes on a couple/few that he’d be willing to roll the dice on, especially if that comes in the first 43 picks (by our third selection).

bill could very well select one (and i expect him to) in the first two rounds, but as i said i don’t see it at 23.